45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

[arfursleep]

Byker28i said:

so it looks like we're heading for trump declaring a national emergency so he can build his bit of his fence.

The White House is preparing a draft proclamation for President Donald Trump to declare a national emergency along the southern border and has identified more than $7 billion in potential funds for his signature border wall should he go that route.

This presumably doesn't get debated or voted on by Congress or Senate, just an EO from the WH and the money gets split out to his cronies, I mean the chosen contractors who worked through a double blind tendering process...

I assume the funding will be diverted from social welfare programmes and Dem sponsored causes/projects because his administration is that petty and vindictive.

[Halb]

Countdown said:

It would be political suicide for any member of the GOP to do that.
Firstly they would be up against Hardcore Trumpettes (and that’s a significant number of the GOP membership). Then there are those who genuinely agree with Trump’s business policies. They would also be up against those who don’t like Trump but want a Republican in power at all costs. That leaves only those GOP members who vote based on principles/behaviours/values.. There aren’t that many of those around IMHO.

Maybe. Depends on many variable. We've seen a slow slew of high profile GoP sorts turn off/away in the past two years, major among them Paul Ryan. If Trump can alienate ore big hitters and moderates, someone like Kaich will run. He's already mooting it publicly, and he is popular and as Maher calls it, 'Republican classic.' He says he'll only run to win though, so he needs Trump to make a few more stinky moves to slow slide that rule along the line.

ralphrj said:

The way the US system works both the major parties hold their own elections (called Primaries) to select their candidate for Presidential election.
When the party already has a candidate in the White House then it is usually nothing more than a token series of elections.
However, there is nothing to stop another candidate making a proper challenge to the current President, especially when that President is highly unpopular.
Gerald Ford succeeded Richard Nixon as President in 1974 but was challenged for the 1976 Republican nomination by Ronald Reagan. Ford won narrowly but then lost the election to Jimmy Carter.
Lyndon B. Johnson succeeded John F. Kennedy after his assassination in 1963 and won the election in 1964 but was extremely unpopular by 1968, He came 4th in the New Hampshire Primary with only 5% of the votes. He withdrew from the race for the Democratic nomination as a result.

Pat Buchanan also did it in 1992. The proto-Trump.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/when-presidents-get-p...

[shakotan]

minimoog said:

Nealio said:

I was starting to think he was just going to use PL 85-804 to build the wall. I guess the donors don't like that idea though.

Declaring a fake national emergency and using powers intended for the defence of the nation to pander to his base would be truly pathetic, and therefore very Trump. Interested to see how that would pan out, should he go ahead with it, given the dangerous precedent it would set.

It's already been stated several times, that if Trump tries the 'National Emergency' route it'll get blocked in the Courts.

[minimoog]

Nealio said:

He doesn't need to declare a national emergency to use it for the same reason Obama didn't need to do so when he used it in 2014 to indemnify USAID ebola workers in Africa. So the precedent has already been set.

Obama's memorandum authorising use of Public Law 85-804 re. ebola said:

The USAID is exercising functions in connection with the national defense in the course of complying with its humanitarian mandate, and there is a relevant state of national emergency that authorizes use of Public Law 85-804. I deem that the authorization provided in this memorandum and actions taken pursuant to that authorization would facilitate the national defense.

[minimoog]

shakotan said:

It's already been stated several times, that if Trump tries the 'National Emergency' route it'll get blocked in the Courts.

You say that like it would stop him.

[p1stonhead]

fatbutt said:

There have been 20 mass shootings since 1st Jan '19. Not even considered news worthy at most outlets.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-sh...

56 people have been shot by police.

So lets call a national emergency to raise money to build a pointless wall.

My biggest issue with all of the noise Trump generates is that it dominates the news cycle. There are many issues coming to a head in the US, many of which Trump is making worse, however the issues themselves are not getting reported; just Trump.

To be fair the 'national emergency' thing is a bit of a red herring. They arent that extreme that is made out.

There are currently 31 active ones going back decades

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/trump-...

[Seventy]

CypSIdders said:

.....the USS Trump.....

That’ll be his next project.

[Halb]

Trumpy McTrumpants?

[sugerbear]

Roger Stone. BOOM.

[anonymous-user]

sugerbear said:

Roger Stone. BOOM.

It's genuinely astonishing stuff

[_dobbo_]

Never have we been more in need of Coyft to explain to us why this is all fine and nothing at all important.

[Seventy]

NO COLLUSION!!

[shakotan]

Link regarding Rogers Stone's arrest.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/25/ro...

How long before Trump starts tweeting "Roger who?" "Slimy Stone" "I always said there was something wrong with him"

[so called]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Is that you Donald?

[captain_cynic]

If Trump had any brains, he'd resign and let Pence take over, that way whatever Mueller has on him doesn't matter as Pence can simply pardon him al a Ford and Nixon.

But I don't think Trump has any brains.

I highly doubt we'll see him win in 2020, especially after the dismal results of the mid terms. Republicans are usually pretty good at holding onto the house and senate, it wasn't until 2006 where GWB lost the house and we saw what happened in 2008. All the Democrats need to do is put up someone like John Delaney or even Richard Ojeda (long serving army man) and they'll practically be a shoo-in.

And I don't think anyone in the Democratic party would pardon Trump.

Americans are upset with the Trump government, they were promised a government that would listen the people, they got a government that ignored the people. Sure there are some hard core trumpettes out there, but nowhere near enough to win an election.

[uknick]

If this has been answered apologies; prior to Trump has any president been denied access to the House Chamber to give the State Of The Nation speech?

[anonymous-user]

sugerbear said:

Roger Stone. BOOM.

If he flops, would that be a case of Mueller leaving no Stone unturned?

[Seventy]

Reagan’s was postponed for a week due the shuttle explosion but this is the first time a president has been ‘disinvited ‘.

[DMN]

"Muellers fake witch hunt celebrates catching 48th actual witch".

[p1stonhead]

Another classic

https://twitter.com/greatscott1991/status/10887654...