Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

[anonymous-user]

Dindoit said:

Earthdweller said:

As week 17 of the protests loom Grenoble in Eastern France has burned for the last four nights following the deaths of two teenagers riding a stolen scooter into the side of a bus whilst being pursued by the Police

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1096667/franc...

How is this related to the yellow vests?

Bit like turbobloke making wild claims about the Met Police and the Labour Party then having his trousers taken down.

[Helicopter123]

Earthdweller said:

As week 17 of the protests loom Grenoble in Eastern France has burned for the last four nights following the deaths of two teenagers riding a stolen scooter into the side of a bus whilst being pursued by the Police

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1096667/franc...

This is is a thread about the yellow vests, please keep all posts relevant to the topic, thank you

[loafer123]

Helicopter123 said:

Earthdweller said:

As week 17 of the protests loom Grenoble in Eastern France has burned for the last four nights following the deaths of two teenagers riding a stolen scooter into the side of a bus whilst being pursued by the Police

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1096667/franc...

This is is a thread about the yellow vests, please keep all posts relevant to the topic, thank you

It is completely on topic. The Yellow Vests are a symptom of a wider divide in France between the metropolitan elite of Paris and the rest of the country.

Riots in Grenoble or the Banlieu (sp?) are on the same subjects, with overlapping participants.

[Helicopter123]

loafer123 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Earthdweller said:

As week 17 of the protests loom Grenoble in Eastern France has burned for the last four nights following the deaths of two teenagers riding a stolen scooter into the side of a bus whilst being pursued by the Police

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1096667/franc...

This is is a thread about the yellow vests, please keep all posts relevant to the topic, thank you

It is completely on topic. The Yellow Vests are a symptom of a wider divide in France between the metropolitan elite of Paris and the rest of the country.

Riots in Grenoble or the Banlieu (sp?) are on the same subjects, with overlapping participants.

Incorrect.

The yellow vests movement movement was a populist, grassroots political movement for economic justice.

This article is about 2 youths on a stolen moped trying to escape from the police.

Edited by Helicopter123 on Saturday 9th March 10:04

[loafer123]

Helicopter123 said:

loafer123 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Earthdweller said:

As week 17 of the protests loom Grenoble in Eastern France has burned for the last four nights following the deaths of two teenagers riding a stolen scooter into the side of a bus whilst being pursued by the Police

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1096667/franc...

This is is a thread about the yellow vests, please keep all posts relevant to the topic, thank you

It is completely on topic. The Yellow Vests are a symptom of a wider divide in France between the metropolitan elite of Paris and the rest of the country.

Riots in Grenoble or the Banlieu (sp?) are on the same subjects, with overlapping participants.

Incorrect.

The yellow vests movement movement was a populist, grassroots political movement for economic justice.

This article is about 2 youths on a stolen moped trying to escape from the police.

Edited by Helicopter123 on Saturday 9th March 10:04

I guess you do know that, just because you say something, doesn’t make it true?

I have just as much right to say it is on topic as you.

So yah boo sucks.

[Helicopter123]

loafer123 said:

I guess you do know that, just because you say something, doesn’t make it true?

I have just as much right to say it is on topic as you.

So yah boo sucks.

Thank you - I accept your apology.

[PositronicRay]

loafer123 said:

So yah boo sucks.

A valuable contribution.

[loafer123]

PositronicRay said:

loafer123 said:

So yah boo sucks.

A valuable contribution.

[loafer123]

Helicopter123 said:

loafer123 said:

I guess you do know that, just because you say something, doesn’t make it true?

I have just as much right to say it is on topic as you.

So yah boo sucks.

Thank you - I accept your apology.

You need help. I mean that sincerely.

[alfie2244]

loafer123 said:

You need help. I mean that sincerely.

He gets help from our very own nutter, or is that his very own nutter?

[Earthdweller]

loafer123 said:

Helicopter123 said:

Earthdweller said:

As week 17 of the protests loom Grenoble in Eastern France has burned for the last four nights following the deaths of two teenagers riding a stolen scooter into the side of a bus whilst being pursued by the Police

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1096667/franc...

This is is a thread about the yellow vests, please keep all posts relevant to the topic, thank you

It is completely on topic. The Yellow Vests are a symptom of a wider divide in France between the metropolitan elite of Paris and the rest of the country.

Riots in Grenoble or the Banlieu (sp?) are on the same subjects, with overlapping participants.

Loafer I agree with you

I posted it for two reasons

1. It illustrates the social issues in France

2. Incidents like this have spread nationally in recent years causing widespread damage and effecting resilience in the Police, which coupled with the weekend events may break the Police’s ability to cope

Meanwhile this weekend, sit down protests and occupations are planned across the country including at Paris Roisy airport

[PositronicRay]

Earthdweller said:

Meanwhile this weekend, sit down protests and occupations are planned across the country including at Paris Roisy airport

Apparantly New tactics to counter the falling numbers.

