Shamima Begum...

[JuanCarlosFandango]

I see stripping her of her citizenship as a bit of a Brexit bonus. It may not be directly related but it is surely exactly the kind of responsive politics people voted for in 2016. Putting the national interest first. Even if the lawyers do want to wrangle about it let them do so while she is in a camp in Syria, not when she's here living on our taxes and causing more harm to people here.

[Pan Pan Pan]

It is like `someone' who quite likes the idea of joining a gang who rob banks. Whilst in their chosen gangs activities. a few bank guards, and innocent bank customers are killed, (some of whom were not even threatening the bank robbers in their disgusting activities)
Then the bank robbers are rightly caught and punished, but the `someone' in this case, feels she doesn't want to do that bit of what she signed up to, and thinks she can just come home, with no consequences to her actions. SHE signed up to it, despite being told not to, SHE must now take the consequences, Suck it up after all you got what YOU signed up for.

[Europa1]

Ian Geary said:

No one forced Javid to revoke her citizenship: in fact that action has been shown to be contrary to international law.

Has it?

[Pan Pan Pan]

Dindoit said:

Pistonheads: Islam is a barbaric medieval cult.

Also, Pistonheads: I don’t care about the death of a baby. I bet there wasn’t even a kid and if there was she deserved it.

She lost two previously, why weren't you commenting on those as well? Could it be that their loss is `actually' down to the backward, primitive and barbaric way those she chose to join conduct themselves? yet in the end she wanted to rely on the very culture, and technology, that the group she joined, was trying to destroy. Do you not find that perverse?

[CrgT16]

Dindoit said:

Pistonheads: Islam is a barbaric medieval cult.

Also, Pistonheads: I don’t care about the death of a baby. I bet there wasn’t even a kid and if there was she deserved it.

A bit uncalled for... the difference is I don’t have any issue with you practicing your beliefs alongside mine providing you tolerate my freedom and my choice to practice my beliefs in piece. Islam, certainly in more extreme interpretations is not like that. It actually promotes killing the infidels or kafir. How many Muslims can practice their faith peacefully in the western world? Most of them can. Can you say the same if you live in Saudi Arabia or Egypt can you build a church and practice another religion safely? I think not...

Islam is not evil but certainly the extreme interpretations are as the do not tolerate any others but themselves.

As for the not caring about babies.... nothing to do with Islam, as a whole we care about babies but only in our mind and I only say this because if the world or human kind really cared about babies and children they would not be starving in Africa or be used as cannon fodder in many wars. We are all hypocrites in this respect... her baby is of no consequence. We know stories of children starving to death in Somalia, Ethiopia, what have we done as an individual to actually help them... not much. Maybe we put a change in the pot for a “corporate charity” to “help” them when we go to Starbucks. The world is far from perfect or fair. I care about children and the baby that died had no chance but you can’t stop terrorists from breeding as you can’t stop people with no money to raise them from having more and more. The tragic demise of her babies is sad but she brought them in a world where the chance of them surviving was low. She did that, no one else.

[anonymous-user]

Sheets Tabuer said:

Her 3rd kid died

Fixed that for you.
Maybe she should give up motherhood or try contraception, shame her parents did nether.

[voyds9]

Dindoit said:

Pistonheads: Islam is a barbaric medieval cult.

Also, Pistonheads: I don’t care about the death of a baby. I bet there wasn’t even a kid and if there was she deserved it.

So a baby who I've never met and who hopefully wouldn't have affected my life has died, why should I care?

2015 1 in 370 babies born in UK died within first 4 weeks of birth, although sad for the parents and close family, they again have no effect on me.

I don't see threads on here for each one of those.

[Pan Pan Pan]

One doesn't have to virtue signal when a single baby dies in the (unfortunately public) position its mother put it into.

[Exige77]

Dindoit said:

Pistonheads: Islam is a barbaric medieval cult.

Also, Pistonheads: I don’t care about the death of a baby. I bet there wasn’t even a kid and if there was she deserved it.

It’s completely not the same thing.

[FNG]

Dindoit said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

One doesn't have to virtue signal when a single baby dies in the (unfortunately public) position its mother put it into.

I’m not saying you have to virtue signal. I’m saying this kind of thing is abhorrent

vkcs22 said:

Some good news at last. Hopefully she dies soon aswell.

So how about calling out that comment as abhorrent - which it is - rather than inferring that it’s some sort of collective Pistonheads view?

That comment doesn’t summarise or represent the vast majority of views about the baby in this thread it’s pretty fking low to try to smear the thread as though it does.

[Teddy Lop]

Everyone's argueing this way and that and the tabloids love a focal point but to me, she as an individual is a bit of a red herring, a symptom of the problem. The problem being what motivated a 15 year old kid to run away to join a terrorist cult, who might have helped and influenced her, and how widespread this might be.

[amgmcqueen]

What happened to the previous thread...?

[Jazzy Jag]

amgmcqueen said:

What happened to the previous thread...?

Triggered Trevor went all PTSD and ran to the mods.

[Exige77]

Teddy Lop said:

Everyone's argueing this way and that and the tabloids love a focal point but to me, she as an individual is a bit of a red herring, a symptom of the problem. The problem being what motivated a 15 year old kid to run away to join a terrorist cult, who might have helped and influenced her, and how widespread this might be.

Poor parenting and hate preachers able to sell their wares for far too long.

[voyds9]

Dindoit said:

Whataboutism

This thread is about this specific case. If someone’s first thought upon hearing about the death of a child isn’t “that’s sad” and instead rushes to PH to show their indifference/glee then frankly their moral compass is fked up.

You don’t have to like Begum to display some basic human decency.

With such a caring attitude I hope you don't post a thread for every single baby that dies in the world.

[biggbn]

Dindoit said:

Pistonheads: Islam is a barbaric medieval cult.

Also, Pistonheads: I don’t care about the death of a baby. I bet there wasn’t even a kid and if there was she deserved it.

Good summary, what an unpleasant place. I will certainly be more selective in my future posting. Some of the comments on here sink to the levels of those commented on. Embarrassing.

[Down and out]

biggbn said:

Dindoit said:

Pistonheads: Islam is a barbaric medieval cult.

Also, Pistonheads: I don’t care about the death of a baby. I bet there wasn’t even a kid and if there was she deserved it.

Good summary, what an unpleasant place. I will certainly be more selective in my future posting. Some of the comments on here sink to the levels of those commented on. Embarrassing.

Why click the thread?

[anonymous-user]

She isnt the only female from that arena to have been stripped of citizenship
Another two have also

[Exige77]

macushla said:

Down and out said:

biggbn said:

Dindoit said:

edited by moderator.

Good summary, what an unpleasant place. I will certainly be more selective in my future posting. Some of the comments on here sink to the levels of those commented on. Embarrassing.

Why click the thread?

It’s his thread and it started with a few sensible comments from him before the PH Chuck Norris’ waded in with their pathetic Secret Policeman’s Ball oneupmanship game.

It’s just a continuation of the previous thread that got deleted.

Hope this one stays on track.

Edited by dinosaur.mod on Sunday 10th March 15:34

[FNG]

biggbn said:

Good summary, what an unpleasant place. I will certainly be more selective in my future posting. Some of the comments on here sink to the levels of those commented on. Embarrassing.

Good post.

I’m doing it right aren’t I?