Who is our next Prime Minister?

Who is our next Prime Minister?

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MellowshipSlinky

14,694 posts

189 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Unfortunately, she needs to be an MP in Westminster.

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Has said she would never want to do it.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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RichB said:
Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Has said she would never want to do it.
And in any case what exactly are her qualifications for the job? Her career so far isn't exactly a shining beacon of electability or talent even in the shallow pool of vaguely possible candidates.

Not that she would be a valid candidate right now.

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Jonesy23 said:
RichB said:
Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Has said she would never want to do it.
And in any case what exactly are her qualifications for the job? Her career so far isn't exactly a shining beacon of electability or talent even in the shallow pool of vaguely possible candidates. Not that she would be a valid candidate right now.
indeed, if she ventures down to Westminster in the next few years and perhaps in a few years she could be a significant player.

Derek Smith

45,613 posts

248 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Unfortunately, she needs to be an MP in Westminster.
I don't think that's strictly correct. Duggie Home was PM without being an MP.


Derek Smith

45,613 posts

248 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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I'm glad it is all settled now. The tory party will get behind their leader, support her in her attempts to get the best deal from the EU, and then get the house to support her plans for brexit.

That's a relief.


Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Technically true, but I don't see anyone not being a sitting MP being PM in UK 2018.
After saying that, even way back in the 60's ADH gave up his baronet and gave a sop of jumping to a rotten borough safe seat for his PMship

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Derek Smith said:
MellowshipSlinky said:
Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Unfortunately, she needs to be an MP in Westminster.
I don't think that's strictly correct. Duggie Home was PM without being an MP.
According to Wikipedia he was Member of Parliament for Kinross and Western Perthshire, In office 7 November 1963 – 10 October 1974 confused

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Lots of people mention Javid - good choice imo and I’d vote for him in a GE - however if the vote went to the Tory members as most Tory leadership contests do then would they vote for him?

Tory members are not representative of British society, far from it - Bow Group research says that the average age of members is 72 and I think it’s fair to assume the membership is predominantly white. Would enough white Tory septuagenarians really vote for someone like Sajid Javid? I don’t think they would.



BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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RichB said:
Derek Smith said:
MellowshipSlinky said:
Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Unfortunately, she needs to be an MP in Westminster.
I don't think that's strictly correct. Duggie Home was PM without being an MP.
According to Wikipedia he was Member of Parliament for Kinross and Western Perthshire, In office 7 November 1963 – 10 October 1974 confused
He became Tory leader and PM whilst in the Lords. Quit the Lords days after and then became an MP a few weeks later. However for a short period he was PM without being a Lord or an MP.


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:
Lots of people mention Javid - good choice imo and I’d vote for him in a GE - however if the vote went to the Tory members as most Tory leadership contests do then would they vote for him?

Tory members are not representative of British society, far from it - Bow Group research says that the average age of members is 72 and I think it’s fair to assume the membership is predominantly white. Would enough white Tory septuagenarians really vote for someone like Sajid Javid? I don’t think they would.
Whenever you see them at their meetings and conference, they do all look really old and white.

Apparently there’s only 124,000 of them too. Seems odd that if Mogg’s hopeless coup had succeeded, then 124,000 people would be deciding the outcome of the leadership battle and the future of the Brexit negotiations.

JagLover

42,381 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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El stovey said:
BlackLabel said:
Lots of people mention Javid - good choice imo and I’d vote for him in a GE - however if the vote went to the Tory members as most Tory leadership contests do then would they vote for him?

Tory members are not representative of British society, far from it - Bow Group research says that the average age of members is 72 and I think it’s fair to assume the membership is predominantly white. Would enough white Tory septuagenarians really vote for someone like Sajid Javid? I don’t think they would.
Whenever you see them at their meetings and conference, they do all look really old and white.

Apparently there’s only 124,000 of them too. Seems odd that if Mogg’s hopeless coup had succeeded, then 124,000 people would be deciding the outcome of the leadership battle and the future of the Brexit negotiations.
This does seem to be Diane Abbott levels of political analysis.

