Climate protesters block roads
Discussion
kev1974 said:
Sounds like the public (or some of them anyway) in Cambridge starting to get fed up
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
Babies used as human shields...despicable.https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-ne...
article said:
Protesters claim they were threatened with an acid attack and on another occasion they said a man was "verbally abusive" to them at the blockade.
“It was one person, he was masked up,” Miriam said. “He was quite unhappy – he was angry and threatening and seemed like he might be ready to be in a physical fight with someone if they were to say the wrong thing.
“It was scary, it was frightening, it was traumatising. There is a very young baby on site so that can cause quite a lot of unrest very, very quickly when we know there are young kids around.
“It was one person, he was masked up,” Miriam said. “He was quite unhappy – he was angry and threatening and seemed like he might be ready to be in a physical fight with someone if they were to say the wrong thing.
“It was scary, it was frightening, it was traumatising. There is a very young baby on site so that can cause quite a lot of unrest very, very quickly when we know there are young kids around.
Langweilig said:
The stinky rebels clearly can't understand that people are fed up with their "protests". After the pummelling they were given in Canning Town, they're more stupid than I thought. As for asking the media to "moderate reports", well?
Trying (and hopefully failing) to control the media is standard operating procedure for organised climate extremists/alarmists with their own agenda. XR has already camped outside the BBC demanding they mirror XR alarmism in their coverage. Hardly necessary - preaching to the converted - but good PR.Sane Cambridge Councillor said:
The ridiculous police and council strategy seems to be that, by closing the roads and diverting traffic themselves, the actions of XR are no longer illegal, so they don’t have to do anything. Heaven forbid some dons’ children get arrested. If kids from the Arbury [Cambridge’s big council estate] tried this they would be straight in the slammer. What a joke!
Murph7355 said:
turbobloke said:
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Cambridge police are losing the plot.
Totally agree - I can't believe they think this is acceptable. (Unless they've herded them onto Acacia cul-de-sac and they're not actually interrupting anything).Cambridge police are losing the plot.
The irony of protests that are likely to cause pollution generating congestion though us amusing.
Europa1 said:
As to their demand for the University (the biggest employer in Cambride) to sever all ties with the oil industry, I must commend the response of Andrew Parker, Principal Bursar at St John's College Oxford, when faced with a similar demand from some students occupying its quad: "I am not able to arrange any divestment at short notice. But I can arrange for the gas central heating in college to be switched off with immediate effect. Please let me know if you support this proposal."
Good response by the bursar. Should have taken it further - we'll turn off all heating and power, and will get back to you all in a month or so once we've hand calculated and written what your new fees will be to take up the slack.I wonder when all of this nonsense will come to a head...it can't be too far off now.
AJL308 said:
Murph7355 said:
turbobloke said:
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Cambridge police are losing the plot.
Totally agree - I can't believe they think this is acceptable. (Unless they've herded them onto Acacia cul-de-sac and they're not actually interrupting anything).Cambridge police are losing the plot.
The irony of protests that are likely to cause pollution generating congestion though us amusing.
Europa1 said:
As to their demand for the University (the biggest employer in Cambride) to sever all ties with the oil industry, I must commend the response of Andrew Parker, Principal Bursar at St John's College Oxford, when faced with a similar demand from some students occupying its quad: "I am not able to arrange any divestment at short notice. But I can arrange for the gas central heating in college to be switched off with immediate effect. Please let me know if you support this proposal."
Good response by the bursar. Should have taken it further - we'll turn off all heating and power, and will get back to you all in a month or so once we've hand calculated and written what your new fees will be to take up the slack.I wonder when all of this nonsense will come to a head...it can't be too far off now.
Greendubber said:
essayer said:
Greendubber said:
Trinity College didn't make a complaint of criminal damage apparently.
Why does that matter?There is no crime.
AJL308 said:
Greendubber said:
essayer said:
Greendubber said:
Trinity College didn't make a complaint of criminal damage apparently.
Why does that matter?There is no crime.
Langweilig said:
I wonder what the carbon "footprint" of those expensive looking trainers is? Langweilig said:
Presumably they already have official permission for whatever it may be.Even more energetic dance routines in a brighter shade of red?
Even more surly expressions in photo opps with onside Labour politicians?
turbobloke said:
AJL308 said:
Greendubber said:
essayer said:
Greendubber said:
Trinity College didn't make a complaint of criminal damage apparently.
Why does that matter?There is no crime.
Greendubber said:
turbobloke said:
AJL308 said:
Greendubber said:
essayer said:
Greendubber said:
Trinity College didn't make a complaint of criminal damage apparently.
Why does that matter?There is no crime.
