Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Do you think Andrew Marr is stupid?
I don't always agree with his line of questioning but I don't think he's stupid, and all Farage did was throw his toys like a child at mild questioning about totally valid things he's said and/or done.
I have my views on the chap, that's a personal thing, but considering how badly he stands up to any level of scrutiny or questioning whilst presenting himself as something different, the the fact so many people seem unable to see through that totally beats the st out of me.
i think his approach (marr) was stupid, given how many times it has been used, apparently to no effect, in the past. at some point a person is bound to get frustrated and annoyed at that. i want to know when they do. those good at hiding or suppressing their emotions worry me more.I don't always agree with his line of questioning but I don't think he's stupid, and all Farage did was throw his toys like a child at mild questioning about totally valid things he's said and/or done.
I have my views on the chap, that's a personal thing, but considering how badly he stands up to any level of scrutiny or questioning whilst presenting himself as something different, the the fact so many people seem unable to see through that totally beats the s
t out of me.you are making a big assumption in your last sentence. i think many have a fair idea of what farage is, but currently his party is the only vehicle available to leave voters and those that want to see the current two party stitch up brought to an end.
i have already said if the brexit party is to have any long term future the role of farage will have to be kept to a minimum but in the short term there is no better person to oppose what may is currently attempting to do.
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Piha said:
Otis Criblecoblis said:
Squiddly Diddly said:
Manipulation by Farage/Brexit Party?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7034355/B...
I'm surprised the electoral commission permits this logo.
If they put that logo on the side of a big red bus pointing at a polling station, I fear you may explode in rage. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7034355/B...
I'm surprised the electoral commission permits this logo.
Reading PH for yours and Phia's Brexit thoughts, is great comedy.
Here's another one worthy of your mirth.......
Edited by Piha on Thursday 16th May 10:26
Strange though, I’d have thought that those calling for a second referendum (y’know, a people’s vote) would take some comfort from the results forthcoming next week.
tumble dryer said:
There’s obviously an increasing panic spreading throughout the more vocal Remainers, throw anything at His Nigelness in the hope that enough/something may stick. (See Marr, for an object lesson in how to come away from conducting an interview with your, and your employer’s, reputation for “fairness” in tatters. We need more of this, just to remind us that beyond cleaning up our political system we also need a complete overhaul of the BBC.)
Strange though, I’d have thought that those calling for a second referendum (y’know, a people’s vote) would take some comfort from the results forthcoming next week.
You would think that the remainers would welcome next weeks poll as their second referendum/muppets vote but they seem to be strangely averse to it, I wonder why? Strange though, I’d have thought that those calling for a second referendum (y’know, a people’s vote) would take some comfort from the results forthcoming next week.
pgh said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Do you think Andrew Marr is stupid?
I don't always agree with his line of questioning but I don't think he's stupid, and all Farage did was throw his toys like a child at mild questioning about totally valid things he's said and/or done.
I have my views on the chap, that's a personal thing, but considering how badly he stands up to any level of scrutiny or questioning whilst presenting himself as something different, the the fact so many people seem unable to see through that totally beats the st out of me.
I watched the interview, however, once was enough, so this is from memory:I don't always agree with his line of questioning but I don't think he's stupid, and all Farage did was throw his toys like a child at mild questioning about totally valid things he's said and/or done.
I have my views on the chap, that's a personal thing, but considering how badly he stands up to any level of scrutiny or questioning whilst presenting himself as something different, the the fact so many people seem unable to see through that totally beats the s
t out of me.Farage objected to the line of questioning, based on it being irrelevant to major current events. In objecting he ignored (and Marr quickly moved on from) questions about gun control and something else I've forgotten.
Farage did answer the questions about HIV positive immigrants and Putin (quote saying he admired him as an operator, not as a human).
That Marr didn't actually push for answers to the questions Farage avoided made it seem to me like Marr was just keen to throw as much mud as possible. Farage objecting to the BBC failing to talk about current affairs (on a current affairs programme), didn't seem unreasonable to me.
I am no Jeremy Corbyn fan but his past history with unsavoury groups is constantly brought up by the press. A quick check on JC's PH thread confirms it is popular to do the same on PH. So, why does JC's past statements and associates continually get discussed and rolled out, whereas when St Nige's past comments are aired, his fanboy's cry foul?
pgh said:
I watched the interview, however, once was enough, so this is from memory:
Farage objected to the line of questioning, based on it being irrelevant to major current events. In objecting he ignored (and Marr quickly moved on from) questions about gun control and something else I've forgotten.
Farage did answer the questions about HIV positive immigrants and Putin (quote saying he admired him as an operator, not as a human).
That Marr didn't actually push for answers to the questions Farage avoided made it seem to me like Marr was just keen to throw as much mud as possible. Farage objecting to the BBC failing to talk about current affairs (on a current affairs programme), didn't seem unreasonable to me.
Sorry but the things you've said and done in the past are totally relevant as they go towards your character and your integrity if you're asking people to vote for you and the things you stand for.Farage objected to the line of questioning, based on it being irrelevant to major current events. In objecting he ignored (and Marr quickly moved on from) questions about gun control and something else I've forgotten.
Farage did answer the questions about HIV positive immigrants and Putin (quote saying he admired him as an operator, not as a human).