So they wont vote for him because he is brown?, not because he is a remainer who has had less than one year's experience in one of the main offices of state and doesn't seem to have accomplished anything of note to date.


The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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JagLover said:
This does seem to be Diane Abbott levels of political analysis.

So they wont vote for him because he is brown?, not because he is a remainer who has had less than one year's experience in one of the main offices of state and doesn't seem to have accomplished anything of note to date.
These people would have said the same if Javid was a woman....

Oh wait, wonder which party has had 2 women PM's and which is led by an old grey haired middle class man with a private income ?

Ratski83

952 posts

73 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Sajid Javid’s Uncle’s runs a dodgy cash for visa shop back in Pakistan. If you thought Meghan Markle’s extended family was bad you ain’t seen nothing yet.

irocfan

40,389 posts

190 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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JagLover said:
This does seem to be Diane Abbott levels of political analysis.

So they wont vote for him because he is brown?, not because he is a remainer who has had less than one year's experience in one of the main offices of state and doesn't seem to have accomplished anything of note to date.
Cameron got in.... OK I see what you mean

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:
RichB said:
Derek Smith said:
MellowshipSlinky said:
Trophy Husband said:
Ruth Davidson.
Unfortunately, she needs to be an MP in Westminster.
I don't think that's strictly correct. Duggie Home was PM without being an MP.
According to Wikipedia he was Member of Parliament for Kinross and Western Perthshire, In office 7 November 1963 – 10 October 1974 confused
He became Tory leader and PM whilst in the Lords. Quit the Lords days after and then became an MP a few weeks later. However for a short period he was PM without being a Lord or an MP.
Thanks for the clarification, history is important... smile

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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JagLover said:
This does seem to be Diane Abbott levels of political analysis.So they wont vote for him because he is brown?, not because he is a remainer who has had less than one year's experience in one of the main offices of state and doesn't seem to have accomplished anything of note to date.
I would say rising to the position of senior director of Deutsche Bank by his mid 40s on a salary of £3.0m is quite some accomplishment! biggrin

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:
He became Tory leader and PM whilst in the Lords. Quit the Lords days after and then became an MP a few weeks later. However for a short period he was PM without being a Lord or an MP.
ADH is famous as being the last Lord who was PM, but after a quick skim of his wiki page the first thought that occured to me was who stepped down to allow his MPship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Kinross_and_Wes...
Seems there was an unfortunate death.

Pan Pan Pan

9,881 posts

111 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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The tories `who shall we pick to be the next PM business' back in 2016, reminded me of the `who shall we pick to be Edmunds best man' scene from the Blackadder`s wedding to `Bob' episode.
They went round and round choosing absolutely everybody unsuitable (even nursey) for the job, rather than the one person who really wanted to do it, (Lord Percy). Consequently they got May as PM in 2016.
Wonder who they will get to do it this time? the HoC cat perhaps?
The tories do seem to have a bit of a habit of picking the wrong person to do the wrong job, despite having a few who might be suited,, but hey ho! no different to labour I suppose.
Never mind a Brexit disaster, whether in, or out of the EU, the true and total disaster for the UK would be a Corbyn government. The UK could not survive another labour government.

Robertj21a

16,476 posts

105 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Pan Pan Pan said:
The tories `who shall we pick to be the next PM business' back in 2016, reminded me of the `who shall we pick to be Edmunds best man' scene from the Blackadder`s wedding to `Bob' episode.
They went round and round choosing absolutely everybody unsuitable (even nursey) for the job, rather than the one person who really wanted to do it, (Lord Percy). Consequently they got May as PM in 2016.
Wonder who they will get to do it this time? the HoC cat perhaps?
The tories do seem to have a bit of a habit of picking the wrong person to do the wrong job, despite having a few who might be suited,, but hey ho! no different to labour I suppose.
Never mind a Brexit disaster, whether in, or out of the EU, the true and total disaster for the UK would be a Corbyn government. The UK could not survive another labour government.
Agreed. So May takes us out of the EU , probably resigns in April/May and a new PM settles in ready to hammer Corbyn at the next GE......
We still come back to who is most suitable to take over !!