Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France
Discussion
citizensm1th said:
you may want to think about the meaning of the phrase "stun grenade"
it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
Where did I say it was designed to kill, where did I defend anyone, on either side?it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
Do I need to point out you my previous post where I explicitly disagreed with the use of
violence except in the form of self defence?
It's the use of weapons such as these that I object to.
Imo, it's you that is doing the dancing by trying to decipher my words into your meanings.
Do you remember "posters like me" , which are what btw, defending the looters in London
and elsewhere? As for defending anti Semitic views, jog on smithy , you dry lunch.
Helicopter123 said:
citizensm1th said:
you may want to think about the meaning of the phrase "stun grenade"
it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
Good Post.it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
k me it really was.......................B'stard Child said:
Helicopter123 said:
citizensm1th said:
you may want to think about the meaning of the phrase "stun grenade"
it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
Good Post.it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
k me it really was.......................People react to being gassed by returning the canisters to those who threw them who in turn try to educate them by firing explosive versions?
Sounds like state backed deliberate attack to me. Whatever happened to Liberté, égalité, fraternité?
Bill said:
Oh look, a news blackout: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
Thanks for proving my point perfectly.There was no crowd control by our Police during the London riots. Not at least near me in Clapham Junction.
The police did absolutely nothing while the local cultural enrichment smashed up St John’s Road and looted Debenhams and set fire to the party shop.
They stood and watched on from Lavender Hill doing SFA.
The police did absolutely nothing while the local cultural enrichment smashed up St John’s Road and looted Debenhams and set fire to the party shop.
They stood and watched on from Lavender Hill doing SFA.
Ratski83 said:
There was no crowd control by our Police during the London riots. Not at least near me in Clapham Junction.
The police did absolutely nothing while the local cultural enrichment smashed up St John’s Road and looted Debenhams and set fire to the party shop.
They stood and watched on from Lavender Hill doing SFA.
I wasn't there but remember seeing the images.The police did absolutely nothing while the local cultural enrichment smashed up St John’s Road and looted Debenhams and set fire to the party shop.
They stood and watched on from Lavender Hill doing SFA.
That initial inaction was under orders from senior police i.e. from politicians in blue, was it not?
Doing SFA as per too much of the MSM on yellow vest protests.
citizensm1th said:
wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLI-F4_Grenade
some go bang like the french use, some go pop and spread cs pellets to disperse the gas and old style ones stay intact and just burn(these ones are the ones you can throw back)
never use the word "ever" it can so easily make you look a tit
First line:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLI-F4_Grenade
some go bang like the french use, some go pop and spread cs pellets to disperse the gas and old style ones stay intact and just burn(these ones are the ones you can throw back)
never use the word "ever" it can so easily make you look a tit
"The GLI-F4 instant tear gas grenade (or SAE 810 instant tear gas grenade) is a tear gas and sound-only stun grenade containing 25 grams of TNT."
Second line is interesting if true:
"It is used in France since 2011. France is the only European country using these for law enforcement. It can cause mutilation."
It's a stun grenade.
I imagine most people's expectations of a CS canister is the type used everywhere else in the world. According to Wiki France is the only country in the world to use such a device.
But anyway, dude deserved to lose a hand because he decided to protest/riot depending on your political persuasion.
Digga said:
It's fair to say that a force sufficient to stun is also a force sufficient to cause either serious, or permanent injury.
That's not OK over here when a bunch of revolting students and momentum activists are on the march It's evidently OK if the protesters anywhere have a whole world of bien pensant left-liberals railing against their politically incorrect cause.
toppstuff said:
Surprised there are apologists for the rioters on here.
Lock them all up in my opinion.
Innocent people have lost property, some have even died because of these rioters.
It's cultural. Would you lock up all Brits getting pissed up on a Friday night because a few have fights and get killed?Lock them all up in my opinion.
Innocent people have lost property, some have even died because of these rioters.
John145 said:
toppstuff said:
Surprised there are apologists for the rioters on here.
Lock them all up in my opinion.
Innocent people have lost property, some have even died because of these rioters.
It's cultural. Would you lock up all Brits getting pissed up on a Friday night because a few have fights and get killed?Lock them all up in my opinion.
Innocent people have lost property, some have even died because of these rioters.
toppstuff said:
John145 said:
toppstuff said:
Surprised there are apologists for the rioters on here.
Lock them all up in my opinion.
Innocent people have lost property, some have even died because of these rioters.
It's cultural. Would you lock up all Brits getting pissed up on a Friday night because a few have fights and get killed?Lock them all up in my opinion.
Innocent people have lost property, some have even died because of these rioters.
turbobloke said:
Digga said:
It's fair to say that a force sufficient to stun is also a force sufficient to cause either serious, or permanent injury.
That's not OK over here when a bunch of revolting students and momentum activists are on the march It's evidently OK if the protesters anywhere have a whole world of bien pensant left-liberals railing against their politically incorrect cause.
Digga said:
turbobloke said:
Digga said:
It's fair to say that a force sufficient to stun is also a force sufficient to cause either serious, or permanent injury.
That's not OK over here when a bunch of revolting students and momentum activists are on the march It's evidently OK if the protesters anywhere have a whole world of bien pensant left-liberals railing against their politically incorrect cause.
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