Climate protesters block roads

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Kawasicki

13,041 posts

234 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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6 Billion to die this century alone!

Isn't that exactly what Gaia needs?

The environmental movement isn't even happy when climate science predicts it will get exactly what it wants.

If I was him, I'd be thrilled skinny. Imagine how pleasant the earth will be in 81 years time, when there are only a billion of us left, sitting around campfires, smoking pot and knitting yoghurt beanies.

Is it even possible to knit with yoghurt? I've never tried knitting.

Edited by Kawasicki on Monday 19th August 14:03


Edited by Kawasicki on Monday 19th August 15:00

Starfighter

4,908 posts

177 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Population is around 7.5 billion with a life expectancy of 72 years (WHO for birth is 2016) easily equates to 6 billion natural death in 21st century.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Hoofy said:
If you want to argue that it's all made up, then do engage the professors and researchers.
They're engaging each other continuously, as contrary to propaganda the science isn't settled and there's no consensus in the wider scientific community beyond the couple of dozen political appointees paid to make attribution calls (opinion) over at IPCC HQ. See the paper from Hulme plus one.

Two or three PHers I can think of but won't sleuth in this post becauase it's against PH rules are / have been involved, not many for sure but it's not entirely them and us - that's another myth pushed by pro-agw thread trolls (not accusing you). Others have qualifications and backgrounds that make for good access. Naturally it's a comfort blanket to the faithful to imagine and truly believe otherwise.

On the Tipping Point unit linked above, iirc IPCC AR5 defines a tipping point as an irreversible change in the climate system. Could somebody give an example by way of clarification...we've had an ice-free planet and an ice-covered planet and gone back and forth between these states. Is this like the use of the word 'trapped' as in trapped heat, where it doesn't mean trapped?

wc98

10,334 posts

139 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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T-195 said:
Burned out Hippy Clown.
given the state of them it would have been a very dim flame when it was burning. i wonder how some of them manage to get out of bed in the morning.

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,077 posts

168 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Celebrities are ok to use private jets and have carbon footprints the size of a nation because they (or wealthy friends) can afford to buy the carbon credits to offset their impact silly


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49398852


Edited by Baby Shark doo doo doo doo on Monday 19th August 19:35

Graveworm

8,476 posts

70 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Celebrities are ok to use private jets and have carbon footprints the size of a nation because they (or wealthy friends) can afford to buy the carbon credits to offset their impact silly


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49398852


Edited by Baby Shark doo doo doo doo on Monday 19th August 19:35
It's not like it (Carbon offsetting not private jets) is hellishly expensive. Just booked a holiday for next year with 2 Long haul, 2 short haul and 3 light aircraft it's £252 for 2 people. What I can't properly work out is why the class of travel makes such a difference to offsetting when, allegedly, it's already partly the the reason for the extra tax?

Edited by Graveworm on Monday 19th August 19:55

A Winner Is You

24,942 posts

226 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Celebrities are ok to use private jets and have carbon footprints the size of a nation because they (or wealthy friends) can afford to buy the carbon credits to offset their impact :sillly:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49398852
Nice to know that the rich will be able to carry on as before, knowing they can pay to absolve their sins.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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As it's always been.


Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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turbobloke said:
Hoofy said:
If you want to argue that it's all made up, then do engage the professors and researchers.
They're engaging each other continuously, as contrary to propaganda the science isn't settled and there's no consensus in the wider scientific community beyond the couple of dozen political appointees paid to make attribution calls (opinion) over at IPCC HQ. See the paper from Hulme plus one.

Two or three PHers I can think of but won't sleuth in this post becauase it's against PH rules are / have been involved, not many for sure but it's not entirely them and us - that's another myth pushed by pro-agw thread trolls (not accusing you). Others have qualifications and backgrounds that make for good access. Naturally it's a comfort blanket to the faithful to imagine and truly believe otherwise.

