How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 9)

[Fittster]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Piha said:

Brexiteers keep telling us they're not interested in our glorious Remain marches, yet they just keep on bringing it up time and time again! They really can't help themselves.

Seriously chaps, just let it go if you think it's irrelevant.

Perfect.

Stop posting figures that are completely made up.

Made up figure? £350 million for the NHS each week?

[Piha]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Perfect.

Stop posting figures that are completely made up.

Let it go Jim lad, let it go!

[anonymous-user]

Fittster said:

Made up figure? £350 million for the NHS each week?

Once we leave you will find out.

[Fittster]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Fittster said:

Made up figure? £350 million for the NHS each week?

Once we leave you will find out.

We have to leave to find out if the promises made by Brexiters are true and not just random numbers plucked from the air?

[Piha]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Fittster said:

Made up figure? £350 million for the NHS each week?

Once we leave you will find out.

[anonymous-user]

Fittster said:

We have to leave to find out if the promises made by Remoaners are true and not just random numbers plucked from the air?

Changed it for you

[amusingduck]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Fittster said:

Made up figure? £350 million for the NHS each week?

Once we leave you will find out.

We've already found out that the BRB became true

Government sources said the increases, which would be paid for in part by a “Brexit dividend”, would amount to around £600m a week extra for the NHS in cash terms within six years.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/16/ma...

[Nickgnome]

isaldiri said:

On what planet do you think discards means more careful targeting rather than simply chucking over anything they can't sell and still going throug the same areas anyway? The aim might have been as you state but what matters is what actually happens on the water.

You could of course bother to do so reading up about the current issues if you are going to proffer an opinion on it.

I will take it that you do not know what the current legislation states or the new Eu proposals, so in reality you have no facts to add.

I suggestead that Steve contact fisheries experts if he wanted to know the actual position. Do you disagree?

[citizensm1th]

Piha said:

NorfolkInClue1 said:

andymadmak said:

Piha said:

I was trying to engage with the small but noisy Brexiteer protest in Trafalgar Sq on Saturday and they informed me that "all the football firms will be turning up" for Nigel's march in London. I dread to think what will happen when drink fuelled rival football supporters congregate in central London.

The small Brexit protest was moved along by police officers when one of them started verbally abusing and swinging fists at an elderly lady.

Cool story bro. Seems legit

I believe him because he mentioned an elderly lady, that dramatic touch to the story line almost had me in tears.......now where’s the link to the petition, this tragic story has convinced me to change my mind.......

Mind you, you would hope that any police officer who witnessed someone swinging punches at an elderly lady would arrest them rather than move them on, such an arrest would surely have been referenced/witnessed by the public and caught on camera
Such a tense flash point must have been noticed by more than just one of the million followers as it would be brilliant media fodder.....just saying...

Oh, and Piha, you’re well short of 500 words, also a little late......

Are you getting a little confused again? It seems to be a reoccurring theme with you.

NorfolkInClue1 said:

Oh, and we found out that 5m remainers have a valid email address but the other 11 million are either too angry to type or have switched to remain.

Maybe it's time for a nice cup of tea and a little nap?

NFN

[gooner1]

Piha said:

I was trying to engage with the small but noisy Brexiteer protest in Trafalgar Sq on Saturday and they informed me that "all the football firms will be turning up" for Nigel's march in London. I dread to think what will happen when drink fuelled rival football supporters congregate in central London.

The small Brexit protest was moved along by police officers when one of them started verbally abusing and swinging fists at an elderly lady.

Get yourself round your GP's mate, your nerves sound shot.
Oh, and give us a shout when you post the next embellishment of Saturday's Saga.

[Fittster]

amusingduck said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Fittster said:

Made up figure? £350 million for the NHS each week?

Once we leave you will find out.

We've already found out that the BRB became true

Government sources said the increases, which would be paid for in part by a “Brexit dividend”, would amount to around £600m a week extra for the NHS in cash terms within six years.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/16/ma...

There is no guaranteed extra money to pay for increased NHS funding from stopping our payments to the EU budget. Other costs associated with Brexit are expected to outweigh the savings.

https://fullfact.org/europe/does-brexit-dividend-e...

[SunsetZed]

gooner1 said:

Piha said:

I was trying to engage with the small but noisy Brexiteer protest in Trafalgar Sq on Saturday and they informed me that "all the football firms will be turning up" for Nigel's march in London. I dread to think what will happen when drink fuelled rival football supporters congregate in central London.

The small Brexit protest was moved along by police officers when one of them started verbally abusing and swinging fists at an elderly lady.

Get yourself round your GP's mate, your nerves sound shot.
Oh, and give us a shout when you post the next embellishment of Saturday's Saga.

Andy20VT can probably help you with that, he's got a senior doc living next door...

[anonymous-user]

To be honest what is the point of debating this subject.

None of us has any control over what is about to happen.

