Gulf of Oman incidents
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Burwood said:
spot on-photographed 2 miles off the Syrian coast. Lying liar pants on fire
Yep, no real surprise !If they lie so easily about this then why would anyone trust them regards deal to limit their nuclear activities ?
Should be interesting to see what UK/US/EU response is ....
milkround said:
Caveat - I know very little about this stuff.
But what right do we or the Americans have to dictate what other countries do with other countries when it comes to something as trivial as oil/fuel?
We sell arms to some of the most disgusting and horrific regimes around. We keep company with Saudi even after they brutally tortured and murdered a journalist in a foreign embassy. Rather than saying how other nations interact with other nations should we not get our own house in order?
We even turned an eye and helped the Americans when they were spiriting away people for torture, even when they were british citizens.
The tanker was originally detained under EU sanctions.But what right do we or the Americans have to dictate what other countries do with other countries when it comes to something as trivial as oil/fuel?
We sell arms to some of the most disgusting and horrific regimes around. We keep company with Saudi even after they brutally tortured and murdered a journalist in a foreign embassy. Rather than saying how other nations interact with other nations should we not get our own house in order?
We even turned an eye and helped the Americans when they were spiriting away people for torture, even when they were british citizens.
Escy said:
How do EU sanctions apply to a deal between Iran and Syria?
They don't , the EU sanctions are regarding SyriaOverview
Ofcourse, if only Iraq wasn't between Iran & Syria, Iran could have just set up a pipeline instead of having to use a tanker to go thousands of miles around virtually the whole of Africa
Escy said:
Iran isn't in the EU so I don't see how the sanctions apply to them.
You have a s
t neighbour who is causing you loads of trouble. They are causing you trouble because they are off the heads on booze. They get the booze delivered and for that to happen the delivery guy needs to walk through your garden. You simply tell them they can't anymore, you also go the the shop that's delivering it. Which your company buys huge amounts of stock from and you say if you continue to sell booze to that one customer I'm going to stop buying from you.
Not-The-Messiah said:
You have a neighbour who doesnt give a st what you say. Despite you continually being a pain in the arse, parking on his driveway, your kids throwing stones through his window on an almost daily basis. Luckily for you the Police are all in your pocket so there's little he can do in the meantime, however he's building a bigger fence and threatening to get a dog which is going to bite your spoilt kids' arse if they keep acting like dicks.
So now one of the things you're trying to do is to stop the Postman and any delivery drivers dropping his mail and parcels. It's just one of the many things you're doing because you're a dick.
FTFYt what you say. Despite you continually being a pain in the arse, parking on his driveway, your kids throwing stones through his window on an almost daily basis. Luckily for you the Police are all in your pocket so there's little he can do in the meantime, however he's building a bigger fence and threatening to get a dog which is going to bite your spoilt kids' arse if they keep acting like dicks. So now one of the things you're trying to do is to stop the Postman and any delivery drivers dropping his mail and parcels. It's just one of the many things you're doing because you're a dick.
Countdown said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
You have a neighbour who doesnt give a st what you say. Despite you continually being a pain in the arse, parking on his driveway, your kids throwing stones through his window on an almost daily basis. Luckily for you the Police are all in your pocket so there's little he can do in the meantime, however he's building a bigger fence and threatening to get a dog which is going to bite your spoilt kids' arse if they keep acting like dicks.
So now one of the things you're trying to do is to stop the Postman and any delivery drivers dropping his mail and parcels. It's just one of the many things you're doing because you're a dick.
FTFYt what you say. Despite you continually being a pain in the arse, parking on his driveway, your kids throwing stones through his window on an almost daily basis. Luckily for you the Police are all in your pocket so there's little he can do in the meantime, however he's building a bigger fence and threatening to get a dog which is going to bite your spoilt kids' arse if they keep acting like dicks. So now one of the things you're trying to do is to stop the Postman and any delivery drivers dropping his mail and parcels. It's just one of the many things you're doing because you're a dick.
You are not really being a dick.
You could go in a beat to death the guy but we've done that a few time before, ended up with a broken arm, stabbed and it's cost a fortune. Then after all that the wife just ends up marrying another idiot who ends up being even worse.
Not-The-Messiah said:
If your neighbour when pissed is beating his kids and wife to death. Which is really what the Syrian regime as been doing.
You are not really being a dick.
You are when your primary purpose has got nothing to do with him beating his own wife and kids. It's to do with ensuring the Iranians become weaker by destabilising one of their few remaining allies in the region.You are not really being a dick.
Not-The-Messiah said:
You could go in a beat to death the guy but we've done that a few time before, ended up with a broken arm, stabbed and it's cost a fortune. Then after all that the wife just ends up marrying another idiot who ends up being even worse.
Again, you didn't give a toss about the wife and kids. You would be quite happy for him to beat them up on a regular basis as long as he did what you said. In fact you're quite happy to sell arms to other neighbours who behave far far worse to their own wife and kids, so picking on this particular guy "because of his domestic abuse" issues is just hypocrisy on a massive scale.Iranian ambassador now summoned to explain themselves.
Hasn't Iran still got the uk tanker that supposedly hit a fishing boat, whilst there's has gone and done exactly what they promised not to do?
That's like 2-0 to Iran. The usa must be fuming, so it's a good job John Bolton is out or else I think there would have been "trouble".
Hasn't Iran still got the uk tanker that supposedly hit a fishing boat, whilst there's has gone and done exactly what they promised not to do?
That's like 2-0 to Iran. The usa must be fuming, so it's a good job John Bolton is out or else I think there would have been "trouble".
