Climate protesters block roads
Discussion
johnxjsc1985 said:
TeamD said:
If you want a civil war then get on with it.
what about if we compensate that with free beer ?. The less than subtle point I was trying to make is that the use of energy isn't just confined to Cars or transport in generalha ha ha look at the head clownette next to Dianne Abbott and an apprentice clownette alongside as well, doing "Jazz Hands" instead of applauding, at about 0:40 in the video a little down this page.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6954865/D...
Is there no end to the feckwittery of these people?
There must be a spare Hebridean island we can transport them all to.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6954865/D...
Is there no end to the feckwittery of these people?
There must be a spare Hebridean island we can transport them all to.
funkyrobot said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Coolbanana said:
Aw bless, LT 
Love hitting nerves - so easy with you lot
do yourself a favour buy a mirror and have a good long look into it. Nobody on here is wound up by you quite the opposite its very entertaining . Also you do know deliberately winding up people is not allowed on the forum don't you ?.Love hitting nerves - so easy with you lot
kev1974 said:
ha ha ha look at the head clownette next to Dianne Abbott and an apprentice clownette alongside as well, doing "Jazz Hands" instead of applauding, at about 0:40 in the video a little down this page.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6954865/D...
Is there no end to the feckwittery of these people?
There must be a spare Hebridean island we can transport them all to.
I believe jazz hands was posited as a form of affirmation that didn't frighten people of a nervous disposition. Odd that they should immediately precede it with DA shouting in your face through a megaphone in one of the busiest places in London.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6954865/D...
Is there no end to the feckwittery of these people?
There must be a spare Hebridean island we can transport them all to.
motco said:
According to a report in the press it will all end on Thursday. School's back don't yer know!
Ours started back on Monday - coincidentally, when the London numbers began to fall. And I saw a good number on Sunday evening in Oxfordshire area disembarking coaches.
How did I know they were crusties? Not hard, believe me!
As I drove through one Oxon town a stream of them were pulling cases and the like, one pair (young guy late teens and assume mummy, she looked old enough to be nanny, so who knows?), virtually walked out into the road in front of me to cross without looking. She looked up aghast, and I just giggled and signalled them to cross.
She didn't even acknowledge my courtesy. Never mind. Those sorts wouldn't/couldn't understand courtesy if it hit them in the face.
Mort7 said:
Nickgnome said:
Death and taxes are of the few certainties. I was stating a fact. Funny that you would interpret that as pleasure. Odd mindset, misspelled username perhaps?
To be clear, your original comment was:-Nickgnome] said:
On the plus side. Most of the angst ridden Ph posters will be dead and public opinion gradually swayed by the science.
"On the plus side" indicates that you see the death PH posters as a positive thing. As to making smart arse comments about usernames - 'people who live in glass houses', and all that:-Gnome: (in folklore) one of a species of diminutive beings, usually described as shriveled little old men; troll.
Of course you could just be a garden ornament.
Ooh. This is just like being back at primary school. :r
Nick lives on the south coast doesn't he, is it Eastbourne?
If so, the Bowie song 'Laughing Gnome' really must be about Nick!
andy_s said:
br d said:
I believe jazz hands was posited as a form of affirmation that didn't frighten people of a nervous disposition. Odd that they should immediately precede it with DA shouting in your face through a megaphone in one of the busiest places in London.
Mort7 said:
"On the plus side" indicates that you see the death PH posters as a positive thing. As to making smart arse comments about usernames - 'people who live in glass houses', and all that:-
Gnome: (in folklore) one of a species of diminutive beings, usually described as shriveled little old men; troll.
Of course you could just be a garden ornament.
Ooh. This is just like being back at primary school.
I expect you understand the difference between plus and pleasure.
I’m the one next to water holding a rod. It was a given name.
Gnome: (in folklore) one of a species of diminutive beings, usually described as shriveled little old men; troll.
Of course you could just be a garden ornament.
Ooh. This is just like being back at primary school.
I expect you understand the difference between plus and pleasure.
