Thomas Cook announces £1.45bn loss.
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amusingduck said:
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
2) My company relies on fuzzy foreigners studying in the UK and numbers are falling resulting in job uncertainty.
Says who?website said:
As of 2017/18, international enrollment at UK universities expanded by 3.6% compared to the previous year.
https://www.studying-in-uk.org/international-student-statistics-in-uk/website said:
The UK is the second most popular study destination worldwide. According to official international enrollment statistics, 458,490 foreign students were attending university in UK..
From UCAS:UCAS said:
UCAS, the Universities and Colleges Admissions Service, is a charity, and the UK's shared admissions service for higher education. We manage almost three million applications, from around 700,000 people, each year, for full-time undergraduate courses at over 380 universities and colleges across the UK.
So over half are foreign enrolments, granted a lot of those will be coming via the EURASMUS program but that's due to continue post Brexit anyway.Foreign students have to pay their fees up front and receive no discounts or UK government assistance... Meaning it's all profit for universities. Its a huge business.
But this is quite off topic.
Fundoreen said:
haha talk about bringing all the bulging eyed looneys out.
Its not that europeans are angry its more sadness. In turn the intrepid british tourist knows this and out of guilt goes elsewhere.
Anyway while being all for brexit as advertised beforehand I can now see the UK has been fooled.
What country is run for the benefit of the disgruntled,low paid,old and past it? A not very prosperous one.
What a load of deluded rubbish. Its not that europeans are angry its more sadness. In turn the intrepid british tourist knows this and out of guilt goes elsewhere.
Anyway while being all for brexit as advertised beforehand I can now see the UK has been fooled.
What country is run for the benefit of the disgruntled,low paid,old and past it? A not very prosperous one.
I’ve travelled all over Europe and the rest of the world in the past few years and seen nothing but understanding, sympathy and quite a lot of envy.
Fundoreen said:
haha talk about bringing all the bulging eyed looneys out.
Its not that europeans are angry its more sadness. In turn the intrepid british tourist knows this and out of guilt goes elsewhere.
Anyway while being all for brexit as advertised beforehand I can now see the UK has been fooled.
What country is run for the benefit of the disgruntled,low paid,old and past it? A not very prosperous one.
Typical thick as mince remainer. Its not that europeans are angry its more sadness. In turn the intrepid british tourist knows this and out of guilt goes elsewhere.
Anyway while being all for brexit as advertised beforehand I can now see the UK has been fooled.
What country is run for the benefit of the disgruntled,low paid,old and past it? A not very prosperous one.
Try working in Europe, the factories I work with in Italy, Germany, Portugal all say that the UK is the only country with the balls to leave the EU, and can see themselves following.
The EU project is financially f
ked, Germany has run out of 'Greeces' to sell and lend to, and the whole thing is insolvent. What is it that you do to get this warped view of how we are seen in Europe?
They see our parliament like that, but not out country.
gizlaroc said:
Typical thick as mince remainer.
Try working in Europe, the factories I work with in Italy, Germany, Portugal all say that the UK is the only country with the balls to leave the EU, and can see themselves following.
The EU project is financially fked, Germany has run out of 'Greeces' to sell and lend to, and the whole thing is insolvent.
What is it that you do to get this warped view of how we are seen in Europe?
They see our parliament like that, but not out country.
By actually talking to them instead of fantasies made up by thick as mince Brexiteers in some backwater pub. Try working in Europe, the factories I work with in Italy, Germany, Portugal all say that the UK is the only country with the balls to leave the EU, and can see themselves following.
The EU project is financially f
ked, Germany has run out of 'Greeces' to sell and lend to, and the whole thing is insolvent. What is it that you do to get this warped view of how we are seen in Europe?
They see our parliament like that, but not out country.
You've got to be thick as pigs
t not to see Brexit for the disaster it is. You've got to be twice as thick to think that it could have been anything else. Of the 17 million that voted for it, the majority will have now realised that was a mistake, those who haven't are complete thickos. Keep believing your fantasies about the EU being on the edge of collapse... but don't expect anyone with more than 0.5 brain cells to believe it as well. By the sounds of it, you haven't spoken to anyone outside UKIP in 20 years, let alone left your village. No apologies sunshine, you really do come off that way.