[Frank7]

Earthdweller said:

Loafer I agree with you

I posted it for two reasons

1. It illustrates the social issues in France

2. Incidents like this have spread nationally in recent years causing widespread damage and effecting resilience in the Police, which coupled with the weekend events may break the Police’s ability to cope

Meanwhile this weekend, sit down protests and occupations are planned across the country including at Paris Roisy airport

This gave me pause for thought, initially I thought, “Roisy?”, where’s that?
Then the penny dropped, Charles de Gaulle airport is at Roissy-en-France, and is sometimes referred to as Roissy Airport, sorry for my mental lapse, you were right.

[Earthdweller]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6817995/T...

As it continues, Macron returns from another holiday and Trump weighs in saying the Paris Climate accord is working out well for France

[grumbledoak]

Fouquet's trashed...
https://twitter.com/RemyBuisine/status/11068843131...

Most French seem to think the "dialog" was a PR stunt and nothing will change. Can't blame them.

I wonder what will be next.

[smifffymoto]

Around my area they have rebuilt their camps at the Marmande autoroute junction,bigger and more permanant looking than before.Like I said before,things have been on the back burner because of the Grande debate and Manu was given the benefit of doubt.
Things are going to get worse!

[Baby Shark doo doo doo doo]

grumbledoak said:

Fouquet's trashed...
https://twitter.com/RemyBuisine/status/11068843131...

Most French seem to think the "dialog" was a PR stunt and nothing will change. Can't blame them.

I wonder what will be next.

Wow, I remember eating there

Didn’t realise it was high end cuisine

[andy_s]

OK, it may not last but... For the past month in Algeria there have been protests at the proposed 5th term of President Boutiflika. Last week he tried to appease the population by giving up running for another term and replaced the PM and has started setting up a technocratic government. But the people are cynical and want the whole lot to go - everyone associated with 'le pouvoir'.

Their big day is Fridays. Last Friday about 4 million gathered in Algiers and an estimated 8 million across the country in the larger towns. That's pretty much a third of the population.

But these guys have been clever. First of all it is completely peaceful, people bring their kids, many are elderly, women or normal Joes, so there is no excuse or capability to break things up with violence or arrest ringleaders - the people have been briefed to suss out any 'agent provocateurs' who foment trouble and give them to the Gendarmes. Second there is no one 'leader' so the govt. can't decapitate - loose leadership rotates daily between some lawyers, teachers and students and social media guides everyone. Even the Gendarmerie has been singing with the crowds.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes, setting up a whole new system is not going to happen over-night and usually situations reach a zenith before deteriorating into in-fighting or differences of opinion over small matters. Can they hold the line? "Syria started with roses", said the erstwhile PM, "but ended with blood", but the people aren't stupid and realise other forces were at work in that situation.

Anyway, apropos of nothing in particular but interesting to contrast with France at the moment - who also have a finger in the pie in Algeria, being tacit supporters of le pouvoir since they got the boot. Interesting times.

[Earthdweller]

andy_s said:

OK, it may not last but... For the past month in Algeria there have been protests at the proposed 5th term of President Boutiflika. Last week he tried to appease the population by giving up running for another term and replaced the PM and has started setting up a technocratic government. But the people are cynical and want the whole lot to go - everyone associated with 'le pouvoir'.

Their big day is Fridays. Last Friday about 4 million gathered in Algiers and an estimated 8 million across the country in the larger towns. That's pretty much a third of the population.

But these guys have been clever. First of all it is completely peaceful, people bring their kids, many are elderly, women or normal Joes, so there is no excuse or capability to break things up with violence or arrest ringleaders - the people have been briefed to suss out any 'agent provocateurs' who foment trouble and give them to the Gendarmes. Second there is no one 'leader' so the govt. can't decapitate - loose leadership rotates daily between some lawyers, teachers and students and social media guides everyone. Even the Gendarmerie has been singing with the crowds.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes, setting up a whole new system is not going to happen over-night and usually situations reach a zenith before deteriorating into in-fighting or differences of opinion over small matters. Can they hold the line? "Syria started with roses", said the erstwhile PM, "but ended with blood", but the people aren't stupid and realise other forces were at work in that situation.

Anyway, apropos of nothing in particular but interesting to contrast with France at the moment - who also have a finger in the pie in Algeria, being tacit supporters of le pouvoir since they got the boot. Interesting times.

I must admit I’ve been following this .. my news sources have become more diverse of late due to Sky, BBC et al being so far up their introspective asses

FR24, Euronews and others have been covering it quite widely amongst over events

[andy_s]

Earthdweller said:

I must admit I’ve been following this .. my news sources have become more diverse of late due to Sky, BBC et al being so far up their introspective asses

FR24, Euronews and others have been covering it quite widely amongst over events

I've not seen much on the TV, may tune into the Fr channels to see what they make of it all.

4-5 scenarios;

Cuban [shoe in the brother - not gonna happen now],
Egyptian [Gen. Gaid Salah takes over for a transitional period],
Syrian [you know],
Constitutional [a mechanism exists for transition in the event of 'enfeeblement' of the President],
Idealist [The people get what they want in the form of technocratic government and evaporation of the FLN and rest]

France will be extremely quiet until it is clear which one.

Place you bets...!