How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 10)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 10)

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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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soupdragon1 said:
wc98 said:
Helicopter123 said:
Brexit: No deal means hard Irish border, says Selmayr

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47966180

GFA means a 'no deal' brexit will not be accepted by the EU or UK.
he can go and take a flying fk to himself."one of the most powerful officials in the eu" remind me of his route to that position, starting in his home country ?
Regardless of our feelings towards European representatives, we still need to look reality in the face. And the reality is pretty bleak looking right now, no matter what side of the fence you sit on.

Its seems the only solution at the moment is to make life st for everyone.
Yes, it’s awful. Inflation OK; high employment; low unemployment, reducing borrowing;

....other than that it’s all bad.

Though your last sentence is about right....that’s what the EU’s been about for quite some years now.


S1KRR

12,548 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Helicopter123 said:
I repeat, in case you are having some trouble understanding, Faisal has asked me not to post his personal number online, in full or in part.


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bhstewie said:
In one of life's little ironies The Brexit Party doesn't sound very democratic scratchchin

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/18/n...
Sounds more like he doesn't want momentum types signing up to oust him for sts and giggles. He may have the right idea quite frankly given the mess of Labour these days.

I also find it interesting that Guardian only mention "undemocratic" when its on the Leave side.

They haven't even covered Selmayr!



On a side note, how come your username isn't in breach of the rule about bypassing the swear filter? confused



Edited by S1KRR on Thursday 18th April 20:41

Randy Winkman

16,127 posts

189 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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REALIST123 said:
soupdragon1 said:
wc98 said:
Helicopter123 said:
Brexit: No deal means hard Irish border, says Selmayr

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47966180

GFA means a 'no deal' brexit will not be accepted by the EU or UK.
he can go and take a flying fk to himself."one of the most powerful officials in the eu" remind me of his route to that position, starting in his home country ?
Regardless of our feelings towards European representatives, we still need to look reality in the face. And the reality is pretty bleak looking right now, no matter what side of the fence you sit on.

Its seems the only solution at the moment is to make life st for everyone.
Yes, it’s awful. Inflation OK; high employment; low unemployment, reducing borrowing;

....other than that it’s all bad.

Though your last sentence is about right....that’s what the EU’s been about for quite some years now.
So are you saying that after 40 odd years in the EU, things are currently good or bad for the UK?

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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A disturbing one. Even taking this at face value (never wise with a poll) it suggests that we are no closer to a meaningful national consensus on Brexit and, without very effective political leadership, we are set to remain a divided nation for some time to come

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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S1KRR said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Helicopter123 said:
I repeat, in case you are having some trouble understanding, Faisal has asked me not to post his personal number online, in full or in part.


biggrin



bhstewie said:
In one of life's little ironies The Brexit Party doesn't sound very democratic scratchchin

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/18/n...
Sounds more like he doesn't want momentum types signing up to oust him for sts and giggles. He may have the right idea quite frankly given the mess of Labour these days.

I also find it interesting that Guardian only mention "undemocratic" when its on the Leave side.

They haven't even covered Selmayr!



On a side note, how come your username isn't in breach of the rule about bypassing the swear filter? confused



Edited by S1KRR on Thursday 18th April 20:41
Because it's factual, maybe? smile

S1KRR

12,548 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:


A disturbing one. Even taking this at face value (never wise with a poll) it suggests that we are no closer to a meaningful national consensus on Brexit and, without very effective political leadership, we are set to remain a divided nation for some time to come
I think its only because its on the news daily. Its constantly re-opening the scabs.

When we leave. Give it 12-18 months, people will adapt and politics will take more of a back seat in everyone's consciousness.

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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S1KRR said:
I think its only because its on the news daily. Its constantly re-opening the scabs.

When we leave. Give it 12-18 months, people will adapt and politics will take more of a back seat in everyone's consciousness.
Id like to agree but I don’t think this one will fade away that quickly; we have transcended the “a week is a long time in politics” rule. I suspect we are in for generational resentment on the EU issue, made worse when Brexiteers - or many of them - realise that leaving the EU is not a solution to their frustrations with the political establishment and the old chestnut that “whoever you vote for, the Government gets in” still holds true

Jazzer77

1,533 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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gooner1 said:
Helicopter123 said:
I repeat, in case you are having some trouble understanding, Faisal has asked me not to post his personal number online, in full or in part.
,

Cheer up Budge, quite a few of your fanbois are sticking with your, err, story.
Got to dash, expecting a call from Mrs Merkel. No not THAT Mrs Merkel, silly.
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I'm a fervent remainer and have crossed swords with Gooner1 before.

But....sod me, he's 100% right on this one...I'm embarassed for you H123.


Got to dash myself, JFK's on the blower...

S1KRR

12,548 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Id like to agree but I don’t think this one will fade away that quickly; we have transcended the “a week is a long time in politics” rule. I suspect we are in for generational resentment on the EU issue, made worse when Brexiteers - or many of them - realise that leaving the EU is not a solution to their frustrations with the political establishment and the old chestnut that “whoever you vote for, the Government gets in” still holds true
Cant speak for others

My vote to leave was never based on frustrations with National government. Only well known and long established frustrations with the EU.

