Q FOR THE LEARNED GENTS .
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Theoretical Q for the learned legal minds .
Where exactly is considered a position of "in full view" for a document such as a blue badge certificate ,so that a CEO would be able to see it .My badge "advise s" placing it on the dash, but due to the increase of theft of badges, could placement on passenger seat be an acceptable alternative. Has there ever been any legal challenge to placement on dash over placement on seat?
Where exactly is considered a position of "in full view" for a document such as a blue badge certificate ,so that a CEO would be able to see it .My badge "advise s" placing it on the dash, but due to the increase of theft of badges, could placement on passenger seat be an acceptable alternative. Has there ever been any legal challenge to placement on dash over placement on seat?
Who me said:
Theoretical Q for the learned legal minds .
Where exactly is considered a position of "in full view" for a document such as a blue badge certificate ,so that a CEO would be able to see it .My badge "advise s" placing it on the dash, but due to the increase of theft of badges, could placement on passenger seat be an acceptable alternative. Has there ever been any legal challenge to placement on dash over placement on seat?
Where exactly is considered a position of "in full view" for a document such as a blue badge certificate ,so that a CEO would be able to see it .My badge "advise s" placing it on the dash, but due to the increase of theft of badges, could placement on passenger seat be an acceptable alternative. Has there ever been any legal challenge to placement on dash over placement on seat?
Pica-Pica said:
Seems clear enough explanation here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blu...
Perhaps Who me ? suffers from being hard of understanding? https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blu...
(Not sure you can get a disability badge for being hard of understanding though!)
By the way: Who me ?:
Drop the "?" from your use name!
The Pistonheads forum program is designed to accept letters and numbers only for user names. Characters that are not letters or numbers, such as your use of "?", cause an issue for the quoting system because they are not recognised as being a name!
(The only way I could quote your post properly was by missing out the "?" from your name)
As said above, the govt guidance is quite clear:
“When using the parking concessions you must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must still display the badge in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle. The front of the badge should face upwards, showing the hologram. The side showing the photograph should not be visible through the windscreen.”
A traffic warden needs to be able to read it. If you put it in a place where thieves or other baddies cannot read it or see it then neither will a traffic warden be able to.
“When using the parking concessions you must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must still display the badge in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle. The front of the badge should face upwards, showing the hologram. The side showing the photograph should not be visible through the windscreen.”
A traffic warden needs to be able to read it. If you put it in a place where thieves or other baddies cannot read it or see it then neither will a traffic warden be able to.
4rephill said:
(The only way I could quote your post properly was by missing out the "?" from your name)
Why should he change his username just to suit you?Once I had figured out why the quote function wasn't working properly when replying to his posts it was hardly an impostion or unduly onerous to move the cursor as necessary then use the delete key.
4rephill said:
By the way: Who me ?:
Drop the "?" from your use name!
The Pistonheads forum program is designed to accept letters and numbers only for user names. Characters that are not letters or numbers, such as your use of "?", cause an issue for the quoting system because they are not recognised as being a name!
(The only way I could quote your post properly was by missing out the "?" from your name)
He's known about that for a long time and obviously isn't bothered by it.Drop the "?" from your use name!
The Pistonheads forum program is designed to accept letters and numbers only for user names. Characters that are not letters or numbers, such as your use of "?", cause an issue for the quoting system because they are not recognised as being a name!
(The only way I could quote your post properly was by missing out the "?" from your name)
Red Devil said:
4rephill said:
(The only way I could quote your post properly was by missing out the "?" from your name)
Why should he change his username just to suit you?Once I had figured out why the quote function wasn't working properly when replying to his posts it was hardly an impostion or unduly onerous to move the cursor as necessary then use the delete key.
Why should everybody else have to keep deleting the "?" in order to get the quoting system to work correctly again, when the simplest solution is for the person causing the issue to change their user name slightly, to avoid confusing the system?
4rephill said:
Red Devil said:
4rephill said:
(The only way I could quote your post properly was by missing out the "?" from your name)
Why should he change his username just to suit you?Once I had figured out why the quote function wasn't working properly when replying to his posts it was hardly an impostion or unduly onerous to move the cursor as necessary then use the delete key.
Why should everybody else have to keep deleting the "?" in order to get the quoting system to work correctly again, when the simplest solution is for the person causing the issue to change their user name slightly, to avoid confusing the system?
Scrump said:
As said above, the govt guidance is quite clear:
“When using the parking concessions you must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must still display the badge in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle. The front of the badge should face upwards, showing the hologram. The side showing the photograph should not be visible through the windscreen.”
A traffic warden needs to be able to read it. If you put it in a place where thieves or other baddies cannot read it or see it then neither will a traffic warden be able to.
