How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 6)
Discussion
powerstroke said:
Not that s
te again , we were told we would leave every aspect of the EU .
Remain told us and told us it would be terrible.
leave told us and told us we would be just fine .
Like fools we voted for a remain PM claiming to be a leaver and a government of spineless tossers and a pro remain civil
service did the wreck brexit negotiations ..... so here we are ....
Is that Leave Leave or just Leave ? WTO or stay in CM?te again , we were told we would leave every aspect of the EU .Remain told us and told us it would be terrible.
leave told us and told us we would be just fine .
Like fools we voted for a remain PM claiming to be a leaver and a government of spineless tossers and a pro remain civil
service did the wreck brexit negotiations ..... so here we are ....
In or out of the EFTA? What about N ireland?
Care to explain ? And will 17.4m people agree with your explanation ?
frisbee said:
Robertj21a said:
Nobody needed to explain what it meant. The question was very straightforward - stay in or leave. For 52% of the electorate they needed nothing more, it was a glorious opportunity to get out. So they took it with both hands. Only Remainers are now trying to suggest it needed to be made more difficult. Given what has gone on since I reckon Leave would now be over 60%.
More like: took it with both hands, immediately dropped it, tripped over it, ripped their shorts and shat themselves.Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically f
ked it up.
toppstuff said:
powerstroke said:
Not that ste again , we were told we would leave every aspect of the EU .
Remain told us and told us it would be terrible.
leave told us and told us we would be just fine .
Like fools we voted for a remain PM claiming to be a leaver and a government of spineless tossers and a pro remain civil
service did the wreck brexit negotiations ..... so here we are ....
Is that Leave Leave or just Leave ? WTO or stay in CM?te again , we were told we would leave every aspect of the EU .Remain told us and told us it would be terrible.
leave told us and told us we would be just fine .
Like fools we voted for a remain PM claiming to be a leaver and a government of spineless tossers and a pro remain civil
service did the wreck brexit negotiations ..... so here we are ....
In or out of the EFTA? What about N ireland?
Care to explain ? And will 17.4m people agree with your explanation ?
k themselves when they started that nonsense... but no the jelly just bent over ,,,Edited by powerstroke on Saturday 15th December 21:48
Helicopter123 said:
frisbee said:
Robertj21a said:
Nobody needed to explain what it meant. The question was very straightforward - stay in or leave. For 52% of the electorate they needed nothing more, it was a glorious opportunity to get out. So they took it with both hands. Only Remainers are now trying to suggest it needed to be made more difficult. Given what has gone on since I reckon Leave would now be over 60%.
More like: took it with both hands, immediately dropped it, tripped over it, ripped their shorts and shat themselves.Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically f
ked it up.
Biggest political balls up in my memory. It just gets worse every day.toppstuff said:
Helicopter123 said:
This.
Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically fked it up.
Yes Yes Yes. Spot on. Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically f
ked it up.We wanted what was set out in the Lancaster house speech not the BRINO deal May and Oily negotiated.
No deal WTO is the only way now, so start preparing and f
king get on with it!Helicopter123 said:
Amber Rudd and others in cabinet turning towards a second referendum.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46575210
This is very good news indeed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46575210
This is very good news indeed.
toppstuff said:
Robertj21a said:
Nobody needed to explain what it meant. The question was very straightforward - stay in or leave. For 52% of the electorate they needed nothing more, it was a glorious opportunity to get out. So they took it with both hands. Only Remainers are now trying to suggest it needed to be made more difficult. Given what has gone on since I reckon Leave would now be over 60%.
Is that Leave Leave or just Leave ? WTO or stay in CM?In or out of the EFTA? What about N ireland?
Care to explain ? And will 17.4m people agree with your explanation ?
amgmcqueen said:
toppstuff said:
Helicopter123 said:
This.
Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically fked it up.
Yes Yes Yes. Spot on. Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically f
ked it up.We wanted what was set out in the Lancaster house speech not the BRINO deal May and Oily negotiated.
No deal WTO is the only way now, so start preparing and f
king get on with it!
Balmoral said:
The EU has negotiated 100% for the best interests of the EU. The UK has negotiated 52% for the UK, 48% for the EU.
The UK people voted 52% for the UK and 48% for the EU.The UK government i.e. Theresa May acting alone but alongside pro EU civil service advisors, has negotiated on behalf of the EU.
mx5nut said:
17.4m different ideas about what would happen next, all convinced that everyone agrees with them.
It's odd more Remainers didn't spot this fatal flaw and stop the referendum from taking place after they were the ones who gave the public the referendum. Even more odd they then campaigned on the basis that at the least it would mean leaving the SM + CU, or leaving on WTO terms. Did you not believe the Remain campaign ?The desperation to want Rudd and Co to deliver another vote again referendum, sorry, peoples vote, is particularly dumb, as Rudd and the Caroline Lucas types are the typical Remain MPs who voted to give us a referendum, but then immediately campaigned on the above outcomes and how it would lead to the destruction of the UK. Makes you wonder why they were happy to risk, but then at least one vocal anti Brexit/vote MP couldn't even remember she voted to hold a referendum, and she's now the darling of the vote again crowd - embarrassing.