A good idea run incredibly badly and to the detriment of millions.

Earthdweller

13,532 posts

126 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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amusingduck said:


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Brilliant smile

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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S1KRR said:
Cant speak for others

My vote to leave was never based on frustrations with National government. Only well known and long established frustrations with the EU.

A good idea run incredibly badly and to the detriment of millions.
+ 1

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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alfie2244 said:
S1KRR said:
Cant speak for others

My vote to leave was never based on frustrations with National government. Only well known and long established frustrations with the EU.

A good idea run incredibly badly and to the detriment of millions.
+ 1
what I still find weird is how "young people" seem so keen because the EU are not so keen on young people .

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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S1KRR said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Id like to agree but I don’t think this one will fade away that quickly; we have transcended the “a week is a long time in politics” rule. I suspect we are in for generational resentment on the EU issue, made worse when Brexiteers - or many of them - realise that leaving the EU is not a solution to their frustrations with the political establishment and the old chestnut that “whoever you vote for, the Government gets in” still holds true
Cant speak for others

My vote to leave was never based on frustrations with National government. Only well known and long established frustrations with the EU.

A good idea run incredibly badly and to the detriment of millions.
Agree entirely.

What's the UK's version of the €? TARGET2? Greece? The EU lurches from one crisis to the next, why would I want them to have any authority in how this country is run?

The way the EU has already behaved is enough for me to cry Just get me out! (hi stew smile) More of the same? No thanks! Much rather take the pain now, enough damage has already been done.



crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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amusingduck said:
S1KRR said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Id like to agree but I don’t think this one will fade away that quickly; we have transcended the “a week is a long time in politics” rule. I suspect we are in for generational resentment on the EU issue, made worse when Brexiteers - or many of them - realise that leaving the EU is not a solution to their frustrations with the political establishment and the old chestnut that “whoever you vote for, the Government gets in” still holds true
Cant speak for others

My vote to leave was never based on frustrations with National government. Only well known and long established frustrations with the EU.

A good idea run incredibly badly and to the detriment of millions.
Agree entirely.

What's the UK's version of the €? TARGET2? Greece? The EU lurches from one crisis to the next, why would I want them to have any authority in how this country is run?

The way the EU has already behaved is enough for me to cry Just get me out! (hi stew smile) More of the same? No thanks! Much rather take the pain now, enough damage has already been done.
Yup, that’s just about sums it up for me as well.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:


A disturbing one. Even taking this at face value (never wise with a poll) it suggests that we are no closer to a meaningful national consensus on Brexit and, without very effective political leadership, we are set to remain a divided nation for some time to come
Strong move towards remain.

MPs will be paying attention.

Wonderful.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Strong move towards remain.

MPs will be paying attention.

Wonderful.
If you are taking that poll seriously then you will be very disappointed.

Ridgemont

6,564 posts

131 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
ClaphamGT3 said:


A disturbing one. Even taking this at face value (never wise with a poll) it suggests that we are no closer to a meaningful national consensus on Brexit and, without very effective political leadership, we are set to remain a divided nation for some time to come
Strong move towards remain.

MPs will be paying attention.

Wonderful.
I’ve credited you before because you have correctly called the current situation: that Parliament would stuff the Brexit options. I am intrigued how your all seeing eye takes this nugget. Do you really see an eventual move to a 2nd referendum with a revoke option.
As a follow up I’d love to know what you think the impact to belief in a democratic process will be.

Toaster

2,939 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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gooner1 said:
Ah, Pelosi .
Remind me again who is it that is currently the U.S. President, and who , like it or not,
is probably going to be the next one?

While you're at it, could you also remind me who it is that has stated they want a hard border
erected? Couple of clues to help you along, it ain't the UK or the ROI.
Some in the UK couldn't give a stuff about where a trading border would have to go in the event we had a hard Brexit. So it is good to see others such as the US do not want to see a hard border between the north and south either

TeamD

4,913 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Toaster said:
Some in the UK couldn't give a stuff about where a trading border would have to go in the event we had a hard Brexit. So it is good to see others such as the US do not want to see a hard border between the north and south either
Wtf has is got to do with the US?

B'stard Child

28,387 posts

246 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Squiddly Diddly said:
crankedup said:
In which case if you are certain the mods looked at the issue of multiple logins I will not mention it again. I would hate to receive a ban for such a mild posting issue such as this when blatant trolling is evident virtually everyday. Maybe leavers don’t report such activities and take a more robust and less offended approach to forum posting.
BTW you do realise that I have never been banned from posting in all the years I have been a member using the same login from day one to now. Remove the insinuation in your last sentence.
You haven't lived if you haven't been banned at some point.

laugh
I've been banned for saying "foxtrot oscar" - seriously how easily offended do you have to be to press the report button for that.......

On the other side of the coin I've been called a on several occasions and I've not pressed the report button

I have pressed the report button many times when duplicate threads have been started or threads have been posted in the wrong section because that's far more important



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