What is it that you do that you think Europeans think we're anything but insanely stupid to be doing Brexit?
Yes, they really do see us that way, especially since we were the ones that had such a good deal compared to other advanced economies in the EU.
captain_cynic said:
By actually talking to them instead of fantasies made up by thick as mince Brexiteers in some backwater pub.
You've got to be thick as pigst not to see Brexit for the disaster it is. You've got to be twice as thick to think that it could have been anything else. Of the 17 million that voted for it, the majority will have now realised that was a mistake, those who haven't are complete thickos.
Keep believing your fantasies about the EU being on the edge of collapse... but don't expect anyone with more than 0.5 brain cells to believe it as well. By the sounds of it, you haven't spoken to anyone outside UKIP in 20 years, let alone left your village. No apologies sunshine, you really do come off that way.
What is it that you do that you think Europeans think we're anything but insanely stupid to be doing Brexit?
Yes, they really do see us that way, especially since we were the ones that had such a good deal compared to other advanced economies in the EU.
You're frothing so much you'll be needing a rabies shot old chapYou've got to be thick as pigs
t not to see Brexit for the disaster it is. You've got to be twice as thick to think that it could have been anything else. Of the 17 million that voted for it, the majority will have now realised that was a mistake, those who haven't are complete thickos. Keep believing your fantasies about the EU being on the edge of collapse... but don't expect anyone with more than 0.5 brain cells to believe it as well. By the sounds of it, you haven't spoken to anyone outside UKIP in 20 years, let alone left your village. No apologies sunshine, you really do come off that way.
What is it that you do that you think Europeans think we're anything but insanely stupid to be doing Brexit?
Yes, they really do see us that way, especially since we were the ones that had such a good deal compared to other advanced economies in the EU.
captain_cynic said:
By actually talking to them instead of fantasies made up by thick as mince Brexiteers in some backwater pub.
You've got to be thick as pigst not to see Brexit for the disaster it is. You've got to be twice as thick to think that it could have been anything else. Of the 17 million that voted for it, the majority will have now realised that was a mistake, those who haven't are complete thickos.
Keep believing your fantasies about the EU being on the edge of collapse... but don't expect anyone with more than 0.5 brain cells to believe it as well. By the sounds of it, you haven't spoken to anyone outside UKIP in 20 years, let alone left your village. No apologies sunshine, you really do come off that way.
What is it that you do that you think Europeans think we're anything but insanely stupid to be doing Brexit?
Yes, they really do see us that way, especially since we were the ones that had such a good deal compared to other advanced economies in the EU.
Blimey. You've got to be thick as pigs
t not to see Brexit for the disaster it is. You've got to be twice as thick to think that it could have been anything else. Of the 17 million that voted for it, the majority will have now realised that was a mistake, those who haven't are complete thickos. Keep believing your fantasies about the EU being on the edge of collapse... but don't expect anyone with more than 0.5 brain cells to believe it as well. By the sounds of it, you haven't spoken to anyone outside UKIP in 20 years, let alone left your village. No apologies sunshine, you really do come off that way.
What is it that you do that you think Europeans think we're anything but insanely stupid to be doing Brexit?
Yes, they really do see us that way, especially since we were the ones that had such a good deal compared to other advanced economies in the EU.
I said he was thick as mince for what he was saying because it was nonsense.
Leaving the UK is not running the country for the disgruntled, low paid, old and past it.
Saying things like that does make him thick as mince.
Now, thinking we are better in than out if a different matter, no one knows either way, but that is besides the point.
Plenty of people have decent reasons for leaving, plenty of people have decent cases for remaining, his was not. He sounds as stupid as the person who voted leave because of immigration.
And you're wrong, many do not see us like that at all. I'm sure many do, maybe it is 48/52?? Who really knows, but a blanket statement that they all see us like that does make you sound a bit thick I'm afraid.
It's nearly 5pm, get down the pub and have a quick drink, it may help you chill out a bit.
Have a great weekend everyone.
captain_cynic said:
gizlaroc said:
Typical thick as mince remainer.
