Theresa May (Vol.2)

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frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
He has been shown to be totally useless as a party leader and as leader of the opposition.
He seems totally out of his depth which of course he is the reality has hit him hard
Checks and balances, perfect opposition to useless May.

Good thing none of the proper inbred tories got into power or we would have had to drop the poor guy onto his head a few times to make him appropriate opposition for them.

Actually on second thoughts, May is the pinnacle of ineptitude.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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frisbee said:
Good thing none of the proper inbred tories got into power or we would have had to drop the poor guy onto his head a few times to make him appropriate opposition for them.

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Probably a bit late he looks like he has had a few too many blows already.

RichB

51,567 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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frisbee said:
Actually on second thoughts, May is the pinnacle of ineptitude.
I think you'll find that's Commrade Corbyn. May at least attempts to do something but is no good at it whereas Corbyn make no secret of the fact that he does the square root of fk all and is still no good at it.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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RichB said:
frisbee said:
Actually on second thoughts, May is the pinnacle of ineptitude.
I think you'll find that's Commrade Corbyn. May at least attempts to do something but is no good at it whereas Corbyn make no secret of the fact that he does the square root of fk all and is still no good at it.
Surely if your aim is to do nothing and you succeed you are very good at it!!

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/l...

Only one poll, but interesting to read.

paulrockliffe

15,698 posts

227 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Vaud said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/l...

Only one poll, but interesting to read.
And Barwell is immediately ramping up for a June election. They are fking insane.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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paulrockliffe said:
And Barwell is immediately ramping up for a June election. They are fking insane.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/r...

Depends...

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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What a sad state of affairs in politics when, mid-term, even with the complete horlicks of Brexit going on! the main opposition political party are losing ground on the incumbents..!

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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alfie2244 said:
What a sad state of affairs in politics when, mid-term, even with the complete horlicks of Brexit going on! the main opposition political party are losing ground on the incumbents..!
Great to see so many leftie lovies and champagne socialists in a lather over Corbyn and his mad henchfolk though hehe
maybe they can oust him and have Chuka or some other smug virtue signalling middle class lefty to get back the guilty rich vote !!

cherryowen

11,708 posts

204 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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powerstroke said:
Great to see so many leftie lovies and champagne socialists in a lather over Corbyn and his mad henchfolk though hehe
maybe they can oust him and have Chuka or some other smug virtue signalling middle class lefty to get back the guilty rich vote !!
hehe



dxg

8,197 posts

260 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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cherryowen said:
powerstroke said:
Great to see so many leftie lovies and champagne socialists in a lather over Corbyn and his mad henchfolk though hehe
maybe they can oust him and have Chuka or some other smug virtue signalling middle class lefty to get back the guilty rich vote !!
hehe
With their new, centralist party?

JagLover

42,397 posts

235 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Vaud said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/l...

Only one poll, but interesting to read.
A meaningless poll because in a GE the Tories will need a new policy on Brexit that all candidates sign up to. Half prefer "no Deal" to the WA and many of the remainder want as close a relationship with the EU as possible.

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Rumours that PM Frutiloop might be planning a snap election. Just how badly can she screw it up this time?

Maybe a coalition with the SNP?spin

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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JagLover said:
A meaningless poll because in a GE the Tories will need a new policy on Brexit that all candidates sign up to. Half prefer "no Deal" to the WA and many of the remainder want as close a relationship with the EU as possible.
I don’t disagree, but Labour will also need a policy.

StartersOrders

1,073 posts

175 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Vaud said:
JagLover said:
A meaningless poll because in a GE the Tories will need a new policy on Brexit that all candidates sign up to. Half prefer "no Deal" to the WA and many of the remainder want as close a relationship with the EU as possible.
I don’t disagree, but Labour will also need a policy.
On Brexit or anything at all? They don't seem to have either...

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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StartersOrders said:
On Brexit or anything at all? They don't seem to have either...
I'm pretty clear on the other stuff.

Take over BoE.
Borrow a lot.
Nationalise a lot.
Give the unions massive power and have uncontrolled wage inflation.
Do it all while trying not to completely alienate the city as they aren't totally stupid and will need the tax revenues.
"Important to have dialogue" when ever there is a crisis and avoid any decisive action.

Add 5 years and call the IMF, leaving a note saying "sorry not only is there no money, but we've buggered everything else up as well"

paulrockliffe

15,698 posts

227 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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JagLover said:
A meaningless poll because in a GE the Tories will need a new policy on Brexit that all candidates sign up to. Half prefer "no Deal" to the WA and many of the remainder want as close a relationship with the EU as possible.
Similar to my first thoughts.

The polls being taken now are snap reactions to current politics, if we take them at face-value. But if there were an election that event in itself would move the polls as scrutiny would move from Brexit to cover everything else.

Just like last time when May had a 20 point lead, but everyone realised she was a fking idiot when she spoke to the country about other stuff.

The problem she has is that her polling now is pretty much purely based on Brexit and Corbyn on Brexit + the left wing loons that are still twisting about Thatcher. Just like last time Cons won't have a choice in how they campaign on Brexit, whether we've left or not, and Labour will mirror that policy in the same mealy-mouthed-something-for-everyone way they did last time and neutralise Brexit, making the vote about other stuff.

Labour aren't going to split if a new party is given a few months to get money, profile and candidates before an election.

The split is interesting though, if the Cons could find a way of making it look like things were calm and nothing until 2022, but force a split, then call an election immediately, that's probably the only way May could win a vote. Won't happen obviously.

What's decisive for me is that regardless of Brexit and everything else, May cannot win an election that she told the Country she wouldn't fight and that the electorate can see has been foisted on them purely to keep Gavin Barwell and his cronies jobs.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Vaud said:
I'm pretty clear on the other stuff.

Take over BoE.
Borrow a lot.
Nationalise a lot.
Give the unions massive power and have uncontrolled wage inflation.
Do it all while trying not to completely alienate the city as they aren't totally stupid and will need the tax revenues.
"Important to have dialogue" when ever there is a crisis and avoid any decisive action.

Add 5 years and call the IMF, leaving a note saying "sorry not only is there no money, but we've buggered everything else up as well"
5 years is a bit optimistic I think 5 months would be sufficient

richie99

1,116 posts

186 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Vaud said:
I'm pretty clear on the other stuff.

Take over BoE.
Borrow a lot.
Nationalise a lot.
Give the unions massive power and have uncontrolled wage inflation.
Do it all while trying not to completely alienate the city as they aren't totally stupid and will need the tax revenues.
"Important to have dialogue" when ever there is a crisis and avoid any decisive action.

Add 5 years and call the IMF, leaving a note saying "sorry not only is there no money, but we've buggered everything else up as well"
5 years is a bit optimistic I think 5 months would be sufficient
It takes longer for the effects to filter down to the halfwits that voted for them and for the aforementioned halfwits to accept that the bad things are not due to ‘cuts’ as they have been conditioned their whole lives to believe.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
5 years is a bit optimistic I think 5 months would be sufficient
5 years because of fixed term parliaments.