Gulf of Oman incidents

[NRS]

Pesty said:

Does it matter?

If one of our ships was taken somewhere for whatever reason would we then take one back in revenge?

No we wouldn’t and no reasonable country would, they are scumbag terrorist supporting extremist who grow stronger the longer the civilised world tolerates their bullst .

Would any reasonable country go to war over a made up lie? We're not exactly innocents in the whole middle east mess...

[Gadgetmac]

Burwood said:

Aren't some of the crew Russian? What has Putin got to say about that?

The oil tanker taken by the UK was on its way to his best bud Bashar al-Assad so why would he be upset about a couple of his citizens being detained for a day or two in the cause of upsetting us?

[biggbn]

NRS said:

Would any reasonable country go to war over a made up lie? We're not exactly innocents in the whole middle east mess...

Gulf war?

[GT03ROB]

Pesty said:

No we wouldn’t and no reasonable country would, they are scumbag terrorist supporting extremist who grow stronger the longer the civilised world tolerates their bullst .

So not unlike our "friends" across the Gulf. It is convenient to portray the Iranians as scumbag nutters. I suspect you will find they are anything but. They are politically astute & militarily strong. If we could find it to deal with them, a lot of problems in the region would disappear. They will get a bomb whatever we try to do to stop it.

[Gadgetmac]

GT03ROB said:

Pesty said:

No we wouldn’t and no reasonable country would, they are scumbag terrorist supporting extremist who grow stronger the longer the civilised world tolerates their bullst .

So not unlike our "friends" across the Gulf. It is convenient to portray the Iranians as scumbag nutters. I suspect you will find they are anything but. They are politically astute & militarily strong. If we could find it to deal with them, a lot of problems in the region would disappear. They will get a bomb whatever we try to do to stop it.

Ultimately anyone who REALLY wants the bomb will get it. Pakistan, India, Israel and North Korea already have it. The genie is out of the bottle, they all know HOW to make a bomb so it's just a matter of WHEN they make it. Make no mistake though, you can't hold it back forever.

[wombleh]

It's not a build up, just a shift changeover:
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/mod-deny-uk-milita...

[6th Gear]

https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/iran-passes-...

[Countdown]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...

Javed Zarif said:

Make no mistake. Having failed to lure Donald Trump into a War of the Century, and fearing collapse of his B Team, John Bolton is turning his venom against the UK in hopes of dragging it into a quagmire.”

John Bolton deliberately avoided Vietnam as he "had no desire to die in a South East Asian rice paddy"

[anonymous-user]

Wonder if Mrs May is going to sit there and say well I have called the COBRA stuff but I'm off on Wednesday.
So what we need is a statement that makes it look like we are doing something. It just has to sound good and leave the options open for Boris and whoever his crew is to do what they want to do.
Any ideas Major ?
Tea anyone ?

[Condi]

Countdown said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...

Javed Zarif said:

Make no mistake. Having failed to lure Donald Trump into a War of the Century, and fearing collapse of his B Team, John Bolton is turning his venom against the UK in hopes of dragging it into a quagmire.”

John Bolton deliberately avoided Vietnam as he "had no desire to die in a South East Asian rice paddy"

John Bolton is a dangerous psychopath who would like nothing better than to nuke half the Middle East, although of course, like Trump, he avoided military service himself. The fact that man is anywhere near the decision making table shows how badly the US administration is managed.

[Mothersruin]

Is it fully clarified that the tanker seizure near Gibraltar was legal under international law due to sanctions?

[Fundoreen]

may must have rubber stamped the fearless capture of some hapless merchant seaman driving a tanker around to hand boris a mess and ruin his summer holidays.

[amgmcqueen]

Is this another catastrophic fk up by calamity May?

[anonymous-user]

Fundoreen said:

may must have rubber stamped the fearless capture of some hapless merchant seaman driving a tanker around to hand boris a mess and ruin his summer holidays.

She might have been watching that Bond Film Tomorrow never Dies and thought hmmmm
GPS Encoder I'll have some of that.

[Pastor Of Muppets]

amgmcqueen said:

Is this another catastrophic fk up by calamity May?

How do you think Corbyn Monoxide would be dealing with the situation if he was at the helm?.

[Gameface]

Pastor Of Muppets said:

amgmcqueen said:

Is this another catastrophic fk up by calamity May?

How do you think Corbyn Monoxide would be dealing with the situation if he was at the helm?.

Cups of tea for all concerned?

[Fundoreen]

LOL on the corbyn. He wouldnt have rubberstamped an action that would hape reaped a similar response.
The rest of the world is having its energy security undermined by the UK and the USA at the moment but are apparently
meant to join some sort of league of morons.

[Art0ir]

Mothersruin said:

Is it fully clarified that the tanker seizure near Gibraltar was legal under international law due to sanctions?

Sanctions aside, it looks like Panama cancelled it's registration in May which means it was potentially flagless. That alone gives remit to seize.

[Countdown]

Pastor Of Muppets said:

amgmcqueen said:

Is this another catastrophic fk up by calamity May?

How do you think Corbyn Monoxide would be dealing with the situation if he was at the helm?.

My guess is he wouldn't have particularly cared about US pressure and ordered the RM to seize the tanker.

Which in turn wouldn't have p155ed off the Iranians.

I have no problem with p155ing off Iranians but not solely for the benefit of other Countries.

[wc98]

maybe if we had a functional aircraft carrier in the region this wouldn't have occurred ?