Poor MPs being bullied outside parliament
Discussion
superlightr said:
Dindoit said:
A lot of words just to say "support".
Personally I don't support thugs, left or right-wing, marching up to politicians in the street and yelling words like traitor, quisling or Nazi in their faces. That goes for Soubry, Cox, JRM, Farage or any other public figure.
we are not talking about support the question should it be illegal?Personally I don't support thugs, left or right-wing, marching up to politicians in the street and yelling words like traitor, quisling or Nazi in their faces. That goes for Soubry, Cox, JRM, Farage or any other public figure.
how about Whispering - "traitor" or twofaced lier" as you walk next to them?
I’m amazed that what really appeared to be an easily avoidable, if not staged, incident could cause such outrage.
My first thoughts were that this is just one of what will become a series of ‘incidents’ concerning MPs in attempts to relieve the contempt that most of the public hold them in because of their recent shows of incompetence.
Dindoit said:
A lot of words just to say "support".
Personally I don't support thugs, left or right-wing, marching up to politicians in the street and yelling words like traitor, quisling or Nazi in their faces. That goes for Soubry, Cox, JRM, Farage or any other public figure.
Can I ask what is it about that particular situation you think is not acceptable or were laws should be apply?Personally I don't support thugs, left or right-wing, marching up to politicians in the street and yelling words like traitor, quisling or Nazi in their faces. That goes for Soubry, Cox, JRM, Farage or any other public figure.
Is it the name calling, Or the fact that they follow someone, or a combination of both?
If it's the name calling next time someone cuts you up in your car and you call them a name. Should they be able to have you arrested?
If it's following people and possibly even by being a big bloke that means intimidating. In which case people like bailiffs and journalists would be in trouble.
If it's both which is this case I believe it is then fine. But who decided the level? Is there are required distance or time of someone following you?
laws work well when there is a clear line with clear guidelines. As soon as you get laws that are ambiguous they can and do get misused.
We can all look at the footage and say their behaviour is wrong. But then you must think of the consequences of making laws or even how you would even create laws that would combat it.
And then if you do so then them laws must be used fairly and equally.
Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Saturday 12th January 16:37
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hstewie said:
His yellow vest protest marcher in London are wandering around, not sure where to go! https://twitter.com/_edwardcrawford/status/1084063...hstewie said:Joint Secretary of Unite Against Fascism calls on Teresa May to "shoot herself"
https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
rscott said:
His yellow vest protest marcher in London are wandering around, not sure where to go! https://twitter.com/_edwardcrawford/status/1084063...
How cringeworthy the British copying the French demonstrating with yellow vest on.Have we sunk that low that we copy the froggies?
El stovey said:
Raygun said:
How cringeworthy the British copying the French demonstrating with yellow vest on.
Have we sunk that low that we copy the froggies?
For the French it’s a source of identification. In the UK it’s all about health and safety. Have we sunk that low that we copy the froggies?
Say boo to the froggies and they'll s
t themselves.
Russian Troll Bot said:
Joint Secretary of Unite Against Fascism calls on Teresa May to "shoot herself"
https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
But THAT is different https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
irocfan said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
Joint Secretary of Unite Against Fascism calls on Teresa May to "shoot herself"
https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
But THAT is different https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
Funny how these "anti fascists" always seem to believe in using violence and intimidation against their political opponents
https://news.sky.com/story/man-arrested-over-alleg...
Since one of the perps has been arrested and bailed I assume the police will be doing the same to the extreme left wingers that barracked and crowded JRM off the lecturn causing him to abandon a speech he was giving at a university last year?
Since one of the perps has been arrested and bailed I assume the police will be doing the same to the extreme left wingers that barracked and crowded JRM off the lecturn causing him to abandon a speech he was giving at a university last year?
NoNeed said:
Raygun said:
How cringeworthy the British copying the French demonstrating with yellow vest on.
Have we sunk that low that we copy the froggies?
we will always be minor league protesters next to the French, they are the best in the world at itHave we sunk that low that we copy the froggies?
Russian Troll Bot said:
irocfan said:
Russian Troll Bot said:
Joint Secretary of Unite Against Fascism calls on Teresa May to "shoot herself"
https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
But THAT is different https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1084116...
If calling a MP a Nazi is an offence, then surely calling on them to kill themselves is too?
Funny how these "anti fascists" always seem to believe in using violence and intimidation against their political opponents
t1grm said:
Since one of the perps has been arrested and bailed I assume the police will be doing the same to the extreme left wingers that barracked and crowded JRM off the lecturn causing him to abandon a speech he was giving at a university last year?
Or McDonnell for his call for insurrection.Raygun said:
Gutless cowards when the bullets fly though.
Need to read a history book my friend.They may have been poorly led and a bit slow to modernise their forces when they needed to but they they certainly were not ‘gutless cowards’ when it came to the actual fighting.
Now, the Italians on the other hand...
t1grm said:
https://news.sky.com/story/man-arrested-over-alleg...
Since one of the perps has been arrested and bailed I assume the police will be doing the same to the extreme left wingers that barracked and crowded JRM off the lecturn causing him to abandon a speech he was giving at a university last year?
It’s a bit different though isn’t it. A group of big blokes, physically intimidating a middle aged lady (who i’m sure could look after herself, but that’s irrelevant )Since one of the perps has been arrested and bailed I assume the police will be doing the same to the extreme left wingers that barracked and crowded JRM off the lecturn causing him to abandon a speech he was giving at a university last year?
Scum, hope they make an example of them..
Jimboka said:
t1grm said:
https://news.sky.com/story/man-arrested-over-alleg...
Since one of the perps has been arrested and bailed I assume the police will be doing the same to the extreme left wingers that barracked and crowded JRM off the lecturn causing him to abandon a speech he was giving at a university last year?
It’s a bit different though isn’t it. A group of big blokes, physically intimidating a middle aged lady (who i’m sure could look after herself, but that’s irrelevant )Since one of the perps has been arrested and bailed I assume the police will be doing the same to the extreme left wingers that barracked and crowded JRM off the lecturn causing him to abandon a speech he was giving at a university last year?
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