Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.

Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.

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dangerousB

1,008 posts

131 months

Friday 12th April
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Piersman2 said:
+1.

Both the UKIP and Brexit Party will only ever be voted for based on the 1 issue, exit from the EU.

UKIP has moved into the realms of the BNP since it's vote dissapated after the referendum was won. People will not vote for it now in any great numbers.

Both the Tories and Labour have demonstrated they can not be trusted to deliver any meaningful form of Brexit.

However the Brexit Party will now give those anti-EU voters the box on the ballet slip they needed.
+2

Totally agree. amongst hardcore UKIP supporters, Stephen Yaxley Lennon's involvement will go down well, yet I don't think his presence will bring them many votes they didn't already have. Transient supporters will migrate to Farage IMO

Jimboka said:
Every vote they get will be from the Tories & Ukip. Good work Nige smile
Totally disagree with this though. Every vote?? confused

Why wouldn't a previous Labour supporter vote for a Brexit orientated party?

Down and out

575 posts

5 months

Friday 12th April
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menguin said:
The tactics of being sane and not wanting the collapse of what little respect we had on the world stage along with a huge shrinking of the economy for years to come?
Sane? There you have it, same old.
Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.

272BHP

1,384 posts

177 months

Friday 12th April
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TR involvement with UKIP has made it too toxic for a lot of voters. Some would hold their nose and vote UKIP to give the establishment a bloody one but many wouldn't now.

Farage was right to start a Brexit Party but can he scale up in time and can it be done with sufficient vetting of potential candidates?

Edited by 272BHP on Friday 12th April 15:28


Edited by 272BHP on Friday 12th April 15:29

Down and out

575 posts

5 months

Friday 12th April
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Someone's been texting about shopping recently smile

Murph7355

21,765 posts

197 months

Friday 12th April
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FN2TypeR said:
Labradorofperception said:
rofl
Amusing as that is, I would imagine he could get it closed down - I believe parking like that is a no no. As would be assuming a logo as they have.

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Seventy

1,783 posts

79 months

Friday 12th April
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Funded by donations I believe.

menguin

3,466 posts

162 months

Friday 12th April
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Down and out said:
Sane? There you have it, same old.
Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
Many, many companies relocating as a result of Brexit. It's not theoretical or guesswork - there is plenty of coverage of it. Many financial institutions, Discovery channel, etc etc.

The proof of the shrinking economy will, unfortunately, come in time. I would be delighted to be proved wrong!

smn159

5,531 posts

158 months

Friday 12th April
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Down and out said:
menguin said:
The tactics of being sane and not wanting the collapse of what little respect we had on the world stage along with a huge shrinking of the economy for years to come?
Sane? There you have it, same old.
Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
Yes! Brexit will be glorious!

GLORIOUS!!

When is the next march?

.#backtothe1950s

wc98

8,406 posts

81 months

Friday 12th April
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Labradorofperception said:
i hope the remainiac end of those that voted remain take note. "Farage has unintentionally given birth to the biggest, most passionate pro-European movement this continent has ever seen. This is our moment. This is your vote. Use it".

getting out of bed would apparently be a good start smile

El stovey

25,755 posts

204 months

Friday 12th April
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Piersman2 said:
Both the Tories and Labour have demonstrated they can not be trusted to deliver any meaningful form of Brexit.

However the Brexit Party will now give those anti-EU voters the box on the ballet slip they needed.
I suppose it depends how important brexit is, and how they perceive it to have been delivered, to those voters.

I expect there will be plenty of people who voted leave that still don’t actually want a brexit party or UKIP in charge of the country.

It all makes it less likely one party (apart from labour) can win a majority in the next GE though.

We might even end up with some kind of labour-brexit party coalition. Image how that might work out.

wc98

8,406 posts

81 months

Friday 12th April
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mike9009 said:
I don't think this is a great idea for the 'Leave' campaign as it is likely to split votes between the Brexit party and UKIP. Thus it is likely to dilute the effect.

….but I have been wrong on many things before..... smile
won't make any difference in eu elections, they are pr based. there will definitely be less ukip mep's but given their direction post ref i think that might be a good idea. i would imagine they would still align with similar groupings in the eu parliament.

