Gatwick closed by drones

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Shakermaker

11,317 posts

99 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Thankyou4calling said:
Yep the country that was able to win a world war 70 years ago now can’t rid the skies of a drone.

Let’s hold a 6 month public enquiry as is usual before putting in more legislation that’s ignored.

I despair of our lack of action.

Now it feels no one is prepared to do something for risk of offending or upsetting.

It really resonates of much wider issues. Police who wont pull a drowning man from a river, fire fighters who won’t go in a burning building, members of the public who’d rather film an old lady being mugged than rugby tackle the offender.

It’s all related .
You think that the fact they haven't been able to sort this out for 14 hours is because it might offend or upset someone?

schmalex

13,616 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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ApOrbital said:
I thought they use jammers for drones at airports?
Yes and no. It’s not that simple.

eharding

13,600 posts

283 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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schmalex said:
“.....and watch this”.
...and many times have those three words been uttered, only to be followed by a pain-and-debris-filled fustercluck?

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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ukaskew said:
I do wonder what planet some people are on…”just knock it down with a shotgun”

A moving target…at night…with a shotgun (or high powered rifle, equally stupid ideas). Let’s just get The Rock to do it whilst we’re at it, stood on the back of a pickup being driven by Jason Statham, then when the culprit is found Tom Cruise can chase him across the rooftops of Crawley.
Ever been clay pigeon shooting?
Ever been lamping?

You make it sound like no one can shoot moving things, even at night. You are trying to suggest a trained police marksman cant hit a 1ft wide target if someone shines a spotlight on it.

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 20th December 11:00

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Shakermaker said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Yep the country that was able to win a world war 70 years ago now can’t rid the skies of a drone.

Let’s hold a 6 month public enquiry as is usual before putting in more legislation that’s ignored.

I despair of our lack of action.

Now it feels no one is prepared to do something for risk of offending or upsetting.

It really resonates of much wider issues. Police who wont pull a drowning man from a river, fire fighters who won’t go in a burning building, members of the public who’d rather film an old lady being mugged than rugby tackle the offender.

It’s all related .
You think that the fact they haven't been able to sort this out for 14 hours is because it might offend or upset someone?
I wanted to ask the same question too.

As for the other examples I'm pretty sure they're bks too with the exception of the last one which is highly likely these days but doesn't demonstrate the point he/she is trying to make.


Starfighter

4,908 posts

177 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Canute said:
I think fishing line would be useful if it could be deployed via a fishing rod with a suitable weight. Might take a few goes, but got to be a bit safer than shooting it down. Depending how close and fast the drone is moving.
I was recommended a book on this topic:-
Drone Fishing by J R Hartley

Thankyou4calling

10,595 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Has anyone got a picture of the drone?

sc0tt

18,032 posts

200 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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ukaskew said:
I do wonder what planet some people are on…”just knock it down with a shotgun”

A moving target…at night…with a shotgun (or high powered rifle, equally stupid ideas). Let’s just get The Rock to do it whilst we’re at it, stood on the back of a pickup being driven by Jason Statham, then when the culprit is found Tom Cruise can chase him across the rooftops of Crawley.
hehe

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
ukaskew said:
I do wonder what planet some people are on…”just knock it down with a shotgun”

A moving target…at night…with a shotgun (or high powered rifle, equally stupid ideas). Let’s just get The Rock to do it whilst we’re at it, stood on the back of a pickup being driven by Jason Statham, then when the culprit is found Tom Cruise can chase him across the rooftops of Crawley.
Ever been clay pigeon shooting?
Ever been lamping?

You make it sound like no one can shoot moving things, even at night. You are trying to suggest a trained police marksman cant hit a 1ft wide target if someone shines a spotlight on it.

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 20th December 11:00
And I'm sure the chance of the drone just gaining great altitude and moving out of range isn't a possibility? I doubt the person flying it will make heir life easy for them.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Vaud said:
p1stonhead said:
Kinda agree. fking shoot it down. I refuse to believe that at no point it wasn’t in range of a shotgun.
Why do you refuse to believe? How do you shoot down a dark object at night in a populated area with lots of expensive planes and equipment (radars, etc) around... with a shotgun that has an effective range of <75 yards?
If it’s in the airport perimeter and not hundreds of feet above it then it would have been within 75m. And the area around isn’t ‘populated’ it’s mostly fields around the runway. It’s no Heathrow. People go hunting with shotguns all the time in the same area. It would be firing into the sky in an area which, by chance, there are zero aircraft!

What’s the cost of a drone falling on a plane or radar after being shot down vs closing the airport for a day?


Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 20th December 10:56
So who are you going to give these shotguns to where are you going to position them? The range is 75m is it and presumably night time makes seeing them difficult?






The drones aren’t sitting in one place. They appear and then fly off when the police and operations vehicles try to follow them.

Mafffew

2,149 posts

110 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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schmalex said:
Yup

I was attending a test in Thailand last year and the manufacturer of a certain bit of kit said to the end user “take control of the drone, fly it low and fast towards us and watch this”.

