Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

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DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Brave Fart said:
Laurence Fox - note the spelling of his first name - was actually rather kind about them on QT. He said that the situation was difficult, that they had a new baby which is a factor, and that he empathised. Hardly weird or unhealthy.
I think you're looking for something (racism) which simply isn't there. Which, sorry to say, is a bit weird and unhealthy.

Still, provide some specific examples of racist comments by the British press about Meghan - not just criticism that you assume is racist - and your assertion can be proved.
He is also on record as calling them "ultra woke hypocrites" who should just "fk off". He also has issues with the "MeToo" campaign.

Perhaps he is like some of PH's very own MGTOWs?

After all his views on Trump include wandering around London in a Make America Great Again hat.......so the hat would quite literally fit.

PushedDover

5,650 posts

53 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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This thread for the last 48 to 72 hrs kinda exemplifies the whole point Mr Fox makes in general - on QT, on the Trigonometry vlog, and in the medias (sic)

All opinions are now becoming binary. The projection of them is becoming ‘ultra right, ultra wrong’ and fundamentally (as exemplified by the distortion of this thread) - overrules debate, discussion and understanding.

Options are allowed to be varied
Opinions from the opposite ends of the spectrum become extreme and vocal point scoring
Those in the middle or can see beyond the hatred shake their heads and think ‘fking idiots’

So those arguing about Mr Foxs views also have a large volume of onlookers hoping the thread gets back on topic and away from this petty point scoring- whilst likely thinking “fking idiots”

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Too right
I think next celebrity they should have on is Charlotte Church
I think she was excellent last time
Or George the Poet

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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techiedave said:
Too right
I think next celebrity they should have on is me Techiedave, and Helicopter123
I think they could be excellent
Or Lilly Allen
FTFU


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Dont like rolls said:
techiedave said:
Too right
I think next celebrity they should have on is me Techiedave, and Helicopter123
I think they could be excellent
Or Lilly Allen
FTFU
Too soon for Lily and she doesn't have an album coming out. Besides Lily does best when she gets her own longer slots gigs. It was only down to the Licence fee that the BBC were able to get her into those places apologising on behalf of the British people
But this threads about Question Time not a sultry songstress who pens amusing little ditties.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I think the sheer stupidity of the racist woman in the audience not seeing her own racism while making an unsubstantiated allegation of racism shows what's wrong with today's (and tomorrows) society as these are the teachers/lecturers that have a grip on our young

bobbo89

5,210 posts

145 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
Brave Fart said:
Laurence Fox - note the spelling of his first name - was actually rather kind about them on QT. He said that the situation was difficult, that they had a new baby which is a factor, and that he empathised. Hardly weird or unhealthy.
I think you're looking for something (racism) which simply isn't there. Which, sorry to say, is a bit weird and unhealthy.


Still, provide some specific examples of racist comments by the British press about Meghan - not just criticism that you assume is racist - and your assertion can be proved.
He is also on record as calling them "ultra woke hypocrites" who should just "fk off". He also has issues with the "MeToo" campaign.

Perhaps he is like some of PH's very own MGTOWs?

After all his views on Trump include wandering around London in a Make America Great Again hat.......so the hat would quite literally fit.
You ignoring this bit?

Garvin

5,171 posts

177 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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bobbo89 said:
DeepEnd said:
Brave Fart said:
Laurence Fox - note the spelling of his first name - was actually rather kind about them on QT. He said that the situation was difficult, that they had a new baby which is a factor, and that he empathised. Hardly weird or unhealthy.
I think you're looking for something (racism) which simply isn't there. Which, sorry to say, is a bit weird and unhealthy.


Still, provide some specific examples of racist comments by the British press about Meghan - not just criticism that you assume is racist - and your assertion can be proved.
He is also on record as calling them "ultra woke hypocrites" who should just "fk off". He also has issues with the "MeToo" campaign.

Perhaps he is like some of PH's very own MGTOWs?

