Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.

[And then she]

digimeistter said:

And then she said:

digimeistter said:

And then she said:

El stovey said:

digimeistter said:

El stovey said:

Brexiters were generally from lower socioeconomic groups than remainers

Really? Do you have anything to back that up?

Any survey taken after Brexit showed the same data.

Get out of here with your hoity-toity facts and statistics.

That was in 2016!

Add in the very disgruntled Cons/Lab voters to this cause, you will find a very different answer in 2019

Of course, you're right, that was quite a long time ago and maybe the public opinion on Brexit has changed since?

Perhaps we should have another vote, just to check, eh?

We are, on the 23rd I don't think you will find a better political barometer. Even having to have these elections is an utter disgrace, however it may just change the tide.

...so if the Brexit Party gains less than 50% of the vote, Brexit is off?

[alfie2244]

I hear those lovely Remain people are now employing disruptive tactics at the Brexit Rally in Wales...would it be all over the BBC if the other way round?

[christian-ohtc3]

Looks like the Liberal Democrat support is about to take a nosedive, I wonder if Farage encouraged Guy to pop over.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/10/guy-verhofstad...

[DeepEnd]

Piha said:

alfie2244 said:

Piha said:

steveT350C said:

Now over 100,000 members,

https://order-order.com/2019/05/15/brexit-party-so...

Although questions are being raised about the alleged membership numbers.

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/05/14/brexit-party-do...

Who the hell is Byline Times?

Nonetheless:

"UPDATE – THE BREXIT PARTY RESPONDS

The Brexit Party could not be more conscious of compliance issues, particularly around donations. Our system is clearly and specifically designed for grassroots activists and supporters. The vast majority of our funding comes from ordinary individuals who give small sums.

We hope Byline is expending as much time and energy investigating theoretical flaws in the operating systems of other political parties, and look forward to seeing the results of these inquiries.

Any actual evidence of anyone using our system to deliberately commit fraud will be dealt with swiftly and appropriately. For the time being, your investigation exposes nothing more than your bewilderment at the scale of voter support for the Brexit Party – and your determination to present it in the worst possible light."

From their response, it's quite clear that TBP don't deny the allegations.

Interesting. Odd that they request no details at all. Plausible deniability?

“...vast majority from ordinary individuals who give small sums....”

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It’s not like this lot have form, is it?

[Robertj21a]

And then she said:

...so if the Brexit Party gains less than 50% of the vote, Brexit is off?

You appear to have failed to include all the leavers who don't want to vote for Farage.

You wouldn't like us to think that all those clever Remainers are thick would you ?

[alfie2244]

DeepEnd said:

Interesting. Odd that they request no details at all. Plausible deniability?

“...vast majority from ordinary individuals who give small sums....”

[e-mail] £500
[e-mail] £500
[e-mail] £500

It’s not like this lot have form, is it?

Welcome back.

[Robertj21a]

alfie2244 said:

DeepEnd said:

Interesting. Odd that they request no details at all. Plausible deniability?

“...vast majority from ordinary individuals who give small sums....”

[e-mail] £500
[e-mail] £500
[e-mail] £500

It’s not like this lot have form, is it?

Welcome back.

I've lost track of who he was last time around.

[Cohen123]

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1128725218...


'Remain campaigners have just blocked the road to stop the public from attending a Brexit Party rally in Merthyr Tydfil.

This attempt to stop democracy from taking place is a total disgrace.

We would never behave like that.'

Exactly how desperate are the Remainers now?


Can you just imagine the BBC's reaction if it was the other way round?

Edited by Cohen123 on Wednesday 15th May 19:50

Edited by Cohen123 on Wednesday 15th May 19:52

[JuanCarlosFandango]

bhstewie said:

I'm criticising based on having listened to him on LBC most evenings and weekends for at least the last year rather than off the back of 15 minutes on the Andrew Marr show.

That said I've just watched the interview with Marr and from my perspective it's pretty much what I expected.

There's no substance there at all and you can see him get rattled when the going gets even slightly tough.

Snake oil leaps to mind.

What exactly do you mean by substance?

To my mind, every election I can remember has been fought over what I would consider far less substantive issues than Brexit.

I know health, transport, employment etc are all things which impact daily lives, but they are all simply a matter of tax and spend and a choice between more or less. Even the privatisation of the 80s and 90s were more a case of fiddling at the margins than a fundamental shift. The government would still guarantee the trains ran and the phones worked. They just outsourced some of the risk and reward.

Farage seems keen to engage on sovereignty and identity, and discuss where we are going as a country. It might not be a formed policy costed to the penny but it is substantive, and it is important. It seems the public agree.

[Piha]

Cohen123 said:

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1128725218...


'Remain campaigners have just blocked the road to stop the public from attending a Brexit Party rally in Merthyr Tydfil.

This attempt to stop democracy from taking place is a total disgrace.

We would never behave like that.'


Can you just imagine the BBC's reaction if it was the other way round?

Edited by Cohen123 on Wednesday 15th May 19:50

Delicious response from our "Methyr Rising" Brothers on faarages twitter feed.

[don'tbesilly]

christian-ohtc3 said:

Looks like the Liberal Democrat support is about to take a nosedive, I wonder if Farage encouraged Guy to pop over.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/10/guy-verhofstad...