One of the few good things May did was the Lancaster House speech. She broadly summed up the reasons for leaving and what that would mean. Shame she didn't stick with it, but Remainers eh ?
Time is running out, and not enough of the already spineless pro EU MPs that fill the HoC are going to back another vote, even this bunch of muppets know just how disastrous it looks , save for the odd few PH dolts clinging to the idea.
don'tbesilly said:
amgmcqueen said:
toppstuff said:
Helicopter123 said:
This.
Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically fked it up.
Yes Yes Yes. Spot on. Brexiters couldn’t agree what they wanted and basically f
ked it up.We wanted what was set out in the Lancaster house speech not the BRINO deal May and Oily negotiated.
No deal WTO is the only way now, so start preparing and f
king get on with it!ks on a plate.otis criblecoblis said:
It's odd more Remainers didn't spot this fatal flaw and stop the referendum from taking place after they were the ones who gave the public the referendum. Even more odd they then campaigned on the basis that at the least it would mean leaving the SM + CU, or leaving on WTO terms. Did you not believe the Remain campaign ?
The desperation to want Rudd and Co to deliver another vote again referendum, sorry, peoples vote, is particularly dumb, as Rudd and the Caroline Lucas types are the typical Remain MPs who voted to give us a referendum, but then immediately campaigned on the above outcomes and how it would lead to the destruction of the UK. Makes you wonder why they were happy to risk, but then at least one vocal anti Brexit/vote MP couldn't even remember she voted to hold a referendum, and she's now the darling of the vote again crowd - embarrassing.
One of the few good things May did was the Lancaster House speech. She broadly summed up the reasons for leaving and what that would mean. Shame she didn't stick with it, but Remainers eh ?
Time is running out, and not enough of the already spineless pro EU MPs that fill the HoC are going to back another vote, even this bunch of muppets know just how disastrous it looks , save for the odd few PH dolts clinging to the idea.
"The desperation..." Yes your post reeks of it.The desperation to want Rudd and Co to deliver another vote again referendum, sorry, peoples vote, is particularly dumb, as Rudd and the Caroline Lucas types are the typical Remain MPs who voted to give us a referendum, but then immediately campaigned on the above outcomes and how it would lead to the destruction of the UK. Makes you wonder why they were happy to risk, but then at least one vocal anti Brexit/vote MP couldn't even remember she voted to hold a referendum, and she's now the darling of the vote again crowd - embarrassing.
One of the few good things May did was the Lancaster House speech. She broadly summed up the reasons for leaving and what that would mean. Shame she didn't stick with it, but Remainers eh ?
Time is running out, and not enough of the already spineless pro EU MPs that fill the HoC are going to back another vote, even this bunch of muppets know just how disastrous it looks , save for the odd few PH dolts clinging to the idea.
You can't undermine democracy with democracy. The people are entitled to change their minds. A referendum is now inevitable and in the best interests of British people.
otis criblecoblis said:
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One of the few good things May did was the Lancaster House speech. She broadly summed up the reasons for leaving and what that would mean. Shame she didn't stick with it, but Remainers eh ?
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One of the few good things May did was the Lancaster House speech. She broadly summed up the reasons for leaving and what that would mean. Shame she didn't stick with it, but Remainers eh ?
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The speech that was filled will bulls
t contradictory demands that the EU had patiently and politely pointed out many times before the speech that they would be non-negotiable. The speech that is probably the best example of the Tories arguing amongst themselves what Brexit should mean while ignoring the party they actually have to negotiate (beg) with.GOOD POST!!!!
Trolleys Thank You said:
"The desperation..." Yes your post reeks of it.
You can't undermine democracy with democracy. The people are entitled to change their minds. A referendum is now inevitable and in the best interests of British people.
House!You can't undermine democracy with democracy. The people are entitled to change their minds. A referendum is now inevitable and in the best interests of British people.
Simple question for you. If there is a second referendum, and it returns a Leave vote - what then?
Trolleys Thank You said:
"The desperation..." Yes your post reeks of it.
You can't undermine democracy with democracy. The people are entitled to change their minds. A referendum is now inevitable and in the best interests of British people.
+1. You can't undermine democracy with democracy. The people are entitled to change their minds. A referendum is now inevitable and in the best interests of British people.
Team leave had 2 + years and failed. People have changed their minds. You won get over it, you failed to deliver "this time", get over it, 2nd ref with realistic "ends and outcomes" bring it on, if your so sure the will has not changed you have nothing to lose.
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