Perhaps we NEED a new sight test for parking wardens.NO MENTION on the paperwork I got with the badge stating regulations about placement of badge in car. It ONLY says badge must be CLEARLY displayed in car. That to me says in open view. If left on passenger/driver seat, that to me ,with the required standard of driving vision for holding a UK driving licence ( and presumably a job as a parking wallah) is where the parking bloke shouls be looking. Not to making cash, but to see if the badge has been displayed. I'd argue in court ( would a Good defence soliciter etc), that a badge left in a prominant position on a front seat, was in a position, where it could be clearly visible from and read ( assuming that the parking attendant had the visual acuity to read the badge from this distance) .I'd ask any of our legal eagles ( RD/BV) to produce proof that the badge MUST be displayed on the dash. “When using the parking concessions you must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must still display the badge in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle. The front of the badge should face upwards, showing the hologram. The side showing the photograph should not be visible through the windscreen.”
A traffic warden needs to be able to read it. If you put it in a place where thieves or other baddies cannot read it or see it then neither will a traffic warden be able to.
Who me said:
Theoretical Q for the learned legal minds .
Where exactly is considered a position of "in full view" for a document such as a blue badge certificate ,so that a CEO would be able to see it .My badge "advise s" placing it on the dash, but due to the increase of theft of badges, could placement on passenger seat be an acceptable alternative. Has there ever been any legal challenge to placement on dash over placement on seat?
First off, sexist thread title. Where exactly is considered a position of "in full view" for a document such as a blue badge certificate ,so that a CEO would be able to see it .My badge "advise s" placing it on the dash, but due to the increase of theft of badges, could placement on passenger seat be an acceptable alternative. Has there ever been any legal challenge to placement on dash over placement on seat?
Secondly, why is the badge safer from theft if placed on the seat instead of the dash if it isn’t less visible?
Guy I know who has a badge has got one of these.
https://bluebadgeprotector.co.uk/products/blue-bad...
https://bluebadgeprotector.co.uk/products/blue-bad...
ashleyman said:
Guy I know who has a badge has got one of these.
https://bluebadgeprotector.co.uk/products/blue-bad...
I'm thinking the OP was more concerned about stealing details from it more than the badge itself, putting it on the seat wouldn't prevent it being stolenhttps://bluebadgeprotector.co.uk/products/blue-bad...
4rephill said:
Red Devil said:
4rephill said:
(The only way I could quote your post properly was by missing out the "?" from your name)
Why should he change his username just to suit you?Once I had figured out why the quote function wasn't working properly when replying to his posts it was hardly an impostion or unduly onerous to move the cursor as necessary then use the delete key.
Why should everybody else have to keep deleting the "?" in order to get the quoting system to work correctly again, when the simplest solution is for the person causing the issue to change their user name slightly, to avoid confusing the system?
Who me said:
Scrump said:
As said above, the govt guidance is quite clear:
“When using the parking concessions you must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must still display the badge in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle. The front of the badge should face upwards, showing the hologram. The side showing the photograph should not be visible through the windscreen.”
A traffic warden needs to be able to read it. If you put it in a place where thieves or other baddies cannot read it or see it then neither will a traffic warden be able to.
Perhaps we NEED a new sight test for parking wardens.NO MENTION on the paperwork I got with the badge stating regulations about placement of badge in car. It ONLY says badge must be CLEARLY displayed in car. That to me says in open view. If left on passenger/driver seat, that to me ,with the required standard of driving vision for holding a UK driving licence ( and presumably a job as a parking wallah) is where the parking bloke shouls be looking. Not to making cash, but to see if the badge has been displayed. I'd argue in court ( would a Good defence soliciter etc), that a badge left in a prominant position on a front seat, was in a position, where it could be clearly visible from and read ( assuming that the parking attendant had the visual acuity to read the badge from this distance) .I'd ask any of our legal eagles ( RD/BV) to produce proof that the badge MUST be displayed on the dash. “When using the parking concessions you must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must still display the badge in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle. The front of the badge should face upwards, showing the hologram. The side showing the photograph should not be visible through the windscreen.”
A traffic warden needs to be able to read it. If you put it in a place where thieves or other baddies cannot read it or see it then neither will a traffic warden be able to.
The only exception is if your vehicle has neither (somewhat unlikely I would think). See page 9 here - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Failure to comply is a breach of the Scheme Rules: the issuing authority can, if it chooses to, withdraw your eligibility.
You should have received a copy together with the original badge issued to you.
Red Devil said:
You've overlooked a rather crucial fact. That username - without the ? - has taken by another member who joined later, so deleting the ? will not work.
As stated earlier, he is well aware of the problem his user name causes but is unconcerned about it. Probably a form of attention seeking.
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