Party Wall Help
Discussion
We are planning on building an extension to the rear of our property. It's only three metres deep so permitted development. We will, however, be building up to the fence between our property and our neighbour. The neighbour in question is attached to our property - so we share the main internal wall.
Our builder has announced he'd potentially like to start before Christmas and I've just realised we haven't done anything about a Party Wall agreement. Oops.
The neighbour is happy for us to start work and has said she's happy to sign an agreement. She also says a start date asap is ok.
Can anyone advise which of the standard letter(s) available online would be best / is needed.
It looks to me like I need to combine the 'New Wall Wholly on Own Land' with potentially the 'Party Structure' notice. We are not having deep foundations so I don't think the 3 / 6 metre one applies. These are letters on the .Gov website.
Does that sound right? Thanks in advance.
Our builder has announced he'd potentially like to start before Christmas and I've just realised we haven't done anything about a Party Wall agreement. Oops.
The neighbour is happy for us to start work and has said she's happy to sign an agreement. She also says a start date asap is ok.
Can anyone advise which of the standard letter(s) available online would be best / is needed.
It looks to me like I need to combine the 'New Wall Wholly on Own Land' with potentially the 'Party Structure' notice. We are not having deep foundations so I don't think the 3 / 6 metre one applies. These are letters on the .Gov website.
Does that sound right? Thanks in advance.
Alucidnation said:
You probably should be asking your builder/architect or solicitor, not internet randoms.
On what basis do you think it's helpful to type such a reply? Will you be going through every post on Pistonheads and suggesting people speak to their mechanic, GP, mobile provider, watch dealer, home cinema installer, plumber, electrician etc, rather than "randoms" on the internet.
One of the ideas of forums is to ask for help / advice and to provide the same. It's one of the reasons they exist.
Hopefully the next time you ask for advice / an opinion you'll get responses more helpful than the one you've just provided.
Dolf Stoppard said:
Alucidnation said:
You probably should be asking your builder/architect or solicitor, not internet randoms.
On what basis do you think it's helpful to type such a reply? Will you be going through every post on Pistonheads and suggesting people speak to their mechanic, GP, mobile provider, watch dealer, home cinema installer, plumber, electrician etc, rather than "randoms" on the internet?
One of the ideas of forums is to ask for help / advice and to provide the same. It's one of the reasons they exist.
Hopefully the next time you ask for advice / an opinion you'll get responses more helpful than the one you've just provided.
[quote=Pheo]I used this one:
https://hoa.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/part...
That’s really helpful - Thank you.
Any other advice appreciated.
https://hoa.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/part...
That’s really helpful - Thank you.
Any other advice appreciated.
Alucidnation said:
You probably should be asking your builder/architect or solicitor, not internet randoms.
Hard to argue with this to be honest. Doing it on the cheap is great until you get sued and you find that what you drafted isn't quite what you intended to say. However, your drafting skills may be sufficient, who knows?rlw said:
Alucidnation said:
You probably should be asking your builder/architect or solicitor, not internet randoms.
Hard to argue with this to be honest. Doing it on the cheap is great until you get sued and you find that what you drafted isn't quite what you intended to say. However, your drafting skills may be sufficient, who knows?The Government clearly thinks it's ok for people to draft their own Party Wall docs - hence templates being available on the .gov website.
As before though, I hope the next time you ask for advice, on say a loft conversion, the responses you receive are more constructive than the ones you give!
The issue is normally if the neighbour dissents the notice then you have to pay two sets of fees. Sounds like you have a good relationship so I’d suggest the “agreed” surveyor route. If you do it all yourself to save what might only be £500 or so it might hurt either owner when you come to sell and conveyancers crawl all over it.
The important bit is making sure there is a schedule of condition and agreed drawings and specifications of the foundation works.
It sounds like the best option would be to extend the party wall rather than a boundary as this would allow your neighbour to extend at a later date and give you both more area. As I understand it the award can be worded such that you either share some costs now or you pay it all and then when they extend in the future they pay a contribution - essentially they would only need to pay 2/3 of foundation and external wall costs to extend.
The important bit is making sure there is a schedule of condition and agreed drawings and specifications of the foundation works.
It sounds like the best option would be to extend the party wall rather than a boundary as this would allow your neighbour to extend at a later date and give you both more area. As I understand it the award can be worded such that you either share some costs now or you pay it all and then when they extend in the future they pay a contribution - essentially they would only need to pay 2/3 of foundation and external wall costs to extend.
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