Climate protesters block roads
Discussion
gooner1 said:
Nickgnome said:
gooner1 said:
It might be a good idea to avoid the spelling comments Nick. HTH.
Or post on topic in your case.No matter, I certainly won't be losing any sheep about it.
irocfan said:
Nickgnome said:
That’s a relief you do not come across as the parenting type.
Hope you do not need any care, if or when you become infirmed.
Ahhh there we go, dickgnome indeed - I'm sure your kids will be pleased to learn that they were bred to look after you in your dotage. Hope you do not need any care, if or when you become infirmed.
I agree with poster about a groundswell. There is a groundswell of hardworking tax payers sick to the back teeth of being lectured to by children and do-gooders who have nothing better to do with their time. Yes their is a groundswell lets see how they do blocking Lime St in Liverpool or Victoria in Manchester or Leeds or Glasgow when people are trying to get home.
Coolbanana said:
Aw bless, LT 
Love hitting nerves - so easy with you lot
do yourself a favour buy a mirror and have a good long look into it. Nobody on here is wound up by you quite the opposite its very entertaining . Also you do know deliberately winding up people is not allowed on the forum don't you ?.Love hitting nerves - so easy with you lot
Nickgnome said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
You will still be well above the global average in terms of CO2 per capita.
You've got to ask if 7 billion people had your lifestyle and lived like you would the world be better off? The answer is no doubt no and we have no right telling others that they can't have something we already have.
Remember if you personally stopped producing any CO2 by virtue of living in the west you are still producing more CO2 than what per person billions of the poorest people on earth do. Thanks to street lights, public transport, public building schools hospitals and so on.
You say you have a hybrid how much CO2 was produced making it? Remember to count material processing the energy usage of the buildings and production lines. Transportation costs, the energy usage by the employees building and designing it coming and going to work.
Yes in time them employees can drive to work in the more efficient car they build but ultimately it all relies on fossil fuels. We use huge amount of energy and there is nothing available to replace it.
I ask earlier if we where to power all the vehicles on our roads with biofuel and we grew it at the side of the road how big would the verge need to be? The answer 7 kilometres wide on each side of the road every road. Nearly 25% of our entire land mass would need to used to produce the fuel needed.
The choices are we either revert back to subsistence farming, we continue to use fossil fuels in hope we come up with some miracle energy source. Or we destroy half the world by covering with wind farms, solar panels.
Do you have the data that supports your 50% destruction claim please?You've got to ask if 7 billion people had your lifestyle and lived like you would the world be better off? The answer is no doubt no and we have no right telling others that they can't have something we already have.
Remember if you personally stopped producing any CO2 by virtue of living in the west you are still producing more CO2 than what per person billions of the poorest people on earth do. Thanks to street lights, public transport, public building schools hospitals and so on.
You say you have a hybrid how much CO2 was produced making it? Remember to count material processing the energy usage of the buildings and production lines. Transportation costs, the energy usage by the employees building and designing it coming and going to work.
Yes in time them employees can drive to work in the more efficient car they build but ultimately it all relies on fossil fuels. We use huge amount of energy and there is nothing available to replace it.
I ask earlier if we where to power all the vehicles on our roads with biofuel and we grew it at the side of the road how big would the verge need to be? The answer 7 kilometres wide on each side of the road every road. Nearly 25% of our entire land mass would need to used to produce the fuel needed.
The choices are we either revert back to subsistence farming, we continue to use fossil fuels in hope we come up with some miracle energy source. Or we destroy half the world by covering with wind farms, solar panels.
Please also advise me on the Co2 release for my car production as I have no idea.
As for you not knowing what's involved with the product of your car that the entire issue. People don't seem to have a clue, they think if they pop a few solar panels up and buy a electric car and if then if everyone did the same problem solved.
In fact we would eventually be worse off as by the time half of India, China, Africa, south America have all decided that they want them too. The environmental impact of producing them and running them is large than what we see now. Granted it will be better than them all having petrol/ diesel cars but ultimately the total CO2 production is only going one way, Up.
How are they still at it? They just got swiftly moved on from Canary Wharf.
Funny they go where the money is. Likely because that's where they think the damage is done. Ironically it's the opposite. This is the only place in the country where litter bins actually see 0% of the waste sent to landfill because the owners of the estate unlike councils can afford to have recycling processed. Even got a load of astroturf. No watering but uses plastic, again people are very fickle about which is the lesser of their perceived evils.
Funny they go where the money is. Likely because that's where they think the damage is done. Ironically it's the opposite. This is the only place in the country where litter bins actually see 0% of the waste sent to landfill because the owners of the estate unlike councils can afford to have recycling processed. Even got a load of astroturf. No watering but uses plastic, again people are very fickle about which is the lesser of their perceived evils.
johnxjsc1985 said:
Coolbanana said:
Aw bless, LT
Love hitting nerves - so easy with you lot
do yourself a favour buy a mirror and have a good long look into it. Nobody on here is wound up by you quite the opposite its very entertaining . Also you do know deliberately winding up people is not allowed on the forum don't you ?.Love hitting nerves - so easy with you lot
Nickgnome said:
Death and taxes are of the few certainties. I was stating a fact. Funny that you would interpret that as pleasure. Odd mindset, misspelled username perhaps?
To be clear, your original comment was:-Nickgnome] said:
On the plus side. Most of the angst ridden Ph posters will be dead and public opinion gradually swayed by the science.
"On the plus side" indicates that you see the death PH posters as a positive thing. As to making smart arse comments about usernames - 'people who live in glass houses', and all that:-Gnome: (in folklore) one of a species of diminutive beings, usually described as shriveled little old men; troll.
Of course you could just be a garden ornament.
Ooh. This is just like being back at primary school.
Looks like XR have raised a few quid, but now Diane's involved, I bet the donators are now having second thoughts: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/2...
Looks like the crowd of hardcore crusties is down to 100 'activists' - weather? Back to school....?
Looks like the crowd of hardcore crusties is down to 100 'activists' - weather? Back to school....?
Biker 1 said:
Looks like XR have raised a few quid, but now Diane's involved, I bet the donators are now having second thoughts: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/2...
Looks like the crowd of hardcore crusties is down to 100 'activists' - weather? Back to school....?
Serious question, how are Labours policies different to the Conservatives on Climate Change, and why would XR see labour as allies now Diane Abbott has got involved.Looks like the crowd of hardcore crusties is down to 100 'activists' - weather? Back to school....?
As I see it, there have been loads of Environmental policies and strategies implemented by all recent Governments, taxation of car fuel, increased insulation and energy reduction in the building sector, controls on waste, low-emission zones in city centres, massive reduction of fossil fuel power stations and increase in wind /solar farms, token reduction in plastic bags, as well as the wider support for the Global agenda. Yet, that hasn't made any difference, not a jot, we are still tumbling into a Climate Crisis according to the protestors. So if everything has failed to make a dent in the problem so far, what extra measures will prove to be effective? A little more of the same with have the same zero impact, a massive increase in the same may (at a huge price) have a tiny impact..... then what. What is Diane Abbott and XR seeking that is actually going to have an impact where nothing else has?
johnxjsc1985 said:
may I recommend rationing food the amount of gas and electric consumed in the production transportation and cooking of the stuff could make a huge difference and make people healthier . Ban smoking whilst they are at it.
If you really wanted to reduce energy use in food preparation, you'd ban home cooking - cook everything centrally and then either serve it cold or briefly zap in the microwave.No thanks!
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