Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.
Discussion
menguin said:
The tactics of being sane and not wanting the collapse of what little respect we had on the world stage along with a huge shrinking of the economy for years to come?
Sane? There you have it, same old.Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
TR involvement with UKIP has made it too toxic for a lot of voters. Some would hold their nose and vote UKIP to give the establishment a bloody one but many wouldn't now.
Farage was right to start a Brexit Party but can he scale up in time and can it be done with sufficient vetting of potential candidates?
Farage was right to start a Brexit Party but can he scale up in time and can it be done with sufficient vetting of potential candidates?
Edited by 272BHP on Friday 12th April 15:28
Edited by 272BHP on Friday 12th April 15:29
FN2TypeR said:
Labradorofperception said:
Who funds "led by donkeys"?
Down and out said:
Sane? There you have it, same old.
Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
Many, many companies relocating as a result of Brexit. It's not theoretical or guesswork - there is plenty of coverage of it. Many financial institutions, Discovery channel, etc etc.Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
The proof of the shrinking economy will, unfortunately, come in time. I would be delighted to be proved wrong!
Down and out said:
menguin said:
The tactics of being sane and not wanting the collapse of what little respect we had on the world stage along with a huge shrinking of the economy for years to come?
Sane? There you have it, same old.Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
GLORIOUS!!
When is the next march?
.#backtothe1950s
Labradorofperception said:
i hope the remainiac end of those that voted remain take note. "Farage has unintentionally given birth to the biggest, most passionate pro-European movement this continent has ever seen. This is our moment. This is your vote. Use it".getting out of bed would apparently be a good start
Piersman2 said:
Both the Tories and Labour have demonstrated they can not be trusted to deliver any meaningful form of Brexit.
However the Brexit Party will now give those anti-EU voters the box on the ballet slip they needed.
I suppose it depends how important brexit is, and how they perceive it to have been delivered, to those voters. However the Brexit Party will now give those anti-EU voters the box on the ballet slip they needed.
I expect there will be plenty of people who voted leave that still don’t actually want a brexit party or UKIP in charge of the country.
It all makes it less likely one party (apart from labour) can win a majority in the next GE though.
We might even end up with some kind of labour-brexit party coalition. Image how that might work out.
mike9009 said:
I don't think this is a great idea for the 'Leave' campaign as it is likely to split votes between the Brexit party and UKIP. Thus it is likely to dilute the effect.
….but I have been wrong on many things before.....
won't make any difference in eu elections, they are pr based. there will definitely be less ukip mep's but given their direction post ref i think that might be a good idea. i would imagine they would still align with similar groupings in the eu parliament.….but I have been wrong on many things before.....
Down and out said:
Piersman2 said:
+1.
Both the UKIP Brexit Party will only ever be voted for based on the 1 issue, exit from the EU.
UKIP has moved into the realms of the BNP since it's vote dissapated after the referendum was won. People will not vote for it now in any great numbers.
Both the Tories and Labour have demonstrated they can not be trusted to deliver any meaningful form of Brexit.
However the Brexit Party will now give those anti-EU voters the box on the ballet box they needed.
It's quite nice to see the intelligent people employing the same tactics as before the referendum.Both the UKIP Brexit Party will only ever be voted for based on the 1 issue, exit from the EU.
UKIP has moved into the realms of the BNP since it's vote dissapated after the referendum was won. People will not vote for it now in any great numbers.
Both the Tories and Labour have demonstrated they can not be trusted to deliver any meaningful form of Brexit.
However the Brexit Party will now give those anti-EU voters the box on the ballet box they needed.
Down and out said:
Sane? There you have it, same old.
Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
shhhh! better to take the b'stard child approach to this,just agree with everything said then vote the way you always intended. saves loads of arguing on here as well.Shrinking economy? Prove it, you have no idea, pure guesswork along with 500k job losses, will you ever learn? But carry on.
wc98 said:
Labradorofperception said:
i hope the remainiac end of those that voted remain take note. "Farage has unintentionally given birth to the biggest, most passionate pro-European movement this continent has ever seen. This is our moment. This is your vote. Use it".getting out of bed would apparently be a good start
Coolbanana said:
Indeed, it is exactly what will happen; it will split the Gammony Frothers and help to maintain business as usual for the Conservatives and Labour.
Farage is the 'Pied Piper' for many in the UK but they will be torn between allegiance to UKIP and his new Ego Massage Project.
Queue the sneery down nose comments from the usual suspects. Oh, bang on time......have a biscuit!!Farage is the 'Pied Piper' for many in the UK but they will be torn between allegiance to UKIP and his new Ego Massage Project.
So in the context of the Tory party basically betraying their voters with the current remain path, Labour looking to tie us into a permanent CU, and self confessed remain from LDs and Change.
Enlighten me who leave voting people disenchanted by the shenanigans of the HOCs and our elected MPs are supposed to vote for. There is a total vacuum of viable choice, especially with the trajectory of UKIP towards right wing. As a remainer, fill your boots - any of the incumbents are remain!
For all the liberals sneering and hand wringing, the Brexit party is close to a lot of people’s views.
T-195 said:
Fixed that for you.
ye, just your ordinary run of the mill working class characters you will find in any town up and down the country "When Dave – which as far as I know is his real name, he’s just been employed for the job – is done and has gone, we retreat from the frontline to a nearby Costa, for coffee and pastries, to warm up and for Richard, Adam and Chris to explain themselves. Long-time friends, they work at management level for NGOs and charities."https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/07/b...
scoobster999 said:
Queue the sneery down nose comments from the usual suspects. Oh, bang on time......have a biscuit!!
So in the context of the Tory party basically betraying their voters with the current remain path, Labour looking to tie us into a permanent CU, and self confessed remain from LDs and Change.
Enlighten me who leave voting people disenchanted by the shenanigans of the HOCs and our elected MPs are supposed to vote for. There is a total vacuum of viable choice, especially with the trajectory of UKIP towards right wing. As a remainer, fill your boots - any of the incumbents are remain!
For all the liberals sneering and hand wringing, the Brexit party is close to a lot of people’s views.
On the basis that not all leavers are "gammony frothers" - which they clearly are not, not all "remaniacs" are wet liberal handwringers - which likewsie, many are not..... So in the context of the Tory party basically betraying their voters with the current remain path, Labour looking to tie us into a permanent CU, and self confessed remain from LDs and Change.
Enlighten me who leave voting people disenchanted by the shenanigans of the HOCs and our elected MPs are supposed to vote for. There is a total vacuum of viable choice, especially with the trajectory of UKIP towards right wing. As a remainer, fill your boots - any of the incumbents are remain!
For all the liberals sneering and hand wringing, the Brexit party is close to a lot of people’s views.
I suspect that the majority are somewhere in the middle, either side of the political divide, and just fked off with the extremes of either side taking the stage, making the most noise and wking themselves to unconsciousness in a puddle of rhetoric and hyperbole.
On that basis, there's nobody to vote for.
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