Man jailed for sexual activity with fake 19 year old

Man jailed for sexual activity with fake 19 year old

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Frank7

6,619 posts

86 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.

ape x

958 posts

76 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.
Jesus man grow some nuts. Are you crying as you type this?

Jag_NE

2,949 posts

99 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.
The guy is a jerk Frank, with quite a track record. Retire to the lounge, pour a measure of premium vodka, and caress the stunning red head.

Antony Moxey

8,016 posts

218 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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SpeedMattersNot said:
ike I originally said, if you think 12 year old girls can look 18 you should be in prison (to protect yourself).
Why? If I saw a 12 year old girl and someone asked me to guess her age and I said 'Oh, I don't know, 17 or 18 perhaps?' then that means I should be in prison? What a bizarre train of thought. If I was of a mind to try and chat her up or go further then fair enough, but if you've no desire whatsoever to treat her as anything other than a human being with the respect that should go with that then why should you be locked up?

jeff666

2,314 posts

190 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Jag_NE said:
Frank7 said:
irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.
The guy is a jerk Frank, with quite a track record. Retire to the lounge, pour a measure of premium vodka, and caress the stunning red head.
Has someone been going Ape again ?

OzzyR1

5,694 posts

231 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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ape x said:
Exige77 said:
The insult is very clear. You are referring to someone who is clearly not a “ Peado” as a “Peado”.

You seem obsessed with this ?

Are you a Peado hunter ?

Is that your thing ?
Sorry the chap this thread is about isn't a Peado?

I respect the hunters and I think they are unfairly vilified. I am also pro vigilante action against Peados.



Edited by ape x on Friday 12th April 18:22
Not commented on this thread previously but for what it's worth I believe the individual who was the original subject of this discussion got the sentence he deserved. I agree that some kids can look substantially older than their age, but as soon as the victim opened her mouth it must have been bloody obvious that she was a lot younger than the 19 years she claimed.

What I do object to is your support for vigilante action.

I agree that if someone is a danger to children (or anyone else for that matter), it's better if they are off the streets where they can do no harm.

The problem is, in this age of social media, rumours spread like wildfire. It only takes one person with a grudge against another to put something on-line that suggests they are a nonce. A few people comment on it and suddenly it becomes big news on local Facebook sites and people are calling for the death penalty on the basis of the original post.

It's open to abuse and bloody dangerous. It could easily ruin the life of an innocent party.



Jag_NE

2,949 posts

99 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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OzzyR1 said:
ape x said:
Exige77 said:
The insult is very clear. You are referring to someone who is clearly not a “ Peado” as a “Peado”.

You seem obsessed with this ?

Are you a Peado hunter ?

Is that your thing ?
Sorry the chap this thread is about isn't a Peado?

I respect the hunters and I think they are unfairly vilified. I am also pro vigilante action against Peados.



Edited by ape x on Friday 12th April 18:22
Not commented on this thread previously but for what it's worth I believe the individual who was the original subject of this discussion got the sentence he deserved. I agree that some kids can look substantially older than their age, but as soon as the victim opened her mouth it must have been bloody obvious that she was a lot younger than the 19 years she claimed.

What I do object to is your support for vigilante action.

I agree that if someone is a danger to children (or anyone else for that matter), it's better if they are off the streets where they can do no harm.

The problem is, in this age of social media, rumours spread like wildfire. It only takes one person with a grudge against another to put something on-line that suggests they are a nonce. A few people comment on it and suddenly it becomes big news on local Facebook sites and people are calling for the death penalty on the basis of the original post.

It's open to abuse and bloody dangerous. It could easily ruin the life of an innocent party.
It’s always a certain type of loudmouth chav who seems to get disproportionately vocal about this sort of stuff. It’s like a deflection from their own crimes against society, or worse. I’ve seen convicted drug dealers get lots of love for donating to “paedophile Hunter” groups.

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

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15,077 posts

168 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
yes

Pretty much this



It’s very odd

irocfan

40,152 posts

189 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.
aye, I hear you there (and I'm surely not one to talk about not rising to the bait!) but it does strike me that there is a certain type of weasel who goes round stirring things and then cries like a bh to the mods to get someone banned from a thread....

Frank7

6,619 posts

86 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Jag_NE said:
The guy is a jerk Frank, with quite a track record. Retire to the lounge, pour a measure of premium vodka, and caress the stunning red head.
Jag, you have me worried now, is it you that has moved into # 48 opposite, with high powered binoculars?
If you can see into the freezer in the kitchen, you’ll notice I’m down to just shy of one litre of Stolychnya, then I’m reduced to one of Smirnoff.
BTW, Red’s got a 10.00 a.m. appointment with Veronica, her hairdresser tomorrow, she’s having the red mellowed to deep auburn, but I doubt that it will do anything for her fiery disposition!

