Student strike for climate change
Discussion
williamp said:
Randy Winkman said:
Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.
On a school day? Whats wrong withthe weekend??Apparently, that part of London was at a standstill, increasing pollution levels dramatically.
Tankrizzo said:
Heard this on the radio this morning. The 17-year-old they got on to discuss it seemed very confused about what they were protesting for.
I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
Prediction correct. There was some chap on the news that had just come from there. Lots of kids being groomed into supporting Socialist worker placards, Jeremy Corbyn in, etc. Teachers are mainly lefties. Big issue with climate change is lack of education, so go back to school and get educated. If they want to do something about climate change then walk to school, stop eating Macdonalds and stop using your mobile phone.I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
FredericRobinson said:
The snowiest winter in modern record was since 2000?
My post mentioned coldest and snowiest winters, two factors and more than one winter.Try 2010 for the coldest December since short and meaningless nationwide records began 100 years ago according to the UK Met Office.
For snowiest alone it's more complex as metrics include earliest/latest falls, days with at least a flake, continuous days with at least a flake, max area at one time, deepest drift; and surface or remote sensing?
Try this from the same year as above (2010) for the most coverage in the shorter and meaningless satellite image record,
http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2...
And this from the winter of 2017 / 2018 sampling the coldest northern europe thermal representation image (inc over the UK) in the rather short and meaningless satellite thermal image record,
Moving back on-topic given the thread title...the idea back in 2000, or in any recent year, that UK winters would be warm and wet due to children not going on strike yet and taxes being too low, was and is utterly risible. However some people swallowed it and indeed some are still enjoying the peristalsis experience.
Edited by turbobloke on Friday 15th February 21:10
Hoofy said:
williamp said:
Randy Winkman said:
Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.
On a school day? Whats wrong withthe weekend??Apparently, that part of London was at a standstill, increasing pollution levels dramatically.
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Hoofy said:
williamp said:
Randy Winkman said:
Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.
On a school day? Whats wrong withthe weekend??Apparently, that part of London was at a standstill, increasing pollution levels dramatically.
If they're lucky
the kiddies will find themselves sitting next to Monbiot - flying about promoting his book telling people not to fly.durbster said:
From the responses to this thread it appears they've upset the exact demographic they were intending to upset 
I used the word "annoyed" but was then told be someone they were not annoyed. Lots of people in this thread don't exactly seem pleased though do they? What with this thread and the schoolgirl from Syria thread it's quite a day on PH for some people to not be annoyed, upset or offended. These kids need teaching a bit of reality which is sadly lacking in schools these days.
They should be made to live the lifestyle required to actually combat climate change.
The only fair way to do this is to calculate the co2 that in total could should be produced (which nobody really knows) and devide that by 7-8 billion.
It turns out if you live on the streets in the west you would be over the limit. Thanks to street lights, hospitals, schools, roads buildings, public transport and so on. Make these kids live that sort of life for a week. And then tell them to shut to f up.
They should be made to live the lifestyle required to actually combat climate change.
The only fair way to do this is to calculate the co2 that in total could should be produced (which nobody really knows) and devide that by 7-8 billion.
It turns out if you live on the streets in the west you would be over the limit. Thanks to street lights, hospitals, schools, roads buildings, public transport and so on. Make these kids live that sort of life for a week. And then tell them to shut to f up.
I remember (just) being at school in the late 70's and we were told there was an ice age coming imminently and we were all going to freeze to death - we didn't strike though, even as kids we knew it was b
ks.
The Clash even sang about it in London's Calling
Still waiting for it to happen...….
ks.The Clash even sang about it in London's Calling
Still waiting for it to happen...….
The kids are being brainwashed to believe it's someone else's responsibility to fix things like climate change.
If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
Salmonofdoubt said:
The kids are being brainwashed to believe it's someone else's responsibility to fix things like climate change.
If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
Wise words.If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
As a 'kid' myself (i.e. university age), the truth is that most teenagers are not especially political and want to get on with the usual business of making out and taking recreational drugs. However, every school has a handful of overtly political types who make Rick from The Young Ones seem like a prophecy more than a parody.
Most kids are not especially bothered by the laws passed down to them by government or the rules passed down by school, they just want to mind their own business and enjoy themselves, which is how it should be.
It seems a shame, though, that this is what passes for teenage rebellion these days. It began with the Teddy Boys, then Ton-Up Boys appeared, Mods and Rockers coexisted in the Sixties before Skinheads and then Punks came along, while a lot of the older subcultures went through a revival at the end of the '70s, making youth culture a very colourful and exciting feature of the landscape. It was characterised by leather jackets or sharp suits, pounding rock music and fast machinery... now 'rebellion' is dodging bath night, waving placards and possibly giving up wholesome meaty foods. Considering these protests are actually in line with government agenda*, what kind of pathetic rebellion is that?
My own political concern is with increasing legislation infringing people's freedom to do and act as they please, e.g. restricted use of certain vehicles, compulsory helmets on bikes, "hate speech" laws, social media policing, etc. Seems a much more natural thing for a young person to be bothered about. Mind you, if I could take the day off school to "protest climate change" I certainly would, the inverted commas being key.
Most kids are not especially bothered by the laws passed down to them by government or the rules passed down by school, they just want to mind their own business and enjoy themselves, which is how it should be.
It seems a shame, though, that this is what passes for teenage rebellion these days. It began with the Teddy Boys, then Ton-Up Boys appeared, Mods and Rockers coexisted in the Sixties before Skinheads and then Punks came along, while a lot of the older subcultures went through a revival at the end of the '70s, making youth culture a very colourful and exciting feature of the landscape. It was characterised by leather jackets or sharp suits, pounding rock music and fast machinery... now 'rebellion' is dodging bath night, waving placards and possibly giving up wholesome meaty foods. Considering these protests are actually in line with government agenda*, what kind of pathetic rebellion is that?
My own political concern is with increasing legislation infringing people's freedom to do and act as they please, e.g. restricted use of certain vehicles, compulsory helmets on bikes, "hate speech" laws, social media policing, etc. Seems a much more natural thing for a young person to be bothered about. Mind you, if I could take the day off school to "protest climate change" I certainly would, the inverted commas being key.
*Obviously. Kids learn about climate change in schools, and who decides what gets taught in schools?
The Mad Monk said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
The kids are being brainwashed to believe it's someone else's responsibility to fix things like climate change.
If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
Wise words.If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
You wouldn’t ask adults to give up today’s lifestyle which we have created so why the kids ?
Salmonofdoubt said:
The kids are being brainwashed to believe it's someone else's responsibility to fix things like climate change.
If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
Talking of brainwashing kids and travel to school, this is one of a set of quotes assembled by a group known colloquially as the North Wales Brunstrom Fan Club.If they give up their phones, tablets, pcs or whatever else they use that will mean less electricity and natural resources are used. If they walk and cycle to places rather than get mummy or daddy to drive them that would reduce emissions. They could skip McDonald's and go vegan too.
Teaching kids that telling the government to fix things is wrong. If there's a problem you want solving you have to try and engage with the issue not ask someone else to sort it.
Back in Feb 2004 George Callaghan as Schools Travel Plan Officer for Stockton On Tees Borough Council speaking on the topic of 'educating' students on travelling to school said:
Our aim is to brainwash a new generation.
School travel plans, very educational!Surely he was talking about hitching a ride in mum's or dad's V12
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