Brexit: would you change your vote.

Brexit: would you change your vote.

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james-witton

Original Poster:

1,363 posts

107 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I voted leave and I still believe that we would be better out of the EU.

However, recent events have left me with no confidence that our self-serving, myopic politicians could get a positive deal.

So if there was another referendum (don’t think that there will be) I would reluctantly change my vote.

What would you do?

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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It was 55/45 toward remain in my mind.

My life would not be improved in any meaningful way by leaving.

Platitudes like "taking back control " are meaningless nonsense.

I have sympathy with several aspects of Brexit ( freedom to hire people from all over the world more fairly than at present, for example ) but right now this is not enough to win my vote.

After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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The last time this was asked on here only 8% (of 1084 members polled) said they'd change their vote.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I imagine the figure is a bit higher now - even people like Arron Banks, Iain Dale etc say that remaining is better that what May is proposing.


bmwmike

6,939 posts

108 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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toppstuff said:
It was 55/45 toward remain in my mind.

My life would not be improved in any meaningful way by leaving.

Platitudes like "taking back control " are meaningless nonsense.

I have sympathy with several aspects of Brexit ( freedom to hire people from all over the world more fairly than at present, for example ) but right now this is not enough to win my vote.

After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.
Good post, exactly my thoughts too.

Uk should remain in the EU. If territories/regions/counties of the UK want to leave the EU perhaps they should devolve fully from the UK first.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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We have had at least 2 threads running asking just this.

Iirc. The poll had Leave greater than 50%. (Closer to 60% IIRC)
Remain to leave. 4%
Leave to remain. 4%


I would expect the numbers not changing much.

Tankrizzo

7,258 posts

193 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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No, because although I think the implementation of the vote has been utterly shambolic and the government have been an inept disgrace over their handling of it, the principle of the vote to leave is the same (for me, anyway).

DaveTheRave87

2,080 posts

89 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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No.

dirty boy

14,697 posts

209 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I voted remain, but then got fed up and thought fk it, just leave, now I think if the leave situation is that poorly managed, then why bother?


kiethton

13,890 posts

180 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Nope

Remain —-> Remain

All the way though I’ve weighed toward remain because although I can see some potential advantages i knew that our politicians would never be able to negotiate a good deal = better off where we are until such time:

A) the economics of leaving change
B) the governments ability to negotiate a decent deal strengthens/EU weakens

Until then we really need the unskilled labour and access to markets the bloc provides, would however recommend withholding any contributions until such time a clean audit is achieved and accounts are signed off and we actually use our veto when we should over more ominous aspects of legislation/project involvement.

turbobloke

103,861 posts

260 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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No, reasons for Leaving remain wink

Deesee

8,400 posts

83 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Never voted, as never seen the point to be honest..

If it came back up, certainly out for me.

bloomen

6,891 posts

159 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Was a remain. Am a remain.

The previous vote had little to do with the EU. It was a general fk you to everyone and everything. If there is to be another vote it'll be an even bigger fk you and have even less to do with the actual issue in question.

The ballot paper should just have a single 'fk you' and a box to tick.

BMRuss

1,547 posts

190 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Voted to leave the EU, would again vote to leave the EU, would have been helpful from the start had we had a true 'Beleaver' in charge of getting us out rather than some piss poor attempt by people that wanted to remain.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,217 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I voted leave - but I'd vote remain now.
I don't like being in the communist dictatorship that is the European Union, but it's pretty clear now that anyone who leaves will be punished.
We just aren't big enough to go it alone with such a powerful neighbour willing to throw us under the bus at any opportunity.

BMRuss

1,547 posts

190 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I voted leave - but I'd vote remain now.
I don't like being in the communist dictatorship that is the European Union, but it's pretty clear now that anyone who leaves will be punished.
We just aren't big enough to go it alone with such a powerful neighbour willing to throw us under the bus at any opportunity.
Not big enough to go it alone? Madness.....

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:
The last time this was asked on here only 8% (of 1084 members polled) said they'd change their vote.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I imagine the figure is a bit higher now - even people like Arron Banks, Iain Dale etc say that remaining is better that what May is proposing.
Quite a difference between "Remaining is better than Remain minus minus" and "Remaining is better than Leaving" biggrin

bodhi

10,444 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I was 60/40 for Leave at the time of the referendum, but seeing how the EU have behaved in the negotiations, and with rumblings of tax harmonisation and a European Army, it's now about 90/10 in favour of Leave.

kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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toppstuff said:
After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.
I dunno, by the same token, greater attention has been paid to the antics of the politicians in Brussels and we can now be more sure than ever of how hopeless that lot are as well.

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

169 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Voted Remain, would now vote to Leave.

Leicester Loyal

4,535 posts

122 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Voted leave, would still vote leave. Get us out.