Police (not you personally) need to step up with protest policing. Tea and biscuits involving XR, the Council, the MP and police hasn't cut it in case you didn't notice.
jakesmith said:
If they are breaking the law then why does their right to protest still apply? Surely protest has to be legal. Otherwise the old bill are effectively respecting the criminals right to break the law and putting it above the right of the law a abiding citizen to go about their business. It’s not right.
I've said the same thing over and over again over the course of decades; anyone with a grudge against the state, government or society in general seems to think that the word "protest" has the same meaning as obstructing, blocking, stopping, preventing, diverting or inconveniencing everyone else from going about their lawful daily lives. They think it means that as long as you have a grievance and you can get a few mates with a similar grievance to join you then they have the absolute right to f
k off everyone else.Sorry fella's but it doesn't. To "protest" is just that - to voice on objection to something you hold a differing opinion on. It is that and only that. Nothing more.
These are NOT protests. They are organised instances of illegal behavior intended to harm the well-being of others even if it only harms them a little bit. Unless they are lawfully organised and licensed and abide by the terms of their event licences then the media should not refer to them as protests. They are illegal gatherings designed and intended to adversely affect the lives of others.
turbobloke said:
Greendubber said:
turbobloke said:
AJL308 said:
Greendubber said:
essayer said:
Greendubber said:
Trinity College didn't make a complaint of criminal damage apparently.
Why does that matter?There is no crime.
Police (not you personally) need to step up with protest policing. Tea and biscuits involving XR, the Council, the MP and police hasn't cut it in case you didn't notice.
A minor infringement as a result of the protest is going to trigger their human rights. Leaving a mess, blocking the roads for a short while because of numbers. But there is nothing that permits breaking a law as a protest.
This was announced as blocking the roads. As I said at that point they could be dealt with for encouraging the commission of an offence before it even started. Cambridge, it appears decided to close the roads to diffuse the situation and mean no laws were broken. Personally I doubt I would have gone that way. There are local priorities and a peaceful protest which does not escalate is far from the worst outcome.
Police dragging families, young people and the vulnerable off, whilst lawful, can backfire in terms of the protesters getting public support, increased numbers and days to make the headlines in the courts.
This was announced as blocking the roads. As I said at that point they could be dealt with for encouraging the commission of an offence before it even started. Cambridge, it appears decided to close the roads to diffuse the situation and mean no laws were broken. Personally I doubt I would have gone that way. There are local priorities and a peaceful protest which does not escalate is far from the worst outcome.
Police dragging families, young people and the vulnerable off, whilst lawful, can backfire in terms of the protesters getting public support, increased numbers and days to make the headlines in the courts.
AJL308 said:
XR are not an environmental protest group though. They are a radical Anarchist group who hold the express desire to "bring down" Western society.
Pains me that people still don't get this!!Was funny, watched a documentary last week following XR as the organised the London protests. It was full of well financed young Oxbridge types with s
t names. Floppy haired, John Lennon glasses wearing skinny little revolutionaries who would eventually retire to Daddy's estate having saved the world.s.Greendubber said:
Agammemnon said:
And the blocking of roads for their protest?
Happens all the time, roads get closed for all sorts of events and protests. Just because its XR and they're not very popular doesn't mean it cant and wont happen.Conditions should be put on them, time, duration etc.. as long as those are adhered to then it's fine but still a massive pain in the hole.
AJL308 said:
Greendubber said:
Agammemnon said:
And the blocking of roads for their protest?
Happens all the time, roads get closed for all sorts of events and protests. Just because its XR and they're not very popular doesn't mean it cant and wont happen.Conditions should be put on them, time, duration etc.. as long as those are adhered to then it's fine but still a massive pain in the hole.
Greendubber said:
I dont know of they did or didn't to be honest. We've shut roads a loads of times for spontaneous protests that pop up, including XR who decided to give us about 10 minutes notice. It helps with keeping a protest static, you have to give them a bit or you'll have groups marauding around all over the city causing a complete nightmare. Yes it's a ball ache for the general public but so are roadworks, RTCs and any other manner of reasons roads get closed.
Have you closed roads for people who said we are setting out to obstruct the highway? Protests that block roads might be OK. Blocking the road to protest isn't, thats according to the courts, police evidence to parliament and the APP. This was the announcement
'We are now less than TWO WEEKS away from Cambridge's largest act of civil disobedience EVER ?? So today we are announcing the location of our week-long roadblock: The roundabout on Trumpington Road intersecting with Fen Causeway.
Substitute that with any other offence, why would it be allowed? Our week long occupation of Heathrow, our week long burning crosses.
Edited by Graveworm on Thursday 20th February 18:17
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