Verhofstadt will be knocking on doors in an affluent area of North London to tell people that Brexit should be cancelled - alongside Vince Cable and his Liberal Democrat MEP candidates.

I'm sure he'll be welcomed with open arms, it's Remain Central

[FiF]

Vanden Saab said:

digimeistter said:

Cohen123 said:

digimeistter said:

I myself might fashion a broach*, if it goes as expected

• Brooch /obsessive pedant here/

It could be a broach if so minded to insert something with sharp edges into various yet to be determined orifices. Twisted pedant here.

[DeepEnd]

alfie2244 said:

DeepEnd said:

Interesting. Odd that they request no details at all. Plausible deniability?

“...vast majority from ordinary individuals who give small sums....”

[e-mail] £500
[e-mail] £500
[e-mail] £500

It’s not like this lot have form, is it?

Welcome back.

?

Because I’ve not posted for a few days?

Is there a rule you have to post everyday?

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Cohen123 said:

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1128725218...


'Remain campaigners have just blocked the road to stop the public from attending a Brexit Party rally in Merthyr Tydfil.

This attempt to stop democracy from taking place is a total disgrace.

We would never behave like that.'

Exactly how desperate are the Remainers now?


Can you just imagine the BBC's reaction if it was the other way round?

Brexit is very divisive. People feel strongly on both sides. Direct action is part of a healthy public discourse. Etc etc.

[bitchstewie]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

What exactly do you mean by substance?

To my mind, every election I can remember has been fought over what I would consider far less substantive issues than Brexit.

I know health, transport, employment etc are all things which impact daily lives, but they are all simply a matter of tax and spend and a choice between more or less. Even the privatisation of the 80s and 90s were more a case of fiddling at the margins than a fundamental shift. The government would still guarantee the trains ran and the phones worked. They just outsourced some of the risk and reward.

Farage seems keen to engage on sovereignty and identity, and discuss where we are going as a country. It might not be a formed policy costed to the penny but it is substantive, and it is important. It seems the public agree.

I mean substance.

Sovereignty and Identity are feelings not policies.

I've listened to 15 minutes of him with Marr and I have zero idea what a vote for the Brexit Party gets me in terms of representation.

Anyone can be angry and slag off politicians but if you want my vote I want to know what you're going to do for it, which doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to ask yet Nigel seems to get rather rattled by it.

The website doesn't tell me, Farage won't tell me.

If the only policy they have is "WTO" then fine, but they're going to be making quite a decent living off the MEP's salary so at least be honest about it.

The other parties are hopeless and I have to give him some credit for how he's exploited that fact, but when you take a good hard look at the bloke there's literally nothing there that strikes me as any different to the rest of them.

It's quite bizarre.

[And then she]

Robertj21a said:

And then she said:

...so if the Brexit Party gains less than 50% of the vote, Brexit is off?

You appear to have failed to include all the leavers who don't want to vote for Farage.

You wouldn't like us to think that all those clever Remainers are thick would you ?

Clearly irreverence is lost on you.

[Vanden Saab]

Cohen123 said:

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1128725218...


'Remain campaigners have just blocked the road to stop the public from attending a Brexit Party rally in Merthyr Tydfil.

This attempt to stop democracy from taking place is a total disgrace.

We would never behave like that.'

Exactly how desperate are the Remainers now?


Can you just imagine the BBC's reaction if it was the other way round?

Edited by Cohen123 on Wednesday 15th May 19:50

Edited by Cohen123 on Wednesday 15th May 19:52

Oh come on... If Brexiteers blocked the roads to any of the other parties EU election rallies no one would notice...

[Piha]

Cohen123 said:

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1128725218...


'Remain campaigners have just blocked the road to stop the public from attending a Brexit Party rally in Merthyr Tydfil.

This attempt to stop democracy from taking place is a total disgrace.

We would never behave like that.'

Exactly how desperate are the Remainers now?


Can you just imagine the BBC's reaction if it was the other way round?

Edited by Cohen123 on Wednesday 15th May 19:50

Edited by Cohen123 on Wednesday 15th May 19:52

St Nige wasn't very vocal when his mob were doing the blocking.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/transport/m1-...

[anonymous-user]

And then she said:

Robertj21a said:

And then she said:

...so if the Brexit Party gains less than 50% of the vote, Brexit is off?

You appear to have failed to include all the leavers who don't want to vote for Farage.

You wouldn't like us to think that all those clever Remainers are thick would you ?

Clearly irreverence is lost on you.

Clearly you don't understand party politics and.. dare I say it, Democracy at work.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

bhstewie said:

I mean substance.

Sovereignty and Identity are feelings not policies.

I've listened to 15 minutes of him with Marr and I have zero idea what a vote for the Brexit Party gets me in terms of representation.

Anyone can be angry and slag off politicians but if you want my vote I want to know what you're going to do for it, which doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to ask yet Nigel seems to get rather rattled by it.

The website doesn't tell me, Farage won't tell me.

If the only policy they have is "WTO" then fine, but they're going to be making quite a decent living off the MEP's salary so at least be honest about it.

The other parties are hopeless and I have to give him some credit for how he's exploited that fact, but when you take a good hard look at the bloke there's literally nothing there that strikes me as any different to the rest of them.

It's quite bizarre.

So which party does have substance for this election?