I’m the one next to water holding a rod. It was a given name.
dandarez said:
Mort7 said:
Nickgnome said:
Death and taxes are of the few certainties. I was stating a fact. Funny that you would interpret that as pleasure. Odd mindset, misspelled username perhaps?
To be clear, your original comment was:-Nickgnome] said:
On the plus side. Most of the angst ridden Ph posters will be dead and public opinion gradually swayed by the science.
"On the plus side" indicates that you see the death PH posters as a positive thing. As to making smart arse comments about usernames - 'people who live in glass houses', and all that:-Gnome: (in folklore) one of a species of diminutive beings, usually described as shriveled little old men; troll.
Of course you could just be a garden ornament.
Ooh. This is just like being back at primary school. :r
Nick lives on the south coast doesn't he, is it Eastbourne?
If so, the Bowie song 'Laughing Gnome' really must be about Nick!
turbobloke said:
biggbn said:
Coolbanana said:
The message about Climate Change is a valid one, only those who are somewhat intellectually-challenged would still argue that there remains a debate to the contrary.
Humans are accelerating the Natural process. Fact. You are an idiot to disagree, if you do.
Extinction Rebellion should be praised for heightening general awareness in the sense that we should be pressuring Governments to take further action, however, they are, in my personal view, advocating impractical measures that are just too extreme; it is simply unrealistic to see aviation as for 'emergencies' only, for example.
They, and the recent Classroom activism, are exactly what we need to see in terms of stepping up the pressure upon Governments to work together to address Climate Change issues as quickly as realistically possible.
Ignorance and attitudes supporting the 'I'm alright, couldn't give a stuff about the Future, so let them deal with it' are unhelpful but can be managed - just as Smokers had to be managed, since they refused to self-regulate the impact they had on others.
Extinction Rebellion and the like are being heard, they just need to ensure that they do not overstep, which they are in danger of doing. The Climate Change Disbeliever Morons who disagree can be managed, but if Extinction Rebellion go too far, they do make that task tougher.
Governments around the World need to ramp up their measures to control CC, influential Governments like the UK, can exert influence upon those others who may not otherwise make much effort; hence targeting London etc is a valid tactic.
I clearly support ER and a little inconvenience is a small price to pay while they get their message heard...but too much will have a negative effect, so I don't support their more extreme views.
Thanks for this post. Well said Humans are accelerating the Natural process. Fact. You are an idiot to disagree, if you do.
Extinction Rebellion should be praised for heightening general awareness in the sense that we should be pressuring Governments to take further action, however, they are, in my personal view, advocating impractical measures that are just too extreme; it is simply unrealistic to see aviation as for 'emergencies' only, for example.
They, and the recent Classroom activism, are exactly what we need to see in terms of stepping up the pressure upon Governments to work together to address Climate Change issues as quickly as realistically possible.
Ignorance and attitudes supporting the 'I'm alright, couldn't give a stuff about the Future, so let them deal with it' are unhelpful but can be managed - just as Smokers had to be managed, since they refused to self-regulate the impact they had on others.
Extinction Rebellion and the like are being heard, they just need to ensure that they do not overstep, which they are in danger of doing. The Climate Change Disbeliever Morons who disagree can be managed, but if Extinction Rebellion go too far, they do make that task tougher.
Governments around the World need to ramp up their measures to control CC, influential Governments like the UK, can exert influence upon those others who may not otherwise make much effort; hence targeting London etc is a valid tactic.
I clearly support ER and a little inconvenience is a small price to pay while they get their message heard...but too much will have a negative effect, so I don't support their more extreme views.
To take but one error among many, what natural process is accelerating at the mo? Not temperature, there have been many more rapid temperature chantes to greater extents, not sea llevel which hasn't accelerated since anthropogenic emissions rose significantly, not ocean pH changes and not coral bleaching which took place at similar or greater levels in previous centuries, not wildfires, not hurricanes, not tornadoes, not arctic ice which had similar beviour centred on ~1922 and 1817, And so on.
