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aeropilot

34,588 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Digger driver has finally been nicked and charged on suspicion of causing criminal damage with intent to endanger life.

CoolHands

18,632 posts

195 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Did he intend to endanger human life? Self evidently not I would say since he could easily have swung it round to clump one of his mates if he intended to. Trumped up charge

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Did he just go postal or did he first inquire as to the whereabouts of his £600.

I can understand people getting to the end of their tether but if it was a bank problem (they happen) it seems like a massive overreaction, directed at the wrong entity, at least get the facts straight prior to a rampage.

As for people praising him, all a larf init, "sticking it to the man", yeah and his colleagues whose stuff got damaged, hotel staff who wouldnt be able to start their new jobs, anyone booked in the hotel and himself as I wouldnt employ the dhead.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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CoolHands said:
Did he intend to endanger human life? Self evidently not I would say since he could easily have swung it round to clump one of his mates if he intended to. Trumped up charge
There are people in the building while he is doing his Destruction Derby thing, and at one point he uses the digger to try to pull down one of the support columns inside the building.

There was also another point where he makes the ceiling collapse whilst two people were standing near the digger, and one of them had to be rapidly dragged out of the way of the falling ceiling by another chap.

I’m guessing those things alone warrant a charge of endangering life.

If he didn’t wish to endanger anyone’s life, he would have told them all to leave the building, waited until it was empty, then started his rampage.

But instead, he cheerfully did it while there were people inside.

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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I hope he gets 10 years. Bellend

Toaster

2,939 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
CoolHands said:
Did he intend to endanger human life? Self evidently not I would say since he could easily have swung it round to clump one of his mates if he intended to. Trumped up charge
There are people in the building while he is doing his Destruction Derby thing, and at one point he uses the digger to try to pull down one of the support columns inside the building.

There was also another point where he makes the ceiling collapse whilst two people were standing near the digger, and one of them had to be rapidly dragged out of the way of the falling ceiling by another chap.

I’m guessing those things alone warrant a charge of endangering life.

If he didn’t wish to endanger anyone’s life, he would have told them all to leave the building, waited until it was empty, then started his rampage.

But instead, he cheerfully did it while there were people inside.
It will be interesting to hear the defence, people can totally "loose it" beyond all reason if provoked and if life is tough he may have needed the money to pay for food / mortgage / rent not having the cash could be life changing.

Gareth79

7,668 posts

246 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
There are people in the building while he is doing his Destruction Derby thing, and at one point he uses the digger to try to pull down one of the support columns inside the building.

There was also another point where he makes the ceiling collapse whilst two people were standing near the digger, and one of them had to be rapidly dragged out of the way of the falling ceiling by another chap.
Yes, it's that he was reckless:
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/criminal-dam...
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/48/secti...

"(2) A person who without lawful excuse destroys or damages any property, whether belonging to himself or another—
(a) intending to destroy or damage any property or being reckless as to whether any property would be destroyed or damaged; and
(b) intending by the destruction or damage to endanger the life of another or being reckless as to whether the life of another would be thereby endangered;
shall be guilty of an offence. "



anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Gareth79 said:
Lord Marylebone said:
There are people in the building while he is doing his Destruction Derby thing, and at one point he uses the digger to try to pull down one of the support columns inside the building.

There was also another point where he makes the ceiling collapse whilst two people were standing near the digger, and one of them had to be rapidly dragged out of the way of the falling ceiling by another chap.
Yes, it's that he was reckless:
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/criminal-dam...
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/48/secti...

"(2) A person who without lawful excuse destroys or damages any property, whether belonging to himself or another—
(a) intending to destroy or damage any property or being reckless as to whether any property would be destroyed or damaged; and
(b) intending by the destruction or damage to endanger the life of another or being reckless as to whether the life of another would be thereby endangered;
shall be guilty of an offence. "
Yep.

The charge is appropriate by the looks of things.

Throw the book at him as far as I’m concerned. You simply cannot do things like that, for obvious reasons.


Oilchange

8,462 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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poo at Paul's said:
I hope he gets 10 years. Bellend
If he’s gaoled I hope he gets no more than 3 months and is released after a month...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Oilchange said:
If he’s gaoled I hope he gets no more than 3 months and is released after a month...
I would have absolutely no problem with that as long as he agrees to hand over every single penny of his wages for the next 10 years to pay for the damage he did.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Countdown said:
Earthdweller said:
Seems he was paid !

But an error at his bank meant the money went into his account on Monday rather than Friday

Bit of an epic fail

Only in self pity city !
Not wishing to be argumentative (for a change biggrin) but I can’t see how a bank error would delay the payment by ONE day. And when a payment fails it’s nearly always customer error, not the bank.

Also nobody goes Tonto for a payment received 1 day late - chances are it was several weeks late, they finally promised it by Friday, missed the cut-off time for BACS/CHAPS and his payment got added to the following day’s payment run, and that was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Although it was ott what he did there's too many shyster firms who make low wage earners wait for their money, it seems they get a kick out of being awkward.


aeropilot

34,588 posts

227 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Raygun said:
Although it was ott what he did there's too many shyster firms who make low wage earners wait for their money, it seems they get a kick out of being awkward.
Sadly, yes, this is the problem with the industry now, although I wouldn't go as far as to say, its being deliberately awkward, its the fact that the sub-contractor, of the sub-contractor, of the sub-contractor chain that now exists means that the guys at the bottom get shafted.
Being an old git, when I started in the industry 40 years ago, on big sites, the main contractor I started with direct employed almost everyone, and I can remember the lads all queuing up for their little brown wage packets at the site office every week.
Different world today, in many ways for the better, but in many ways much worse.


KingNothing

3,168 posts

153 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8047035/L...

5 Years 4 months in the clink to think about it.

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Seems to be a harsh sentence! He should have just had a sex change and embezelled £1.2M from them, get a nice little suspended then!

CoolHands

18,632 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Exactly. Someone else pointed out he should have stabbed his boss for not paying him, he would have got less

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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My guess is that he was sentenced harshly because what he did was a threat to numerous lives.

StanleyT

1,994 posts

79 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Can't trust maverick digger drivers.........."Ohhhhhhhhhhh, I gets me a shiney blue helmet Mammmmm" on a nuclear power station site...................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIFYAHjBPvs

Supposedly the disciplinary was in stitches at the video and the site guys didn't want to sack him....but the French EdF guys were not amused.