Gay couple beaten for refusing to kiss for a mob
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Let's get one thing straight, it's awful what happened to them.
My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
Escy said:
Let's get one thing straight, it's awful what happened to them.
My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
So once again, you claim the women maybe hit one of the gang of men. Back your claim up please.My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
Escy said:
Let's get one thing straight, it's awful what happened to them.
My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
Totally unfounded claim.My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
And even if she did, she is still the victim.
Some pretty odd posts there. Even with the Jussie Smollett situation this hardly stands up to conspiracy.
The women have every right to confront someone being abusive. Throwing of coins & cornered on a bus is hardly 'turn the other cheek' territory for anyone. Disgusting attack & I cant wait for them to be named in the media and made examples of.
The women have every right to confront someone being abusive. Throwing of coins & cornered on a bus is hardly 'turn the other cheek' territory for anyone. Disgusting attack & I cant wait for them to be named in the media and made examples of.
Escy said:
I'm not claiming it, I'm speculating. We know she approached them from the report. Why would she do that do you think?
If you unfounded allegation is correct, what inference are you drawing from it? That it is her fault she then got beaten up after suffering homophobic and misogynistic abuse and then had her phone and purse nicked? tleefox said:
Ok, I'll bite and I'll caveat it by saying that if their account of what has happened is true, then it is terrible and has no place in modern society.
But something about this incident and how it is being reported don't sit right with me - one of those "feels like there's more to it than we're being told" cases.
More than likely I'm wrong, but that's my opinion at the moment.
From the photos they looked like they had been hit and any women being hit by a group of men is absolutely sickening. Whether it is homophobic or not (which is the reporting) is besides the point. But something about this incident and how it is being reported don't sit right with me - one of those "feels like there's more to it than we're being told" cases.
More than likely I'm wrong, but that's my opinion at the moment.
Integroo said:
If you unfounded allegation is correct, what inference are you drawing from it? That it is her fault she then got beaten up after suffering homophobic and misogynistic abuse and then had her phone and purse nicked?
Nothing more than the report is missing some information. They are victims and what happened to them is unacceptable. Escy said:
I'm not claiming it, I'm speculating. We know she approached them from the report. Why would she do that do you think?
Christ on a bike.......Well if that's the case maybe the reason we don't have a description of the attackers is because the attack didn't happen and all the injuries are self inflicted.
Escy, I'm sure you are a fine upstanding member of our society but your posts on this thread are extremely questionable. Would you be speculating such a manner if it was a member of your family that was attacked?
Escy said:
The story doesn't cover the bit between the throwing of coins and the physical violence. Reading between the lines, i'm going to suggest the blonde women started the physical violence. That's probably why the CCTV isn't available.
Those responsible are obviously idiots, hope they get done.
That may well be the case, and it seems like she had been severely provoked, but regardless you don't hit women. Those responsible are obviously idiots, hope they get done.
ked up that they'd just start beating two women over something so pettyEscy said:
Let's get one thing straight, it's awful what happened to them.
My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
Even if your speculation is correct and she did hit one of the men she didn't start the physical violence, they did when they threw coins at the couple, therefore her act would count as self defence I'd say.My point is there is a lack if clarity around that part of the story, I think there is a reason why it's vague.
As for why she'd start the physical violence, everyone has a breaking point and you can easily see how she'd reach hers with these idiots goading them. Maybe she hit one not expecting to get hit back as she's a women? Maybe she didn't even consider her own saftey?
MikeT66 said:
tleefox said:
Ok, I'll bite and I'll caveat it by saying that if their account of what has happened is true, then it is terrible and has no place in modern society.
But something about this incident and how it is being reported don't sit right with me - one of those "feels like there's more to it than we're being told" cases.
More than likely I'm wrong, but that's my opinion at the moment.
Possibly, but I'm not sure I can think of anything that could happen on a bus whereby the beating of two women is justified.But something about this incident and how it is being reported don't sit right with me - one of those "feels like there's more to it than we're being told" cases.
