45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

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6th Gear

3,306 posts

133 months

Thursday 10th January
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Halb

46,686 posts

122 months

Thursday 10th January
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Just watching the bruhaha over the wall on c4news, how come this wasn't put through a year ago when the GoP held congress and potus?

Challo

4,565 posts

94 months

Thursday 10th January
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Halb said:
Just watching the bruhaha over the wall on c4news, how come this wasn't put through a year ago when the GoP held congress and potus?
Because none of the republicans wanted it either.

V6 Pushfit

10,194 posts

49 months

Thursday 10th January
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Halb said:
Just watching the bruhaha over the wall on c4news, how come this wasn't put through a year ago when the GoP held congress and potus?
Trump had let it slip until Fox News told him he should be getting on with it. That why it’s been referred to as Presidency By Fox

RobDickinson

25,238 posts

193 months

Thursday 10th January
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Challo said:
Halb said:
Just watching the bruhaha over the wall on c4news, how come this wasn't put through a year ago when the GoP held congress and potus?
Because none of the republicans wanted it either.
Basically. Neither party wants to spend billions on a useless wall, GOP as usual always talk abut supporting trump but wont vote for it.

Trump , who knows more about politics than anyone, is surprised when the opposition oppose him.

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Politically Trump got elected on a mandate of building the wall.
Democrats just won a landslide victory in the house on a mandate for not building the wall.

Expect this to drag on until Trump is impeached.
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p1stonhead

17,970 posts

106 months

Thursday 10th January
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RobDickinson said:
Challo said:
Halb said:
Just watching the bruhaha over the wall on c4news, how come this wasn't put through a year ago when the GoP held congress and potus?
Because none of the republicans wanted it either.
Basically. Neither party wants to spend billions on a useless wall, GOP as usual always talk abut supporting trump but wont vote for it.

Trump , who knows more about politics than anyone, is surprised when the opposition oppose him.

Edit -

Politically Trump got elected on a mandate of building the wall.
Democrats just won a landslide victory in the house on a mandate for not building the wall.

Expect this to drag on until Trump is impeached.
Honestly though, how fking long can this go on? Even ignoring workers not getting paid, arent a load of (presumably very profitable) things closed because of it? I bet it’s not far off £5b already in lost income/tourism.

RobDickinson

25,238 posts

193 months

Thursday 10th January
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p1stonhead said:
Honestly though, how fking long can this go on? Even ignoring workers not getting paid, arent a load of (presumably very profitable) things closed because of it? I bet it’s not far off £5b already in lost income/tourism.
"During the 2013 shutdown, Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown had "to date taken $24 billion out of the economy", and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth".[6]"


That was 16 days.

p1stonhead

17,970 posts

106 months

Thursday 10th January
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RobDickinson said:
p1stonhead said:
Honestly though, how fking long can this go on? Even ignoring workers not getting paid, arent a load of (presumably very profitable) things closed because of it? I bet it’s not far off £5b already in lost income/tourism.
"During the 2013 shutdown, Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown had "to date taken $24 billion out of the economy", and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth".[6]"


That was 16 days.
‘BIGGEST SHUTDOWN EVER!’

Max_Torque

13,353 posts

156 months

Thursday 10th January
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p1stonhead said:
Honestly though, how fking long can this go on? Even ignoring workers not getting paid, arent a load of (presumably very profitable) things closed because of it? I bet it’s not far off £5b already in lost income/tourism.
It will go on until Trump personally is personally impacted. He's an egotistical narcisist, he couldn't care less about anyone but himself. Added to which, i'll bet this makes him feel even more "powerful" i mean, he is single handed holding the entire country to ransom!

What a powerful man, the most powerful man ever, who knows more about power than any one else ever. Literally no one knows more about power than he does.........

Ructions

3,267 posts

60 months

Thursday 10th January
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Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s former personal lawyer who implicated him in a scheme to pay hush money to two women claiming to have had affairs with him, has agreed to testify before the House Oversight Committee next month and give “a full and credible account” of his work for Mr. Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/politics/mic...

Byker28i

16,428 posts

156 months

Friday 11th January
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RobDickinson said:
Challo said:
Halb said:
Just watching the bruhaha over the wall on c4news, how come this wasn't put through a year ago when the GoP held congress and potus?
Because none of the republicans wanted it either.
Basically. Neither party wants to spend billions on a useless wall, GOP as usual always talk abut supporting trump but wont vote for it.

Trump , who knows more about politics than anyone, is surprised when the opposition oppose him.

Edit -

Politically Trump got elected on a mandate of building the wall.
Democrats just won a landslide victory in the house on a mandate for not building the wall.

Expect this to drag on until Trump is impeached.
There's no reason for Mitch McConnell or the GOP to refuse to fund the Government, they signed a bill for this just before Christmas

Actually there's another way around this.
Trump declares emergency powers to build the wall from the military budget
That gets challenged and goes to court which will take years, in the meantime an injunction means the government can be funded

Trump seems to be fighting for his wall....

