Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

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grumbledoak

23,775 posts

171 months

Monday 21st January
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There is certainly a whiff of "Keeping people calm" in the level of reporting of this. Fires, rioting, and gassing civilians from helicopters in a first world nation should be shocking stuff. If that's the new "normal" over there, then I'm glad we're leaving!

As if.

gizlaroc

11,896 posts

162 months

Monday 21st January
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It's OK, Macron is bringing back national service for 16 year olds, that will sort it all out, mix them altogether at 16 and they will not begrudge each other later in life.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1074430/franc...



At least French farmers are only committing suicide at a rate of one every other day now, in 2016 it was one a day, so things are looking up, or maybe there are so few left?
Globalism and EU subsidies to the wealthiest companies do allow cheaper food at the supermarket, but is it really worth it?

Craigyp79

456 posts

121 months

Monday 21st January
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zbc said:
I live in France. When it all started off and for a couple of weeks thereafter there were quite a few problems getting to the shops and schools were closed. Since Christmas the only yellow vests I've seen have been in the front of peoples cars and on cyclists.

On the other hand the media here of all sorts are reporting on it extensively as well as Macron's Grand Debat but strangely not as much about Brexit and nothing at all about the protests outside parliament. They must be hiding it from us. Oh no maybe it's just that it isn't the most important thing in our respective countries and maybe sometimes you have to dig in to the media reporting a little rather than being spoon-fed.
Same here, I live in the North of France and apart from a few manifestations (not really anything that wasn't happening before the gilet-jaunes) it's all gone pretty quiet, still lots of yellow vests in cars though and a general resentment at Macron and his government...

dasigty

213 posts

19 months

Monday 21st January
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zbc said:
I live in France. When it all started off and for a couple of weeks thereafter there were quite a few problems getting to the shops and schools were closed. Since Christmas the only yellow vests I've seen have been in the front of peoples cars and on cyclists.

On the other hand the media here of all sorts are reporting on it extensively as well as Macron's Grand Debat but strangely not as much about Brexit and nothing at all about the protests outside parliament. They must be hiding it from us. Oh no maybe it's just that it isn't the most important thing in our respective countries and maybe sometimes you have to dig in to the media reporting a little rather than being spoon-fed.
George pay well does he ?

How about your location so people can look up just how honest this post is ?.

As to the media coverage being because its of little interest, last nights BBC news carried a story for nearly 10mins on the situation in Tanzania, but didn`t bother covering the tenth week of street riots that have resulted in thousands of arrests, serious injury and a death count in double figures, all happening in our closest neighbour country.

There were protests again in London by the way, but that never got a mention ;0).

wc98

6,922 posts

78 months

Monday 21st January
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Tony427 said:
How many fully armed French Riot police does it take to beat up an unarmed French woman begging them to stop.

It appears to be 6.

https://www.facebook.com/YellowVestUK/videos/11794...

I do hope that this goes viral in France, as it does demonstrate who the real Fascists are.
i think the cries are from a woman looking on. it looks like a bloke being beaten up. i don't know how anyone could stand and watch that happen without intervening.
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dasigty

213 posts

19 months

Monday 21st January
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wc98 said:
i think the cries are from a woman looking on. it looks like a bloke being beaten up. i don't know how anyone could stand and watch that happen without intervening.
Its not that simple when the police are acting more like an army of occupation, you will find that the UK police force are fast heading this way.
People are now filming police interactions that show a clear "Them and us" mentality, where any desire to help has been replaced with looking for excuses to throw their weight around, not all of them, but enough that it should be of concern.

AshVX220

3,407 posts

128 months

Monday 21st January
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Bill said:
Interesting to me that the ECHR rejected a call to temporarily ban the Flash-Balls. I guess the EU are very nervous about what's happening in France in case it spreads. There are a lot of disgruntled people in Europe right now, for all sorts of reasons, but most against the establishment.

zbc

480 posts

89 months

Monday 21st January
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dasigty said:
George pay well does he ?

How about your location so people can look up just how honest this post is ?.

As to the media coverage being because its of little interest, last nights BBC news carried a story for nearly 10mins on the situation in Tanzania, but didn`t bother covering the tenth week of street riots that have resulted in thousands of arrests, serious injury and a death count in double figures, all happening in our closest neighbour country.

There were protests again in London by the way, but that never got a mention ;0).
I wish - where do I submit my invoice?

I live in the NW, near Luxembourg and here are some of the press reports about the local lycee before Christmas where my children went/go.

link

I've seen lots of reports on BBC news and the website about the riots and other situations in France but I wouldn't expect wall to wall coverage.

Also putting on my pedant hat for a moment the closest neighbour country to the UK is actually Ireland with whom we share a land border and I can't remember the last major news story I saw there on the BBC - they must be doing something really terrible but we're just not being told....


Earthdweller

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1,242 posts

64 months

Monday 21st January
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dasigty said:
wc98 said:
i think the cries are from a woman looking on. it looks like a bloke being beaten up. i don't know how anyone could stand and watch that happen without intervening.
Its not that simple when the police are acting more like an army of occupation, you will find that the UK police force are fast heading this way.
People are now filming police interactions that show a clear "Them and us" mentality, where any desire to help has been replaced with looking for excuses to throw their weight around, not all of them, but enough that it should be of concern.
You forget that in the Uk we only have 6 policepersons that aren’t protecting parliament!