272BHP

1,384 posts

177 months

Friday 12th April
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Down and out said:
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Someone's been texting about shopping recently smile
Good spot!

wc98

8,406 posts

81 months

Friday 12th April
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chrispmartha said:
It’s almost as if Farage doesn’t think beyond sound bites and his rabble rousing...
unlike those currently in parliament that going by today's utterings have only just realised the implications of holding eu elections in the uk years after we voted to leave.

T-195

459 posts

2 months

Friday 12th April
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Down and out said:
Piersman2 said:
+1.

Both the UKIP Brexit Party will only ever be voted for based on the 1 issue, exit from the EU.

UKIP has moved into the realms of the BNP since it's vote dissapated after the referendum was won. People will not vote for it now in any great numbers.

Both the Tories and Labour have demonstrated they can not be trusted to deliver any meaningful form of Brexit.

However the Brexit Party will now give those anti-EU voters the box on the ballet box they needed.
It's quite nice to see the intelligent people employing the same tactics as before the referendum.
Fixed that for you.

wc98

8,406 posts

81 months

Friday 12th April
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Down and out said:
Sane? There you have it, same old.
Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
shhhh! better to take the b'stard child approach to this,just agree with everything said then vote the way you always intended. saves loads of arguing on here as well.

FourWheelDrift

76,723 posts

225 months

Friday 12th April
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wc98 said:
Labradorofperception said:
i hope the remainiac end of those that voted remain take note. "Farage has unintentionally given birth to the biggest, most passionate pro-European movement this continent has ever seen. This is our moment. This is your vote. Use it".

getting out of bed would apparently be a good start smile
I do wish they would stop getting the EU and European mixed up, they are not the same thing.

scoobster999

560 posts

131 months

Friday 12th April
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Coolbanana said:
Indeed, it is exactly what will happen; it will split the Gammony Frothers and help to maintain business as usual for the Conservatives and Labour.

Farage is the 'Pied Piper' for many in the UK but they will be torn between allegiance to UKIP and his new Ego Massage Project.
Queue the sneery down nose comments from the usual suspects. Oh, bang on time......have a biscuit!!

So in the context of the Tory party basically betraying their voters with the current remain path, Labour looking to tie us into a permanent CU, and self confessed remain from LDs and Change.

Enlighten me who leave voting people disenchanted by the shenanigans of the HOCs and our elected MPs are supposed to vote for. There is a total vacuum of viable choice, especially with the trajectory of UKIP towards right wing. As a remainer, fill your boots - any of the incumbents are remain!

For all the liberals sneering and hand wringing, the Brexit party is close to a lot of people’s views.

wc98

8,406 posts

81 months

Friday 12th April
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T-195 said:
Fixed that for you.
ye, just your ordinary run of the mill working class characters you will find in any town up and down the country "When Dave – which as far as I know is his real name, he’s just been employed for the job – is done and has gone, we retreat from the frontline to a nearby Costa, for coffee and pastries, to warm up and for Richard, Adam and Chris to explain themselves. Long-time friends, they work at management level for NGOs and charities."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/07/b...

irocfan

19,051 posts

131 months

Friday 12th April
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Murph7355 said:
Amusing as that is, I would imagine he could get it closed down - I believe parking like that is a no no.
must admit that this was my understanding too. That being said it'll take time to get them off that turf by which time it may have served its purpose

Labradorofperception

336 posts

32 months

Friday 12th April
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scoobster999 said:
Queue the sneery down nose comments from the usual suspects. Oh, bang on time......have a biscuit!!

So in the context of the Tory party basically betraying their voters with the current remain path, Labour looking to tie us into a permanent CU, and self confessed remain from LDs and Change.

Enlighten me who leave voting people disenchanted by the shenanigans of the HOCs and our elected MPs are supposed to vote for. There is a total vacuum of viable choice, especially with the trajectory of UKIP towards right wing. As a remainer, fill your boots - any of the incumbents are remain!

For all the liberals sneering and hand wringing, the Brexit party is close to a lot of people’s views.
On the basis that not all leavers are "gammony frothers" - which they clearly are not, not all "remaniacs" are wet liberal handwringers - which likewsie, many are not.....

I suspect that the majority are somewhere in the middle, either side of the political divide, and just fked off with the extremes of either side taking the stage, making the most noise and wking themselves to unconsciousness in a puddle of rhetoric and hyperbole.

On that basis, there's nobody to vote for.
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