Try working in Europe, the factories I work with in Italy, Germany, Portugal all say that the UK is the only country with the balls to leave the EU, and can see themselves following.
The EU project is financially fked, Germany has run out of 'Greeces' to sell and lend to, and the whole thing is insolvent.
What is it that you do to get this warped view of how we are seen in Europe?
They see our parliament like that, but not out country.
By actually talking to them instead of fantasies made up by thick as mince Brexiteers in some backwater pub. Try working in Europe, the factories I work with in Italy, Germany, Portugal all say that the UK is the only country with the balls to leave the EU, and can see themselves following.
The EU project is financially f
ked, Germany has run out of 'Greeces' to sell and lend to, and the whole thing is insolvent. What is it that you do to get this warped view of how we are seen in Europe?
They see our parliament like that, but not out country.
You've got to be thick as pigs
t not to see Brexit for the disaster it is. You've got to be twice as thick to think that it could have been anything else. Of the 17 million that voted for it, the majority will have now realised that was a mistake, those who haven't are complete thickos. Keep believing your fantasies about the EU being on the edge of collapse... but don't expect anyone with more than 0.5 brain cells to believe it as well. By the sounds of it, you haven't spoken to anyone outside UKIP in 20 years, let alone left your village. No apologies sunshine, you really do come off that way.
What is it that you do that you think Europeans think we're anything but insanely stupid to be doing Brexit?
Yes, they really do see us that way, especially since we were the ones that had such a good deal compared to other advanced economies in the EU.
Of course if farage ends up getting a huge vote i guess they didn't regret voting brexit after all.
Wife and six work mates were returning from a convention in Orlando this week.
Their company must really love them and motivate them for these conferences, as outwards, they flew Virgin, business class.
Return leg was Thomas Cook, overnight red-eye, cattle class, for extra panache, pre-selected seats either side of "the couple with the baby bassinents on the mid cabin bulkhead"!!!!.
Or should have been, except no one could check-in online. Their travel provider was spoken to and told them that they were holding off until 3hrs before to transfer the remainder of the flight payment in case the flights were cancelled, so they had to check in at the airport and claim the extra costs back via expenses of checking in at the airport. Wife got through OK, a couple of colleagues were held for a while until it was determined that payment had been made in full and three were bumped as the flight was over-subscribed and they hadn't checked in in time. They got put in a hotel and flew home by the travel provider business class virgin the next day.
So doesn't sound like Thomas Cook were doing too bad (wifes reciect from travel provider was £1200 out with Virgin, £800 inwards with TC - only booked two weeks before at "special" corporate rate). As far as I can tell the only person losing out here is her company as the travel provider screwed up - though I'm sure it gets clawed back in the end.
Anyway, she said the TC plane was the most clapped out dog she has ever flown in and the service was worse than if she'd bought her own foord when leaving the UK and left it on the tarmac at Orlando for five days and then taken it back on board and never again TC
Their company must really love them and motivate them for these conferences, as outwards, they flew Virgin, business class.
Return leg was Thomas Cook, overnight red-eye, cattle class, for extra panache, pre-selected seats either side of "the couple with the baby bassinents on the mid cabin bulkhead"!!!!.
Or should have been, except no one could check-in online. Their travel provider was spoken to and told them that they were holding off until 3hrs before to transfer the remainder of the flight payment in case the flights were cancelled, so they had to check in at the airport and claim the extra costs back via expenses of checking in at the airport. Wife got through OK, a couple of colleagues were held for a while until it was determined that payment had been made in full and three were bumped as the flight was over-subscribed and they hadn't checked in in time. They got put in a hotel and flew home by the travel provider business class virgin the next day.
So doesn't sound like Thomas Cook were doing too bad (wifes reciect from travel provider was £1200 out with Virgin, £800 inwards with TC - only booked two weeks before at "special" corporate rate). As far as I can tell the only person losing out here is her company as the travel provider screwed up - though I'm sure it gets clawed back in the end.
Anyway, she said the TC plane was the most clapped out dog she has ever flown in and the service was worse than if she'd bought her own foord when leaving the UK and left it on the tarmac at Orlando for five days and then taken it back on board and never again TC
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