More than likely I'm wrong, but that's my opinion at the moment.
I get that there has been some unwanted attention.. two girls kissing on a night bus .. group of lads get leery and homophobic
There’s then “an exchange ” between the two groups and it seems possible one of the girls launches into the lads flailing like a banshee .. it all kicks off and the 2nd girl wades in and there is a general affray !
I note that this isn’t an appeal from the Met, but someone picking up on a FB post from one of those involved, and the comments from the Met are rather non commital and treating it as an assault and Robbery
Violence, robbery and homophobia can never be right but I’d be intrigued to see the cctv if there is any
Girls can be just as angry, violent and aggressive as guys especially if there is drink involved
Interesting to see how it develops
Earthdweller said:
From reading her account and the FB page linked I’d say that there is more to this than is possibly portrayed
I get that there has been some unwanted attention.. two girls kissing on a night bus .. group of lads get leery and homophobic
There’s then “an exchange ” between the two groups and it seems possible one of the girls launches into the lads flailing like a banshee .. it all kicks off and the 2nd girl wades in and there is a general affray !
I note that this isn’t an appeal from the Met, but someone picking up on a FB post from one of those involved, and the comments from the Met are rather non commital and treating it as an assault and Robbery
Violence, robbery and homophobia can never be right but I’d be intrigued to see the cctv if there is any
Girls can be just as angry, violent and aggressive as guys especially if there is drink involved
Interesting to see how it develops
One - unfounded allegations. I get that there has been some unwanted attention.. two girls kissing on a night bus .. group of lads get leery and homophobic
There’s then “an exchange ” between the two groups and it seems possible one of the girls launches into the lads flailing like a banshee .. it all kicks off and the 2nd girl wades in and there is a general affray !
I note that this isn’t an appeal from the Met, but someone picking up on a FB post from one of those involved, and the comments from the Met are rather non commital and treating it as an assault and Robbery
Violence, robbery and homophobia can never be right but I’d be intrigued to see the cctv if there is any
Girls can be just as angry, violent and aggressive as guys especially if there is drink involved
Interesting to see how it develops
Two - if your allegations are true, I wonder why the girls would be angry about getting coins pelted at them and homophobic abuse ...
Integroo said:
Earthdweller said:
From reading her account and the FB page linked I’d say that there is more to this than is possibly portrayed
I get that there has been some unwanted attention.. two girls kissing on a night bus .. group of lads get leery and homophobic
There’s then “an exchange ” between the two groups and it seems possible one of the girls launches into the lads flailing like a banshee .. it all kicks off and the 2nd girl wades in and there is a general affray !
I note that this isn’t an appeal from the Met, but someone picking up on a FB post from one of those involved, and the comments from the Met are rather non commital and treating it as an assault and Robbery
Violence, robbery and homophobia can never be right but I’d be intrigued to see the cctv if there is any
Girls can be just as angry, violent and aggressive as guys especially if there is drink involved
Interesting to see how it develops
One - unfounded allegations. I get that there has been some unwanted attention.. two girls kissing on a night bus .. group of lads get leery and homophobic
There’s then “an exchange ” between the two groups and it seems possible one of the girls launches into the lads flailing like a banshee .. it all kicks off and the 2nd girl wades in and there is a general affray !
I note that this isn’t an appeal from the Met, but someone picking up on a FB post from one of those involved, and the comments from the Met are rather non commital and treating it as an assault and Robbery
Violence, robbery and homophobia can never be right but I’d be intrigued to see the cctv if there is any
Girls can be just as angry, violent and aggressive as guys especially if there is drink involved
Interesting to see how it develops
Two - if your allegations are true, I wonder why the girls would be angry about getting coins pelted at them and homophobic abuse ...
Two .. two wrongs don’t make a right . Not my allegations at all .. just reading the reports .. which in my experience leaves a lot of questions to be asked
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