Ian Geary said:
Iranian ambassador now summoned to explain themselves.
Hasn't Iran still got the uk tanker that supposedly hit a fishing boat, whilst there's has gone and done exactly what they promised not to do?
That's like 2-0 to Iran. The usa must be fuming, so it's a good job John Bolton is out or else I think there would have been "trouble".
Iran are basically holding our tanker hostage until its completely done and dusted (and probably half way back to the Persian Gulf) before they release the Stena Imperio. They probably dont trust the US to fHasn't Iran still got the uk tanker that supposedly hit a fishing boat, whilst there's has gone and done exactly what they promised not to do?
That's like 2-0 to Iran. The usa must be fuming, so it's a good job John Bolton is out or else I think there would have been "trouble".
k things up again.Shock, horror! Bibi has made another presentation about Iran.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-new-iran-...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-new-iran-...
“Drone attacks have set alight two major oil facilities run by the state-owned company Aramco in Saudi Arabia, state media say.
Footage showed flames and huge palls of smoke over Abqaiq, site of Aramco's largest oil processing plant.
A second drone attack also started fires in the Khurais oilfield to the west. The fires are now under control at both facilities, state media said.
Iran-aligned Houthi fighters in Yemen have been blamed for previous attacks.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49699...
Footage showed flames and huge palls of smoke over Abqaiq, site of Aramco's largest oil processing plant.
A second drone attack also started fires in the Khurais oilfield to the west. The fires are now under control at both facilities, state media said.
Iran-aligned Houthi fighters in Yemen have been blamed for previous attacks.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49699...
BlackLabel said:
“Drone attacks have set alight two major oil facilities run by the state-owned company Aramco in Saudi Arabia, state media say.
Footage showed flames and huge palls of smoke over Abqaiq, site of Aramco's largest oil processing plant.
A second drone attack also started fires in the Khurais oilfield to the west. The fires are now under control at both facilities, state media said.
Iran-aligned Houthi fighters in Yemen have been blamed for previous attacks.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49699...
The Yemen war is turning out to be similar to Vietnam for MBS and Saudi Arabia. Similar to then we have an advanced military with state of the art weapons against cheap weapons but with combatants having more desire to win. Footage showed flames and huge palls of smoke over Abqaiq, site of Aramco's largest oil processing plant.
A second drone attack also started fires in the Khurais oilfield to the west. The fires are now under control at both facilities, state media said.
Iran-aligned Houthi fighters in Yemen have been blamed for previous attacks.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49699...
Where Vietnam was communism v capitalism when actually it was nationalism, this is now Sunni v Shia but actually nationalism again.
The Sunni forces even have different game plans, the UAE, which has done most of the grunt work, wants to support tribal Sunni elements in Yemen, whilst Saudi want to support more extreme jihadist factions. The UAE therefore is now cutting back on support.
Saudi rolled tanks into mainly Shia Bahrain of course after the demonstrations there, that and cutting off Qatar for not being anti Iran enough probably led to MBS thinking a campaign in Yemen would go well. Wrong.
Currently, even with the very complex ties between all the royals, we have Oman and Qatar as black sheep and UAE getting cold feet.
And no USA. Donald will not risk any intervention to upset the economy of the USA before 2020 elections, even when the Iranians shoot down a US asset. China are still getting Iranian oil.....
Saudi are fecked. MBS is their worst leader whilst the King is too sick to actually rule. He reminds me of Germany in the 1930s.
Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 14th September 10:26
Gandahar said:
BlackLabel said:
“Drone attacks have set alight two major oil facilities run by the state-owned company Aramco in Saudi Arabia, state media say.
Footage showed flames and huge palls of smoke over Abqaiq, site of Aramco's largest oil processing plant.
A second drone attack also started fires in the Khurais oilfield to the west. The fires are now under control at both facilities, state media said.
Iran-aligned Houthi fighters in Yemen have been blamed for previous attacks.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49699...
The Yemen war is turning out to be similar to Vietnam for MBS and Saudi Arabia. Similar to then we have an advanced military with state of the art weapons against cheap weapons but with combatants having more desire to win. Footage showed flames and huge palls of smoke over Abqaiq, site of Aramco's largest oil processing plant.
A second drone attack also started fires in the Khurais oilfield to the west. The fires are now under control at both facilities, state media said.
Iran-aligned Houthi fighters in Yemen have been blamed for previous attacks.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49699...
Where Vietnam was communism v capitalism when actually it was nationalism, this is now Sunni v Shia but actually nationalism again.
The Sunni forces even have different game plans, the UAE, which has done most of the grunt work, wants to support tribal Sunni elements in Yemen, whilst Saudi want to support more extreme jihadist factions. The UAE therefore is now cutting back on support.
Saudi rolled tanks into mainly Shia Bahrain of course after the demonstrations there, that and cutting off Qatar for not being anti Iran enough probably led to MBS thinking a campaign in Yemen would go well. Wrong.
Currently, even with the very complex ties between all the royals, we have Oman and Qatar as black sheep and UAE getting cold feet.
And no USA. Donald will not risk any intervention to upset the economy of the USA before 2020 elections, even when the Iranians shoot down a US asset. China are still getting Iranian oil.....
Saudi are fecked. MBS is their worst leader whilst the King is too sick to actually rule. He reminds me of Germany in the 1930s.
Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 14th September 10:26
You are somewhat off what the issues is, there is country where most of the male population has lived under war conditions for generations, these men are many, fearless and far past giving a f
k about life unlike "comfortable" saudi soldiers. Saudis literally need to execute whole population to win this warGassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff