Was Hitler really right wing?

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Randy Winkman

16,130 posts

189 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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anonymous said:
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Nice link. It's just so that some people can divide things up into "right wing good" and "left wing bad". There are some on PH who defend the right wing term like someone defending their football team.

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Nice link. It's just so that some people can divide things up into "right wing good" and "left wing bad".
Is that not exactly what the conflation of racism and liberal economics does, with the boot on the other foot?

Balmoral

40,891 posts

248 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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ape x said:
Name a far right party that isn't racist then.... genuine question...
How about the third largest political party in the United States, the Libertarian Party.

StanleyT

1,994 posts

79 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Smiler. said:
I though Hitler was Right Whig:
Surely he was Reich Wing?

Randy Winkman

16,130 posts

189 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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otolith said:
Randy Winkman said:
Nice link. It's just so that some people can divide things up into "right wing good" and "left wing bad".
Is that not exactly what the conflation of racism and liberal economics does, with the boot on the other foot?
Sorry, don't understand.




otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
otolith said:
Randy Winkman said:
Nice link. It's just so that some people can divide things up into "right wing good" and "left wing bad".
Is that not exactly what the conflation of racism and liberal economics does, with the boot on the other foot?
Sorry, don't understand.
Right wing bad, left wing good because somehow being a fiscal conservative is just like being a racist.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Nice link. It's just so that some people can divide things up into "right wing good" and "left wing bad". There are some on PH who defend the right wing term like someone defending their football team.
It's what Jordan Peterson calls, 'animus possession.' A popular meme is NPC.

Randy Winkman

16,130 posts

189 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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otolith said:
Randy Winkman said:
otolith said:
Randy Winkman said:
Nice link. It's just so that some people can divide things up into "right wing good" and "left wing bad".
Is that not exactly what the conflation of racism and liberal economics does, with the boot on the other foot?
Sorry, don't understand.
Right wing bad, left wing good because somehow being a fiscal conservative is just like being a racist.
Well I'm certainly not saying that. There's good stuff and crappy stuff everywhere. Some don't appear to think that though.

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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ape x said:
Lefties...



Ultra leftie..



..mind you, he is very comfortable with the Jewish community and is a cuddly, friendly sort.

Cbull

4,464 posts

171 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
Just to add:
Trump gets voted in. Says staggeringly vile things. People cheer.
Geniune question as obviously I've been on another planet. What are the vile things you speak of?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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anonymous said:
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Great now my internet history is effd forever. I misread it as storefront and thought it would be about roller shutters or something.

Dindoit

1,645 posts

94 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Would PHers like to tell me if they think that Hitler is primarily remembered for his parties economic policies or because of his fascism, racism, nationalism, war-mongering and persecution of minorities?
It’s genuinely hilarious watching them stumble over themselves to paint Hitler as a liberal leftie and whitewash his systematic extermination of millions.

At the same time it’s mildly terrifying when someone tells you to “read a book” because of course Hitler was only doing what everyone else at the time was thinking.

We’re a couple of posts away from HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG.

StanleyT

1,994 posts

79 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Dindoit said:
It’s genuinely hilarious watching them stumble over themselves to paint Hitler as a liberal leftie and whitewash his systematic extermination of millions.

At the same time it’s mildly terrifying when someone tells you to “read a book” because of course Hitler was only doing what everyone else at the time was thinking.

We’re a couple of posts away from HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG.
Of course we could argue that also the British Empire and Slavery never did anything wrong, their systematic extermination of millions just being in line with the zeitgeist at the time.

All context, point of view and situationalism, which as none of us was there at the time, we all have to rely on interpretation, fact and allegorical statements.

And they (Hilter, British colonial rulers, slave traders) all had marvellous moustaches so there is a common theme, as also is the theme that in the context of time, when the chips were down, at the end of the day, all things considered, not to rule any future options out, the masses of the time all thought that neither the slavers, the Imperialists, nor HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG.

I'm not an apologist for Hitler by the way, good PR man he was 9/10, moustache 10/10, strategic thinking 7/10, tactitian, 2/10. Donitz, now there was a Furher....if he'd have been in charge from the start we'd all be saurkraut essen und die Frauliens streicheln, tres Grobbe. Free thinking capitalist apparently.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Cbull said:
Geniune question as obviously I've been on another planet. What are the vile things you speak of?
Well clearly you have been if you have to ask.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Hitler/Nazi Party was a manifistation of the time. Hitler and the Nazis have little or no direct relevance in today's world other than an inaccurate label applied for effect/shut down or as a bullst description of any legal party.

It is a stupid as accusing someone of being "a little bit Carthaginian"

Right Wing Scum/Left Wing Scum, it all stinks.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Balmoral said:
Don't forget the Centreist Scum.
No such thing.

Balmoral

40,891 posts

248 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Er, joke.

(I should have used an emoji)

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Send the parrot to :


B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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kurt535 said:
That was great; I came out same as Gandhi!
Blimey........ I thought I was centrist


jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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The Dangerous Elk said:
No such thing.
Blair?