Edited by Frank7 on Friday 12th April 23:57

Jag_NE

2,949 posts

99 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
Jag_NE said:
The guy is a jerk Frank, with quite a track record. Retire to the lounge, pour a measure of premium vodka, and caress the stunning red head.
Jag, you have me worried now, is it you that has moved into # 48 opposite, with high powered binoculars?
If you can see into the freezer in the kitchen, you’ll notice I’m down to just shy of one litre of Stolychnya, then I’m reduced to one of Smirnoff.
BTW, Red’s got a 10.00 a.m. appointment with Veronica, her hairdresser tomorrow, she’s having the red mellowed to deep auburn, but I doubt that it will do anything for her fiery disposition!

Edited by Frank7 on Friday 12th April 23:57
Afraid it isn’t, Frank. I don’t have the cash reserves to occupy a large plot on the bank of the Thames. Not now or probably ever. I must admit, I am surprised that you have allowed Smirnoff into the house.

AJL308

6,390 posts

155 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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The Surveyor said:
AJL308 said:
Unless she can prove her age don't shag her. It's really quite simple.
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Just a small detail in this sad case, but he didn't shag her.....

He behaved utterly inappropriately with a very young girl, but he didn't rape her or have consensual intercourse with her.
Same applies to anything sexual, obviously.

Exige77

6,518 posts

190 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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AJL308 said:
The Surveyor said:
AJL308 said:
Unless she can prove her age don't shag her. It's really quite simple.
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Just a small detail in this sad case, but he didn't shag her.....

He behaved utterly inappropriately with a very young girl, but he didn't rape her or have consensual intercourse with her.
Same applies to anything sexual, obviously.
Would it have been worse if he had shagged her ? Or “obviously anything sexual” it’s all the same.

Genuine question. Is there a hierarchy of nasty deeds or is it all the same ?

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Exige77 said:
Would it have been worse if he had shagged her ? Or “obviously anything sexual” it’s all the same.

Genuine question. Is there a hierarchy of nasty deeds or is it all the same ?
Yes there is a hierarchy of nasty deeds. I would say its borne out by the sentencing guidelines applicable to sexual offences.
Genuine answer btw

Jag_NE

2,949 posts

99 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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techiedave said:
Exige77 said:
Would it have been worse if he had shagged her ? Or “obviously anything sexual” it’s all the same.

Genuine question. Is there a hierarchy of nasty deeds or is it all the same ?
Yes there is a hierarchy of nasty deeds. I would say its borne out by the sentencing guidelines applicable to sexual offences.
Genuine answer btw
Adam Johnson fell foul of this. A cheeky finger blast is in the penetration category so not much worse than a full on shag.

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
Seems fair to me the law is the law. Nearly 30 and messing about with young girls, thought she was at least 16, yeh right. A nonce off the street is always good.
yes

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.
Seems it might be you that’s the problem after all.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...


Frank7

6,619 posts

86 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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El stovey said:
Frank7 said:
irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.
Seems it might be you that’s the problem after all.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Agreed, I couldn’t believe the flak I took for that, it seemed that although it was patently obvious that I wasn’t, posters were queuing up to say that I was okay with fact that a guy in a news report had been forced to bang 3 or 4 strange women every day.
All I said was that the average Joe in the street, hearing that a guy was banging that many women, would initially react with “lucky s.o.b.”
They might give it some thought, then say, well actually it’s just as bad as making women prostitute themselves, but the average heterosexual man’s initial reaction would be, “oh man.”
Gotta start thinking before posting in future.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

135 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Frank7 said:
El stovey said:
Frank7 said:
irocfan said:
let's be honest here Frank7 - there's a certain subset on here including one particular throbber who will try and twist everything to their own viewpoint. The best thing to do is ignore them - without the oxygen of responding the fktards will, hopefully, disappear
I accept that you make a valid point irocfan, but it’s extremely difficult to sit on your hands and shut up in the face of unwarranted and undeserved innuendo.
Seems it might be you that’s the problem after all.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Agreed, I couldn’t believe the flak I took for that, it seemed that although it was patently obvious that I wasn’t, posters were queuing up to say that I was okay with fact that a guy in a news report had been forced to bang 3 or 4 strange women every day.
All I said was that the average Joe in the street, hearing that a guy was banging that many women, would initially react with “lucky s.o.b.”
They might give it some thought, then say, well actually it’s just as bad as making women prostitute themselves, but the average heterosexual man’s initial reaction would be, “oh man.”
Gotta start thinking before posting in future.
I can't believe that you still don't appreciate that when you explicitly state that for women it's abhorrent, and follow on by posting things like "the man was 'forced' to have sex with", it is not patently obvious that you take the issue seriously when it comes to male victims.

You started the thread and repeatedly downplayed what happened to the bloke. If "All I said was that the average Joe in the street, hearing that a guy was banging that many women, would initially react with “lucky s.o.b.”" were true, you wouldn't have received the lashback you did.


anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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As I said then the baiting that Frank got was OTT and in some instances was little more than bullying.
Some posters are so pathetically invested in dictating to others they cannot see the problems they present