This is a thread about misguided protests but the basis for the above is clearly going to be needed with so many credulous contributions flying around, so here's a list of peer-reviewed literature and all but two are contemporary with data (not mere opinion) by which the above statements and others are substantiated.
Don't bother asking why the information below isn't more widely known and discussed, as the above posts offer all the explanation needed.
For more either do some online searches based on the theme and authors ^^ or head over to the climate thread(s) and scroll back or do a search - beyond this point I don't see any point in adding to the catalogue of actual data (rather than faith statements) and the thread ought to get back to discussing foolish and disruptive actions / comments from the gullible and the culpable.
-Recent global warming is primarily a result of natural causes - Mao et al
-Humans do not exert fundamental control over the Earth’s climate – also Mao et al
- Results of this review point to the extreme value of CO2 to all life forms, but no role of CO2 in any significant change of the Earth’s climate – Fleming
-The Sun is the primary forcing of Earth’s climate system – NASA, Newberry et al
-The temperature field of the global troposphere and lower stratosphere - not as predicted by agw theory, Varotsos and Efstathiou
-Temperature rate of change and extent - not unprecedented e.g. Alley et al, Fawcett et al
-So-called extreme high T events – nonlinear from mean T trend, see Mearns et al
-Carbon dioxide is good for ecosystems - global net ecosystem production increased by at least 117 Tg C per year between 1995 and 2014 with the vast majority of that increase (~90%) due to aerial fertilization effects i.e. increased CO2 levels, from Fernández-Martínez et al
-Ice mass changes - not unprecedented, not as modelled and not as hyped e.g. Minutes of the Royal Society, Opel et al, Joughin and Tulaczyk, Wingham et al
-Arctic expedition - 1930/31 was 4.6 °C warmer than 1981-2010, Feb ’31 average 10.7 deg C warmer
-Glaciers - not retreating due to global warming, see Bookhagen et al
-Ice shelves not collapsing – Ollier and Pain
-Coral changes - not unprecedented, events seen today occurred in the 1600s, 1700s and 1800s see Xu et al, Kamenose & Hennige and try Andersson et al
-Coral manages pH / temperature changes through biological control – Ross et al, McCulloch et al
-Ocean 'Acidification' and (lack of) impacts on marine phytoplankton – “CO2-driven acidification had no significant impact on growth rate, chlorophyll-a, cellular abundance, gross photosynthesis, dark respiration, particulate organic carbon and particulate organic nitrogen between CO2-treatments” also no impact on nutritional quality as a primary producer in the marine food web, Jacob et al
-Sea level changes don’t show the expected anthropogenic acceleration – see Douglas, Holgate and check out Gregory er al
Sea level rise AR5 model projections invalidated - Watson
-Global coasts growing not shrinking – Donchyts et al, and see Duvat (coral attol island stability)
- Hurricane frequency - no significant trend in the data: Landsea, Pielke et al, Weinkle et al
-Hurricane data: hurricane intensity attribution to anthropogenic forcing is not possible- Trenary et al
-Floods and Droughts - not intensifying e.g. Sheffield et al, Hanel et al, Macklin et al, Barredo
-Wildfires -not increasing or intensifying see Doerr and Santin
-Indian Summer Monsoon Rainfall - CMIP5 models fail to simulate post?1950 trend, see Saha et al
-Cold weather mortality across the US- more than 16x higher than for warm weather, Zhang et al
-Polar bear numbers - increased not decreased, surveys post-2007-2016 e.g. Crockford, York et al
-Jellyfish numbers not linked to carbon dioxide - Pitt
-Major climate forcings omitted by IPCC modelling – Svensmark et al, Bucha and Bucha. Agee et al
-CMIP5 model regional projections deficient for Greenland, UK and parts of Europe – Hanna et al
-The agw hypothesis within climate models fails against empirical data and the agw null hypothesis must be rejected – McKitrick and Christy
-Hydrological cycle - no detectable global-scale human influence (models wrong) from Nguyen et al
-Tropical forest biomass doesn’t release more CO2 with warming, contrary to models – Roe
The biggest threat to the human race today is the idiocracy that spreads like religion via social media.
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