On the Tipping Point unit linked above, iirc IPCC AR5 defines a tipping point as an irreversible change in the climate system. Could somebody give an example by way of clarification...we've had an ice-free planet and an ice-covered planet and gone back and forth between these states. Is this like the use of the word 'trapped' as in trapped heat, where it doesn't mean trapped?
Just sign up to the courses, see which bit you disagree with and get cracking then.

Pesty

42,655 posts

255 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
For anyone doubting XR is a doomsday cult

https://twitter.com/BeccyRyan/status/1163355484105...
Mentally ill clearly










Edited by Pesty on Monday 19th August 21:54

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Hoofy said:
turbobloke said:
Hoofy said:
If you want to argue that it's all made up, then do engage the professors and researchers.
They're engaging each other continuously, as contrary to propaganda the science isn't settled and there's no consensus in the wider scientific community beyond the couple of dozen political appointees paid to make attribution calls (opinion) over at IPCC HQ. See the paper from Hulme plus one.

Two or three PHers I can think of but won't sleuth in this post because it's against PH rules are / have been involved, not many for sure but it's not entirely them and us - that's another myth pushed by pro-agw thread trolls (not accusing you). Others have qualifications and backgrounds that make for good access. Naturally it's a comfort blanket to the faithful to imagine and truly believe otherwise.

On the Tipping Point unit linked above, iirc IPCC AR5 defines a tipping point as an irreversible change in the climate system. Could somebody give an example by way of clarification...we've had an ice-free planet and an ice-covered planet and gone back and forth between these states. Is this like the use of the word 'trapped' as in trapped heat, where it doesn't mean trapped?
Just sign up to the courses, see which bit you disagree with and get cracking then.
Get cracking on what? Also, how is your reply an answer to the above question? You're free to avoid it, particularly if the courses were of no use with answers.

Your assumptions continue to be way off the mark, until recently I taught this subject to post-graduate students.

This really isn't the thread for more on such things; why not head over to the climate politics thread and 'get cracking' on the politics side?

Pesty

42,655 posts

255 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Hoofy said:
I'm ignoring the XR OTT stuff as I think blocking London and causing massive pollution is fking stupid but I've done a couple of courses run by universities on this subject. There are free ones on FutureLearn:

https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/extinctions-pa...
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/climate-change...
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/tipping-points...

They're a bit more measured in their approach ie not shouting at people but it certainly makes you think. If you want to argue that it's all made up, then do engage the professors and researchers.

The thing for me is that it really doesn't matter as I don't have kids and probably won't so it'll all really kick off after I'm gone. <searches on AT for Brabus V12s>

Edited by Hoofy on Monday 19th August 13:56
Which professors? The so called 97%

https://archive.is/9pnLg
https://archive.is/Y4cMr
https://archive.is/vjShO

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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turbobloke said:
Hoofy said:
turbobloke said:
Hoofy said:
If you want to argue that it's all made up, then do engage the professors and researchers.
They're engaging each other continuously, as contrary to propaganda the science isn't settled and there's no consensus in the wider scientific community beyond the couple of dozen political appointees paid to make attribution calls (opinion) over at IPCC HQ. See the paper from Hulme plus one.

Two or three PHers I can think of but won't sleuth in this post because it's against PH rules are / have been involved, not many for sure but it's not entirely them and us - that's another myth pushed by pro-agw thread trolls (not accusing you). Others have qualifications and backgrounds that make for good access. Naturally it's a comfort blanket to the faithful to imagine and truly believe otherwise.

On the Tipping Point unit linked above, iirc IPCC AR5 defines a tipping point as an irreversible change in the climate system. Could somebody give an example by way of clarification...we've had an ice-free planet and an ice-covered planet and gone back and forth between these states. Is this like the use of the word 'trapped' as in trapped heat, where it doesn't mean trapped?
Just sign up to the courses, see which bit you disagree with and get cracking then.
Get cracking on what? Also, how is your reply an answer to the above question? You're free to avoid it, particularly if the courses were of no use with answers.

Your assumptions continue to be way off the mark, until recently I taught this subject to post-graduate students.

