Theresa May (Vol.2)

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Blue62

8,846 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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gizlaroc said:
I think Gove would be best caretaker PM, another bloody remainer, but he has far more about him than May.

His speech back in January in the HOC was superb.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjrEpFi3QOE&t=...

I hope you don't take it personally, but your post highlights the ignorance and confusion that abounds. Some people on here also think 29/3 is still on, with all the coverage on the issue it's shows just how little actually sinks in or that people are so entrenched that they've stopped listening and learning. Worrying times.


Well worth watching.

Blue62

8,846 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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anonymous said:
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That doesn't surprise me, in fact I thought it might be higher. I recognise it's anecdotal but have you stopped to consider why highly educated, politically engaged professionals would consider us to be better off in the EU than out? I guess they'll be derided in the same way the CBI, NFU, OSBR et al have been. Plus sa change

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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p1stonhead said:
FN2TypeR said:
p1stonhead said:
I purposely haven’t because it’s a all just a bit tedious and boring now.

I did think that was the case though.
Moved to April 12th with a further extension after that to tie up the formalities, but only if her deal passes through Parliament. I believe.
Thanks. Can’t see it ever passing though!
Nor I, for what it's worth!

PositronicRay

27,006 posts

183 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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FN2TypeR said:
p1stonhead said:
I purposely haven’t because it’s a all just a bit tedious and boring now.

I did think that was the case though.
Moved to April 12th with a further extension after that to tie up the formalities, but only if her deal passes through Parliament. I believe.
Do we still need a vote on this?

tribalsurfer

1,137 posts

119 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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PositronicRay said:
Do we still need a vote on this?
According to the BBC we do

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/F201/p...

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Blue62 said:
have you stopped to consider why highly educated, politically engaged professionals would consider us to be better off in the EU than out?
Easier access to various gravy trains?

PositronicRay

27,006 posts

183 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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tribalsurfer said:
PositronicRay said:
Do we still need a vote on this?
According to the BBC we do

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/F201/p...
Okay they need to get wiggling then.

Blue62

8,846 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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garyhun said:
Easier access to various gravy trains?
And the 10% (allegedly) who want to leave, are they altruists?

PositronicRay

27,006 posts

183 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Blue62 said:
garyhun said:
Easier access to various gravy trains?
And the 10% (allegedly) who want to leave, are they altruists?
Filing clerks.

Vanden Saab

14,023 posts

74 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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tribalsurfer said:
PositronicRay said:
Do we still need a vote on this?
According to the BBC we do

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/F201/p...
Correct answer. There are some who believe a minister of the crown could change the date but that idea seems to have been quashed for now. If Mays deal is rejected and then Art50 is delayed there may be a legal challenge as the legislation does seem to suggest that it can only be delayed for a specific reason and not just because they don't want to Leave but time will tell on that one.

wc98

10,378 posts

140 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Bill said:
Unfortunately the time for that was when she threw away her majority and had to get into bed with the DUP. If she'd set up a cross party working group then we'd have been away, albeit probably in BRINO form. As it is she pissed off everyone in her own party by going it alone and then hacked everyone else off by trying to bully her ridiculous deal through.
to this day i still don't understand the rationale that didn't allow this to happen. leave/remain was never the preserve of any of the main two parties or their supporters.a cross party approach would have taken a huge amount of political angst out of the equation from the get go.

Cobnapint

8,625 posts

151 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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wc98 said:
to this day i still don't understand the rationale that didn't allow this to happen. leave/remain was never the preserve of any of the main two parties or their supporters.a cross party approach would have taken a huge amount of political angst out of the equation from the get go.
Not when one of the parties is doing everything it can to obstruct you to trigger a GE.
And another who's trying to create any excuse it can for another indy ref.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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anonymous said:
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So they’re charlatans just fobbing off their jobs and responsibilities onto subordinates?

So basically achieving a managerial position or any one of responsibility is just a reward where you get to do nothing and make no decisions and just get more money. hehe

wc98

10,378 posts

140 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Cobnapint said:
Not when one of the parties is doing everything it can to obstruct you to trigger a GE.
And another who's trying to create any excuse it can for another indy ref.
surely party positions would be put aside by individual mp's in that situation though. i got the feeling as things developed the red and yellow lot just capitalised on the developing clusterfk . maybe just my perception though.

768

13,663 posts

96 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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wc98 said:
surely party positions would be put aside by individual mp's in that situation though.
hehe

Blue62

8,846 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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anonymous said:
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At least Gary and Ray attempted some humour with their dose of prejudice.

Bill

52,695 posts

255 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Cobnapint said:
Not when one of the parties is doing everything it can to obstruct you to trigger a GE.
And another who's trying to create any excuse it can for another indy ref.
At that point they'd just had a GE.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Blue62 said:
anonymous said:
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At least Gary and Ray attempted some humour with their dose of prejudice.
With respect, talking of prejudice, do you not think that this line of yours hasn't a hint of that?

"have you stopped to consider why highly educated, politically engaged professionals would consider us to be better off in the EU than out? "

Does this mean that the lower classes should know their place, and bow to what the better people want, the people who do not have to live with the ideologically driven social polices of the EU and, by extension, our government's. I wonder, if they did, would they feel the same way.

abzmike

8,344 posts

106 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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768 said:
hehe
At that point May’s ‘I know best’ attitude took over, and she hasn’t taken any advice since.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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gizlaroc said:
Half of the country will think she is wonderful.

Since when were we a nation of 34.8 million people?
I think you will find it that your half is more like a quarter in reality. I've got bright nieces and nephews reaching franchise age or past it since the referendum, looking forward to their lives with trepidation as their world shrinks.
My father, a very bright 76 year old, foresees a world of economic pain for his grandchildren and for his sons with 10 to 20 more years of working life ahead of them. He's a pHD in social science and politics. He has lost friends over the referendum, quite a few.
His view is that you can only effect change from within and sees the European project as something in its infancy with a long way to go but directionally correct given the shift in the world economy.
Essentially, if the European project fails, the BRIC nations will arrive like vultures and rule our lives and generally with crap products and services that we no longer produce for ourselves.