[Otis Criblecoblis]

gooner1 said:

Piha said:

I was trying to engage with the small but noisy Brexiteer protest in Trafalgar Sq on Saturday and they informed me that "all the football firms will be turning up" for Nigel's march in London. I dread to think what will happen when drink fuelled rival football supporters congregate in central London.

The small Brexit protest was moved along by police officers when one of them started verbally abusing and swinging fists at an elderly lady.

Get yourself round your GP's mate, your nerves sound shot.
Oh, and give us a shout when you post the next embellishment of Saturday's Saga.

I missed that one ! Even by Phia standards that's hilarious. I bet he dialed it back and deleted a bit about how Brexit voters had nailed a Polish man to a burning cross.

Do we have no sensible Remain voters who laugh at the loon end of the PH Remain crowd ?

[anonymous-user]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Fittster said:

Made up figure? £350 million for the NHS each week?

Once we leave you will find out.

Just Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

£350 million a week is £18.2 billion pounds per year.

Our net UK payment into the EU is £8.9 billion pounds a year.

I'll leave you to work out just how wrong you are.

Again, Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Helicopter123]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Piha said:

I was trying to engage with the small but noisy Brexiteer protest in Trafalgar Sq on Saturday and they informed me that "all the football firms will be turning up" for Nigel's march in London. I dread to think what will happen when drink fuelled rival football supporters congregate in central London.

The small Brexit protest was moved along by police officers when one of them started verbally abusing and swinging fists at an elderly lady.

Please stand in the middle with your remain banner and EU flag

ELUSIVEJIM - Are you trying it incite violence, again?

Edited by Helicopter123 on Monday 25th March 10:47

[Elysium]

Vanden Saab said:

Elysium said:

Give me an example of one of these 'extremist remainers'.

Are they in politics or wider society? What are they doing that is vocally nasty and uncompromising? How does that make WTO rules more acceptable?

I would also like to understand why you think WTO rules are relevant at this point where we are failing to agree a transition arrangement and terms of withdrawal, let alone our future trading relationship.

Well done, you have proved my point for me. If we leave without an agreement we immediately start to trade under WTO rules. That is not the end point but the start. It is not our problem that the EU will not even start to discuss future arrangements until we have left. If the WA and Transition agreement was anything but an attempt to keep us in I would be supporting it.
Extremist remainers ….. do you really need reminding?

You are not explaining your point very well. The withdrawal agreement does not define our future relationship.

All I see is a strategy to 'get out quick' based on fear that Brexit is not going to happen. That leaver fear is behind a great deal of the issues we see today.

And are you seriously seeing a moron who made an offensive tea towel as a driver for a no-deal / no withdrawal agreement brexit? There are morons on both sides of this issue.

Its incredible how rigid people have got in their thinking over Brexit. It really is like a religion.

[anonymous-user]

Helicopter123 said:

ELUSIVEJIM - Are you trying it incite violence, again?

Edited by Helicopter123 on Monday 25th March 10:47

Again?

Are you not mixing yourself up with yourself?

[Vanden Saab]

Piha said:

Andy20vt said:

Vanden Saab said:

Well done, you have proved my point for me. If we leave without an agreement we immediately start to trade under WTO rules. That is not the end point but the start. It is not our problem that the EU will not even start to discuss future arrangements until we have left. If the WA and Transition agreement was anything but an attempt to keep us in I would be supporting it.
Extremist remainers ….. do you really need reminding?

Edited by Vanden Saab on Monday 25th March 08:11

Extremist Leavers, proud to be associated with this sort of thing:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/br...

I was trying to engage with the small but noisy Brexiteer protest in Trafalgar Sq on Saturday and they informed me that "all the football firms will be turning up" for Nigel's march in London. I dread to think what will happen when drink fuelled rival football supporters congregate in central London.

The small Brexit protest was moved along by police officers when one of them started verbally abusing and swinging fists at an elderly lady.

Not sure what point you are trying to make. There are idiots on both sides of the argument.

[Elysium]

Turfy said:

Experts suggest c.300k people at the march yesterday. More sensationalisation and brainwashing from the Remainer brigade. I was at the "no war in Iraq march" and they said 1m people were there, no way. nowhere near as many people at the "stop the Brexit march"...

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/brexit-march-peopl...

There will be other estimates over time.

What is surprising is the obsessive attempts of some to rubbish the march and the revocation petition.

Lets say it was 300k people. That is a big number and its reasonable to assume that is only a small cross section of the people who support a second referendum.

Lets say 10% of the 5m signing the revocation petitions are false. Again, that is still a big number and its reasonable to assume it is only a small cross section of the people who want Brexit 'over with'.

I fully understand that many many more people voted to leave in 2016. I don't accept for a moment that there is any evidence that leaving is still the 'will of the people', 1000 days after the vote, when we know that Brexit will come down to 'a hobsons choice between no-deal', a withdrawal agreement under which we potentially never leave and a mythical 'soft brexit' that labour still delude themselves about.

The Brexit on offer now is not the one that was sold to the electorate. The electorate deserve a chance to decide if they want it.

Brexit is an utter mess.