Student strike for climate change

Student strike for climate change

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wc98

9,378 posts

92 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.

Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
nope,that's not how it works. scientists propose something then it needs to be measured and observed to take place.

RobDickinson

29,169 posts

206 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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wc98 said:
RobDickinson said:
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.

Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
nope,that's not how it works. scientists propose something then it needs to be measured and observed to take place.
We have the measurements we have the models, the science is long finished.

irocfan

22,608 posts

142 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.
he said CONTROL he didn't say that we couldn't affect.

Edited by irocfan on Sunday 17th March 22:41

wc98

9,378 posts

92 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
We have the measurements we have the models, the science is long finished.
rofl

Randy Winkman

7,803 posts

141 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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smartypants said:
Randy Winkman said:
Do you not believe that humans can pollute rivers and seas with chemicals or the atmosphere with CFCs?
Define “pollute”?
rolleyes

Randy Winkman

7,803 posts

141 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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smartypants said:
Randy Winkman said:
Do you not believe that humans can pollute rivers and seas with chemicals or the atmosphere with CFCs?
Define “pollute”?
rolleyes

RobDickinson

29,169 posts

206 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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Another thread populated by PH fkwits and retards. I'm out.

You are the problem.

wc98

9,378 posts

92 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Another thread populated by PH fkwits and retards. I'm out.

You are the problem.
rofl i won't take any offence seeing as that appears to come from a gullible moron susceptible to scaremongering .go read past the headlines, you might learn something.

Not-The-Messiah

2,137 posts

33 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Diderot said:
And even more stupid is the belief that humans can control the climate.
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.

Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
Well we could now maybe do with actual honest answers to what we can do about it.

It's like we've got gangrene in both legs and people know something needs to be done. But seem to be under the understanding that it's just going to involve a bit of ointment to sort it out. When really it's going to mean someone's going to need to hack them both off with a saw.

nammynake

2,305 posts

125 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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wc98 said:
RobDickinson said:
We have the measurements we have the models, the science is long finished.
rofl
And have another rofl

deeps

4,825 posts

193 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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nammynake said:
wc98 said:
RobDickinson said:
We have the measurements we have the models, the science is long finished.
rofl
And have another rofl
...and another rofl


Are you a teacher Rob?

garagewidow

1,009 posts

122 months

Monday 18th March 2019
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The way I see it,we are at a fork in the road,

We either carry on as we are using increasing amounts of energy green,fossil or otherwise along with economic growth and if agw is real possibly accelerate our destruction.

or,

We decrease consumption,risk global economic decline and instability leading to war and possibly accelerate our destruction.


turbobloke

88,839 posts

212 months

Saturday 23rd March 2019
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French Doctor Slams “Instrumentalisation by militant extremists” Of Greta Thunberg as “Irresponsible”, “Moral Error”... “Neuropsychiatric State To Media Should Be A Crime”.

The line is that Greta Thunberg is being shamelessly exploited which “is playing into the hands of economic interests for whom climate protection is of little importance”.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/societe/2019/03/18/3100...


Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

12,129 posts

121 months

Saturday 23rd March 2019
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turbobloke said:
French Doctor Slams “Instrumentalisation by militant extremists” Of Greta Thunberg as “Irresponsible”, “Moral Error”... “Neuropsychiatric State To Media Should Be A Crime”.

The line is that Greta Thunberg is being shamelessly exploited which “is playing into the hands of economic interests for whom climate protection is of little importance”.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/societe/2019/03/18/3100...
I seem to remember a little blonde girl that was similarly weaponised by extremists. Can’t remember the name but she was taught to speak in a Blair-like manner.