Whereas in France they have 350k .. half of whom are in the Gendarmerie which is a branch of the French military.. and all of them are armed

Our 6 policepersons had three water cannons until Sadiq Kahn decided to sell them for threepencehapeny

And 5 of the 6 policepersons are full time engaged dealing with Wayne and waynetta and their Facebook insults

WyrleyD

980 posts

86 months

Monday 21st January
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BFM TV here in France carry extensive GJ news every single night around 18:30 local time.

Earthdweller

Original Poster:

1,242 posts

64 months

Monday 21st January
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zbc said:
I wish - where do I submit my invoice?

I live in the NW, near Luxembourg and here are some of the press reports about the local lycee before Christmas where my children went/go.

link

I've seen lots of reports on BBC news and the website about the riots and other situations in France but I wouldn't expect wall to wall coverage.

Also putting on my pedant hat for a moment the closest neighbour country to the UK is actually Ireland with whom we share a land border and I can't remember the last major news story I saw there on the BBC - they must be doing something really terrible but we're just not being told....
Actually not much really happens in Ireland .. not that’s internationally newsworthy anyway ! Or really newsworthy at all smile

Let’s face it .. it has one city the size of Manchester and a population smaller than greater Manchester and Lancashire combined



EddieSteadyGo

3,199 posts

141 months

Monday 21st January
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dasigty said:
George pay well does he ?

How about your location so people can look up just how honest this post is ?.
You're completely paranoid. As I mentioned to your mate, TVR, a couple of weeks ago, very little continues to happen since Christmas with the yellow vests.

I was over at Chamonix this weekend, and the peage was open again due to the yellow vests, and they were also near the entrance to the Mont Blanc tunnel handing out leaflets.

All very benign. No riots. No problems.

tangerine_sedge

1,448 posts

156 months

Monday 21st January
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Gecko1978 said:
for me the article nailed why I voted leave. the elites have forgotten the working class exist. Rules from the EU without asking if we wanted it the Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example passed by a Labour goverment without asking people if they were in favour. Hipsters yeah that caring lot in their artisan bakeries, fixie bikes that cost more than a new car and mac book pros yeah they understand working class etc
Who are these "elites" that you and many other posters refer to? Are they a secret organisation that meet regularly to plot the downfall of the working class? You couldn't just be referring to elected members of parliament could you?

Many posters on this thread seem to desparately want the yellow vest movement to be something more than it is. It is of little interest within the UK, hence little coverage in the MSM. It doesn't seem to have an impact on most French people, see comments from PH members who are in France. Few people seem outraged that the French police are acting like the French police always have, i.e. going in strong.

Finally, why the attack on hipsters? Probably for the same reason that the acid house scene, punks, skinheads, Mods & rockers and Teddy boys were attacked, i.e. attacked by fat bald middle aged people who have forgotten what it's like to be young and how to have fun.

Murph7355

21,283 posts

194 months

Monday 21st January
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tangerine_sedge said:
...fat bald middle aged people who have forgotten what it's like to be young and how to have fun.
Oi! Whatever "ist" that is, pack it in. I'm offended. And know full well how to have fun thanks very much smile

dasigty

213 posts

19 months

Monday 21st January
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EddieSteadyGo said:
You're completely paranoid. As I mentioned to your mate, TVR, a couple of weeks ago, very little continues to happen since Christmas with the yellow vests.

I was over at Chamonix this weekend, and the peage was open again due to the yellow vests, and they were also near the entrance to the Mont Blanc tunnel handing out leaflets.

All very benign. No riots. No problems.
Simple enough to check on twitter/youtube for video of "Very little continues to happen".

Another of Georges little minions ?

EddieSteadyGo

3,199 posts

141 months

Monday 21st January
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dasigty said:
Simple enough to check on twitter/youtube for video of "Very little continues to happen".

Another of Georges little minions ?
Even better - get off your backside. Get in your car. Drive 4-5 hours. Report back what you see.

TVRJAS

2,375 posts

67 months

Monday 21st January
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EddieSteadyGo said:
You're completely paranoid. As I mentioned to your mate, TVR, a couple of weeks ago, very little continues to happen since Christmas with the yellow vests.

I was over at Chamonix this weekend, and the peage was open again due to the yellow vests, and they were also near the entrance to the Mont Blanc tunnel handing out leaflets.

All very benign. No riots. No problems.
Come back to me when you've got through this lot. Last weekend he was live on the street Paris. Keep scrolling to the week before then lets have a chat.

https://twitter.com/sotiridi Warning graphic images from Oh so quiet France.

Frank7

2,270 posts

25 months

Monday 21st January
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wc98 said:
i think the cries are from a woman looking on. it looks like a bloke being beaten up. i don't know how anyone could stand and watch that happen without intervening.
Whether they’re Gendarmerie or CRS, you’d better have a high pain tolerance if you’re going to wade in there shouting, “ARRÊTEZ, ARRÊTEZ, C’EST SUFFIT!, or C’EST ASSEZ!

dasigty

213 posts

19 months

Monday 21st January
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TVRJAS said:
Come back to me when you've got through this lot. Last weekend he was live on the street Paris. Keep scrolling to the week before then lets have a chat.

https://twitter.com/sotiridi Warning graphic images from Oh so quiet France.
Social media is exposing the complete lack of honest reporting by the MSM, and those who feel the need (Or are paid) to push a political narrative that nothing much is happening.


Bill

38,327 posts

193 months

Monday 21st January
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Amusing he's used a photo from 2016 to (fail to) make his point...