This really isn't the thread for more on such things; why not head over to the climate politics thread and 'get cracking' on the politics side?
Get cracking = tell them they're all wrong.

dandarez

13,246 posts

282 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I (unfortunately) missed that edition of Hardtalk.

Christ a fking alive, they give airplay to a guy exactly like the ones I watched in London (and other towns and cities) in the 60s, except they were usually togged out in a suit or similar, who marched along with placards about the impending doom (that never happened of course) and were totally ignored as nuts, but utterly harmless.

How things change.
Still f nuts but far from harmless after being given platforms they don't deserve. That tt couldn't even be bothered to smarten up - I saw and chatted with Hippies in the 60s better informed and more upright. And again, that word, harmless (in the main). God help us.

The best comment in that twitter feed was this from Harriet Smart:
'I looked after saner people than this guy on a ward for seriously disturbed patients.'

I don't doubt it Harriet, but they never, ever, got a voice on the Beeb.
Again, God help us.

wc98

10,334 posts

139 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Celebrities are ok to use private jets and have carbon footprints the size of a nation because they (or wealthy friends) can afford to buy the carbon credits to offset their impact silly


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49398852


Edited by Baby Shark doo doo doo doo on Monday 19th August 19:35
surely all those environmentally friendly concerts run by sir elton, that all the attendees walk for days to get to and powered by unicorn farts,must count toward offsetting their carbon footprint wink

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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I cannot get over this! https://twitter.com/BeccyRyan/status/1163355484105...

He's a fknugget, and a angerous one at that!

kev1974

4,029 posts

128 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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Looks like the GretaBot is almost half way there

https://tracker.borisherrmannracing.com/

The numbers on the track are social media posts, but I wouldn't bother clicking on them, the majority just seem to be propaganda from her puppeteers.

The Don of Croy

5,976 posts

158 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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jshell said:
I cannot get over this! https://twitter.com/BeccyRyan/status/1163355484105...

He's a fknugget, and a angerous one at that!
Following some of the links in the comments (I had a slow day yesterday) I learned that - much as expected - there's a clear link up through Occupy, Rise up and XR which then brings in the shadowy financial backers and some wild claims as to the end point (was not aware of the 5G conspiracy before!).

As ever, it's the front line expendables that will pay the highest price for this activity (criminal records etc) but at least they'll have some stories to tell their grandkids..no wait -they'll all be dead...sad face.

Julian Roger Hallam seems to be very open with how he is portrayed - in some of the videos he's forgetful and/or pre-occupied, in others at the wheel of a SUV (the horror!), and rarely (if ever) does he justify his numbers. But somehow he carries on, leading this rag-tag army onto future glory.Curious. Did someone mention Common Purpose?

T-195

2,671 posts

60 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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jshell said:
I cannot get over this! https://twitter.com/BeccyRyan/status/1163355484105...

He's a fknugget, and a angerous one at that!

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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The Don of Croy said:
jshell said:
I cannot get over this! https://twitter.com/BeccyRyan/status/1163355484105...

He's a fknugget, and a angerous one at that!
Following some of the links in the comments (I had a slow day yesterday) I learned that - much as expected - there's a clear link up through Occupy, Rise up and XR which then brings in the shadowy financial backers and some wild claims as to the end point (was not aware of the 5G conspiracy before!).

As ever, it's the front line expendables that will pay the highest price for this activity (criminal records etc) but at least they'll have some stories to tell their grandkids..no wait -they'll all be dead...sad face.

Julian Roger Hallam seems to be very open with how he is portrayed - in some of the videos he's forgetful and/or pre-occupied, in others at the wheel of a SUV (the horror!), and rarely (if ever) does he justify his numbers. But somehow he carries on, leading this rag-tag army onto future glory.Curious. Did someone mention Common Purpose?
Some interesting stuff here, and much as I utterly hate and abhor the 'Daily Fail', it's a Fail link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6927195/T...

Sorry for that!