To be fair, they managed to knock it out of the sky as it approached the assembled dignitaries at top speed. However, in losing control, it hit a tree at about 40mph and split into many pieces that then fired into the crowd like shrapnel, injuring a fair few people. At the same time, the inhibition device knocked out all radios and cell phones in the area.

It was chaos. There was a lot of muttering and that particular manufacturer chose not to do live tests any more.
That is amazing laugh

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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El stovey said:
p1stonhead said:
Vaud said:
p1stonhead said:
Kinda agree. fking shoot it down. I refuse to believe that at no point it wasn’t in range of a shotgun.
Why do you refuse to believe? How do you shoot down a dark object at night in a populated area with lots of expensive planes and equipment (radars, etc) around... with a shotgun that has an effective range of <75 yards?
If it’s in the airport perimeter and not hundreds of feet above it then it would have been within 75m. And the area around isn’t ‘populated’ it’s mostly fields around the runway. It’s no Heathrow. People go hunting with shotguns all the time in the same area. It would be firing into the sky in an area which, by chance, there are zero aircraft!

What’s the cost of a drone falling on a plane or radar after being shot down vs closing the airport for a day?


Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 20th December 10:56
So who are you going to give these shotguns to where are you going to position them? The range is 75m is it and presumably night time makes seeing them difficult?






The drones aren’t sitting in one place. They appear and then fly off when the police and operations vehicles try to follow them.
Are you trying to say police in the area dont have sufficient suitable weaponry? Everyone and their mum has shotguns around there. Im sure the police have shotguns.

Puggit

48,355 posts

247 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Now talk of keeping LGW closed for a further 24 hours due to this deliberate act. Well, the person carrying out the act has certainly won this round.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
ukaskew said:
I do wonder what planet some people are on…”just knock it down with a shotgun”

A moving target…at night…with a shotgun (or high powered rifle, equally stupid ideas). Let’s just get The Rock to do it whilst we’re at it, stood on the back of a pickup being driven by Jason Statham, then when the culprit is found Tom Cruise can chase him across the rooftops of Crawley.
Ever been clay pigeon shooting?
Ever been lamping?

You make it sound like no one can shoot moving things, even at night. You are trying to suggest a trained police marksman cant hit a 1ft wide target if someone shines a spotlight on it.

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 20th December 11:00
Clay pigeons aren’t remote controlled and flown away when the police see them.

eharding

13,600 posts

283 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
You are trying to suggest a trained police marksman cant hit a 1ft wide target if someone shines a spotlight on it.
I think you might have something there. All they need to do is re-designate the drones as autonomous robotic Brazilian electricians, and they're as good as dead already.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

99 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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sc0tt said:
ukaskew said:
I do wonder what planet some people are on…”just knock it down with a shotgun”

A moving target…at night…with a shotgun (or high powered rifle, equally stupid ideas). Let’s just get The Rock to do it whilst we’re at it, stood on the back of a pickup being driven by Jason Statham, then when the culprit is found Tom Cruise can chase him across the rooftops of Crawley.
hehe
It would be the greatest thing to happen in Crawley if we ever got The Rock and co to come and film here. Mind you, Tom Cruise pops in quite often as we have the big Scientology centre just down the road...

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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El stovey said:
p1stonhead said:
ukaskew said:
I do wonder what planet some people are on…”just knock it down with a shotgun”

A moving target…at night…with a shotgun (or high powered rifle, equally stupid ideas). Let’s just get The Rock to do it whilst we’re at it, stood on the back of a pickup being driven by Jason Statham, then when the culprit is found Tom Cruise can chase him across the rooftops of Crawley.
Ever been clay pigeon shooting?
Ever been lamping?

You make it sound like no one can shoot moving things, even at night. You are trying to suggest a trained police marksman cant hit a 1ft wide target if someone shines a spotlight on it.

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 20th December 11:00
Clay pigeons aren’t remote controlled and flown away when the police see them.
Oh come off it they dont fly at hundreds of miles an hour. Have you seen the videos of them from gatwick?

These arent those racing drones that exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sghXf4LjE0g

Thankyou4calling

10,595 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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I repeat. A picture of “The drone” please.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Are you trying to say police in the area dont have sufficient suitable weaponry? Everyone and their mum has shotguns around there. Im sure the police have shotguns.
Yes so where on the map are you going to position all these armed police?

The last drone was spotted 20 mins ago, appearing and disappearing from different areas. Just causing enough disruption to keep the runway closed.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

99 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
ukaskew said:
I do wonder what planet some people are on…”just knock it down with a shotgun”

A moving target…at night…with a shotgun (or high powered rifle, equally stupid ideas). Let’s just get The Rock to do it whilst we’re at it, stood on the back of a pickup being driven by Jason Statham, then when the culprit is found Tom Cruise can chase him across the rooftops of Crawley.
Ever been clay pigeon shooting?
Ever been lamping?

You make it sound like no one can shoot moving things, even at night. You are trying to suggest a trained police marksman cant hit a 1ft wide target if someone shines a spotlight on it.

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 20th December 11:00
That's what the Police themselves are effectively saying by NOT shooting it down. They don't think they can do it and guarantee not to hit something else if they miss.