Pan Pan Pan

5,795 posts

63 months

Friday 29th March 2019
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On a lighter note, it would be interesting to listen in on conversations between parents and their children over the matter of this strike for climate change, with parents saying we really support the stance you are taking. Consequently we will no longer be driving you to school/college/uni/ mates houses etc.
You will need to remember that you will have to start getting up earlier in order to get these places in time, (by walking and using public transport.) Also In order for you to get up in time, we will be removing the TV you have in your bedroom, so that you can get to bed early.
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
To really make it count you can forget holidays to other places, that require the use of an airliner. Those concerts you like going to are fine, but you will have to make your own way there, carrying whatever you think you will need to make it all fun, and don't litter the place up with all your bottles, rubbish and tents when you leave, Got to protect the countryside you know! smile

durbster

7,644 posts

174 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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Pan Pan Pan said:
On a lighter note, it would be interesting to listen in on conversations between parents and their children over the matter of this strike for climate change, with parents saying we really support the stance you are taking. Consequently we will no longer be driving you to school/college/uni/ mates houses etc.
You will need to remember that you will have to start getting up earlier in order to get these places in time, (by walking and using public transport.) Also In order for you to get up in time, we will be removing the TV you have in your bedroom, so that you can get to bed early.
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
To really make it count you can forget holidays to other places, that require the use of an airliner. Those concerts you like going to are fine, but you will have to make your own way there, carrying whatever you think you will need to make it all fun, and don't litter the place up with all your bottles, rubbish and tents when you leave, Got to protect the countryside you know! smile
I'm going to try some amateur psychology here. smile

This response is how your mind helps you cope with the overwhelming scale of the problem. You are creating a scenario so ridiculous so you don't have to confront the issue. Nothing can be done, therefore I don't have to worry about it.

Thankfully you're not in a position of responsibility and the reality is we can deal with the problem, at least in some way. We have the technology and it is improving all the time.

The main obstacle is the fact that there are corporate interests with a lot of influence and power that would prefer that not to happen, which is why this relatively straightforward issue has become a battleground in which people have become convinced that they are emotionally attached to coal, and are therefore prepared to fight for it.

andy_s

15,883 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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I think he's just saying 'practise what you preach'.

Diderot

4,133 posts

144 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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andy_s said:
I think he's just saying 'practise what you preach'.
yes Which of course not one of the resident alarmists does.

Randy Winkman

7,803 posts

141 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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durbster said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
On a lighter note, it would be interesting to listen in on conversations between parents and their children over the matter of this strike for climate change, with parents saying we really support the stance you are taking. Consequently we will no longer be driving you to school/college/uni/ mates houses etc.
You will need to remember that you will have to start getting up earlier in order to get these places in time, (by walking and using public transport.) Also In order for you to get up in time, we will be removing the TV you have in your bedroom, so that you can get to bed early.
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
To really make it count you can forget holidays to other places, that require the use of an airliner. Those concerts you like going to are fine, but you will have to make your own way there, carrying whatever you think you will need to make it all fun, and don't litter the place up with all your bottles, rubbish and tents when you leave, Got to protect the countryside you know! smile
I'm going to try some amateur psychology here. smile

This response is how your mind helps you cope with the overwhelming scale of the problem. You are creating a scenario so ridiculous so you don't have to confront the issue. Nothing can be done, therefore I don't have to worry about it.

Thankfully you're not in a position of responsibility and the reality is we can deal with the problem, at least in some way. We have the technology and it is improving all the time.

The main obstacle is the fact that there are corporate interests with a lot of influence and power that would prefer that not to happen, which is why this relatively straightforward issue has become a battleground in which people have become convinced that they are emotionally attached to coal, and are therefore prepared to fight for it.
I agree. An imaginary conversation between unspecified people in order to justify a "do nothing" position.

Evanivitch

5,699 posts

74 months

Saturday 30th March 2019
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
Reference?

The following article suggests that data server use is very close to that of global air transport emissions, but you've clearly said greater.

Not all data server use is for personal use such as social media and communications. It underpins our entire society and includes research and infrastructure.

More importantly, that power can be developed from alternative resources and major data centers are often located in cold countries like Sweden, Iceland and Norway. All of which also have relatively low carbon grids.

The energy wasted on bitcoin mining however is an absolute travesty.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/2...