I think thats why he has possibly been discussing this because someones told him this is his way out, because he needs one having backed himself into a corner. I think within his team though there's a real issue with some saying do it and some strongly advising against it, hence his indecision.

Basically, he has no experience or credentials to be running a government and this is another example of how he struggles to understand any of the complexities of his actions. He's no longer in charge of his own company where others cover up his mistakes (or he walks away from a bankrupcy)

Gameface

7,587 posts

16 months

Friday 11th January
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He's so used to people backing down that he doesn't know what to do when they don't.

Suing people who can't afford a long court battle and sycophantic employees have made him believe he has the Midas touch.

He's too simple to understand that being president is not the same as being boss of your own company.

He only bragged about taking responsibility for the shutdown on national television because he thought the Democrats would back down immediately and it would be seen as big win for him.

Oops...



Byker28i

16,428 posts

156 months

Friday 11th January
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NY times is reporting that Mueller is looking into prominent Ukrainians went to Trump's inauguration with ideas about lifting sanctions on Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/politics/ukr...

I mean, they put enough money into trumps inauguration fund, they'd have wanted something in return

Byker28i

16,428 posts

156 months

Friday 11th January
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Nearly every lawmaker who represents a district or state along the U.S.-Mexico border — including two Republicans — either opposes outright or more quietly declines to support President Donald Trump’s $5.7 billion request for a border wall, according to a survey conducted by POLITICO.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/10/border-l...

Byker28i

16,428 posts

156 months

Friday 11th January
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Gameface said:
He's so used to people backing down that he doesn't know what to do when they don't.

Suing people who can't afford a long court battle and sycophantic employees have made him believe he has the Midas touch.

He's too simple to understand that being president is not the same as being boss of your own company.

He only bragged about taking responsibility for the shutdown on national television because he thought the Democrats would back down immediately and it would be seen as big win for him.

Oops...
He's also used to taking money from other pots that he's not supposed to spend, trump organisation, trump foundation, trump inauguration, that he's trying to do the same to fund his fence.

President Donald Trump has been briefed on a plan that would use the Army Corps of Engineers and a portion of $13.9 billion of Army Corps funding to build 315 miles of barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border, according to three U.S. officials familiar with the briefing.

The money was set aside to fund projects all over the country including storm-damaged areas of Puerto Rico through fiscal year 2020, but the checks have not been written yet and, under an emergency declaration, the president could take the money from these civil works projects and use it to build the border wall, said officials familiar with the briefing and two congressional sources.

The plan could be implemented if Trump declares a national emergency in order to build the wall and would use more money and build more miles than the administration has requested from Congress. The president had requested $5.7 billion for a wall stretching 234 miles.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump...

I do wish the media would now call it a fence rather than a wall. That would infuriate him



Also yesterday CBP officers showed Trump blown-up photos today of tunnels that were dug to get guns and drugs across the border.
Neither border agents nor Trump explained how a border wall would help stop the flow of drugs through tunnels and legal ports of entry.
http://time.com/5499188/president-trump-went-to-a-...

Lazermilk

1,687 posts

20 months

Friday 11th January
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It's an awful lot of money to be wasting on a metal fence when $100 or so will get you through it with something like this...



rolleyes

Lord.Vader

1,823 posts

78 months

Friday 11th January
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Is there an end date for the Mueller investigation or a date by which he will file his report? Or is it a case of how deep does the rabbit hole go and he is funded / resourced until he declares it over?

Byker28i

16,428 posts

156 months

Friday 11th January
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Lord.Vader said:
Is there an end date for the Mueller investigation or a date by which he will file his report? Or is it a case of how deep does the rabbit hole go and he is funded / resourced until he declares it over?
There's just been a 6 month extension on the grand jury time, plus Rosenstein has said he'll stay until the report is produced, but also he'll go when Barr is confirmed as Barr will replace him with his choice of deputy.

As Barr's confirmation starts next week.......

Edit: the good news is with trumps fixation on the wall, he's stopped his obstruction of justice, giving Mueller a chance to catchup. It's hard to finish something if the criminal keeps committing crimes biggrin

Byker28i

16,428 posts

156 months

Friday 11th January
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Hannity tonight, during Trump interview: “We lose 300 Americans a week, 90% of the heroin comes into the country. In the last two weeks we lost officer Singh in California.”

Trump tweeted it as:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

We lose 300 Americans a week, 90% of which comes through the Southern Border. These numbers will be DRASTICALLY REDUCED if we have a Wall!

6:42 PM - 10 Jan 2019

Byker28i

16,428 posts

156 months

Friday 11th January
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This is sad news. It's being reported as:
A not-small number of people in rural eastern California love to ride their jacked-up vehicles around the desert & seethe with anger at public lands that don't let them. This is their revenge against what they see as a park service that denies them their fun.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/joshua-tree-national-par...