That Marr didn't actually push for answers to the questions Farage avoided made it seem to me like Marr was just keen to throw as much mud as possible. Farage objecting to the BBC failing to talk about current affairs (on a current affairs programme), didn't seem unreasonable to me.
Do you really think it's right for the bloke to make "that" poster and say the stuff he's said about various things and then to say "Why are you asking me this it's all in the past?".
Other politicians get a total slating, and rightly so when they try that tactic.
It's total double standards.
I don’t actually blame Marr. I blame his researcher.
The whole reason the interview was conducted at not talking about Brexit and the EU elections is because quite simply Farage is right.
I’m sure the researcher saw the Brillo interview last week and thought “Brilliant. I’ll try that approach.”
Marr came out of the interview looking a numpty.
The whole reason the interview was conducted at not talking about Brexit and the EU elections is because quite simply Farage is right.
I’m sure the researcher saw the Brillo interview last week and thought “Brilliant. I’ll try that approach.”
Marr came out of the interview looking a numpty.
TeamD said:
You would think that the remainers would welcome next weeks poll as their second referendum/muppets vote but they seem to be strangely averse to it, I wonder why?
Agreed, However, even if there is a glorious victory for Brexit / UKIP / Leave, the HofC will simply ignore it and try and push through The May Deal.Troubleatmill said:
I don’t actually blame Marr. I blame his researcher.
The whole reason the interview was conducted at not talking about Brexit and the EU elections is because quite simply Farage is right.
I’m sure the researcher saw the Brillo interview last week and thought “Brilliant. I’ll try that approach.”
Marr came out of the interview looking a numpty.
Agreed.The whole reason the interview was conducted at not talking about Brexit and the EU elections is because quite simply Farage is right.
I’m sure the researcher saw the Brillo interview last week and thought “Brilliant. I’ll try that approach.”
Marr came out of the interview looking a numpty.
If his , Marr's , researchers couldn't find evidence of Farage stating that " no deal is better than a bad deal" in 2016, they should be changed to those that could.
That's if they even attempted to of course.
steveT350C said:
To be fair, that is similar to saying a dose of thrush is more popular than ebola or leprosy!
steveT350C said:
After 9 years in opposition, how Labour can not question themselves with results like this is astonishing. A decent opposition would be wiping the floor with TM's Conservatives in government.Piha said:
steveT350C said:
To be fair, that is similar to saying a dose of thrush is more popular than ebola or leprosy!So what would be your medical approach? Who is squeaky clean and has the drive, passion and commitment to provide your desired solution and likely to commit to it?
tumble dryer said:
We need more of this, just to remind us that beyond cleaning up our political system we also need a complete overhaul of the BBC.)
Get rid of the licence fee and split the Corp in two; News & Current Affairs, Documentaries & Entertainment. Make both bits separately either pay per view or subscription. I somehow think they'd sink without trace.Majority of Europeans 'expect end of EU within 20 years'
Oh, and by the way, I didn't get this from the Express, Telegraph or Mail. Oh no, the actual Gruniad itself
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/majo...
Very interesting read. And probably explains why the EU want to make our exit as problematic as possible. Lots of lucrative vested interests at stake here...
Oh, and by the way, I didn't get this from the Express, Telegraph or Mail. Oh no, the actual Gruniad itself
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/majo...
Very interesting read. And probably explains why the EU want to make our exit as problematic as possible. Lots of lucrative vested interests at stake here...
SeeFive said:
Piha said:
steveT350C said:
To be fair, that is similar to saying a dose of thrush is more popular than ebola or leprosy!So what would be your medical approach? Who is squeaky clean and has the drive, passion and commitment to provide your desired solution and likely to commit to it?
Politics shouldn't be about an individual being popular but unfortunately it appears the opposite is true. Being popular, with populist soundbites and posters won't make our country better. Politics should be about being able to make decisions on what is good for the country, and clearly communicating those decisions to the wider electorate.
I would have some respect for faarage, if when he was/is a MEP he had worked to change the EU to how he envisaged the UK's partnership with the EU should be. He didn't propose any solutions apart from Leave. Brexit means Brexit...... Blah blah blah...... No solutions, plans or direction. Just populist bluster. If I'm correct, I believe that even Mde Le Pen has decided that working within the EU for change is better than outright Leave.
May doesn't appear to be a good leader or team player. But then she did take a poison chalice of a job, she knew that too but she was giddy for power. The tories supported her and voted her leader. Maybe every other tory MP knew she was doomed to failure.
Corbyn is at least consistent although I am personally opposed to many of his policies. He even backs up his dream of a socialist utopia with a manifesto!!!!
There are no politicians in the UK that I generally agree with. I do think some are better than others even if I don't agree with their policies (and it is good to disagree with politicians policies). Sturgeon, JRM, Corbyn, McDonnell and Lucas all seem dedicated to their cause. I do admire NZ's PM. Previously, I admired Mo Mowlem greatly. She did what was best for the communities she was working for, whether that was Redcar or Ulster.
Bojo? Gove? Cooper? Watson? Nope, not for me.
FPTP doesn't work either. It doesn't serve the country well.
UK politics need a strong course of powerful antibiotics. 2 party system doesn't work. I won't hols my breathe though.
All in my opinion of course.
Piha said:
That was about Corbyn being 2 faced not the Brexit Party.6 / 6 for me so what do I win?
alfie2244 said:
Piha said:
That was about Corbyn being 2 faced not the Brexit Party.6 / 6 for me so what do I win?
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