After all his views on Trump include wandering around London in a Make America Great Again hat.......so the hat would quite literally fit.
You ignoring this bit?
Ignoring it? I don’t think so, he just can’t produce any proof whatsoever to back up his vile assertions. So dim he cannot grasp the fact that he is the absolute epitome of what Fox was stating.

Cobnapint

8,627 posts

151 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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techiedave said:
To put this into some perspective

If you were Mr Fox or pretty much anyone with a high profile on Twitter and you poste that you would be crucified for the use of just 2 words
half cast
You would in all likelihood be heavily slagged for using that description
Crazy, but true. People of 'non-colour' aren't allowed to openly quote facts regarding skin colour or gender anymore. Yet watch Live at the Apollo and without exception, every single black (there I go again) comedian/enne can't help but include a piece that refers to their own skin colour and/or race in their routines. It's so tiresome. Why do they feel the need to do it? Just get on with making us laugh FFS.

768

13,673 posts

96 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
Why the hell is Fox critical of them anyway? What have they done wrong exactly? Does he know them or her? It's just a bit weird and unhealthy.
Pot, meet your posting history.

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
The only people that constantly seem to only see the colour of people are those trying to only see them as a victim in need of protection - the rest of us just see them as David, Jen, Constance, Silvia, Avinash, Louis, Ayisha, Simon etc... and quite happy to get on for themselves.

Brave Fart

5,720 posts

111 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
Hey DeepEnd, how are those specific examples of racism by the British press towards Meghan coming along?
Or are you too busy deflecting attention by pursuing some weird and unhealthy "I dislike Laurence" tangent?

FWIW

3,069 posts

97 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Brave Fart said:
Hey DeepEnd, how are those specific examples of racism by the British press towards Meghan coming along?
Or are you too busy deflecting attention by pursuing some weird and unhealthy "I dislike Laurence" tangent?
That’s precisely what he’s doing. You know it, we know it...him? I’m not so sure.

PushedDover

5,650 posts

53 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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WOrth a listen on the BBC sounds / Iplayer for the Equity rep on Radio 4 Today programme this morning a little after 7:30.

Talk about outrage that is unsubstantiated .


Part of the entire problem.

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
Man says he doesn't date people with specific politics.

People with specific politics feel so aggravated that they have to write a whole article about "well I wouldn't date him anyway".

And you think they're the winners?

The lack of self awareness here is astonishing.

Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Tuna said:
Man says he doesn't date people with specific politics.

People with specific politics feel so aggravated that they have to write a whole article about "well I wouldn't date him anyway".

And you think they're the winners?

The lack of self awareness here is astonishing.
I always find this odd, (assuming Mrs Graveworm passes on or tires of me) I wouldn't date anyone with religious beliefs. I am not religiophobic just would be a recipe for disaster. Personally I would also like to be able to examine it, when considering anyone for employment that requires critical thinking, but I understand that I may not, that's not the same thing.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Those on the left preach tolerance and equality, but are only tolerant of those with views they agree with and certainly don't give equality of anything to those they disagree with

It's hypocrisy of the highest order and as with Brexit, it would appear that those with the greatest media presence (journalists, actors, singers,etc) are out of step with the majority of the public.

Fox simply expressed the views of the silent majority which is to say get out of your backside and get into the real world

The question on a female leader for the labour party was for me the most telling - shami chakrabarti was made to look like a complete tit

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Tuna said:
Man says he doesn't date people with specific politics.

People with specific politics feel so aggravated that they have to write a whole article about "well I wouldn't date him anyway".

And you think they're the winners?

The lack of self awareness here is astonishing.
I’m surprised you are putting your head up on this Tuna.

The real lack of self awareness issue comes from a bloke saying he has strong views on who he won’t date. It reveals serious issues which become obvious when you look into his outbursts since his divorce. If you can’t see that.....

It is Fox attacking people, not the other way round, where others are just laughing at the absurdity of his tantrums and anger at the world and how it has “wronged” him. The pattern is well developed across various topics.


Edited by DeepEnd on Tuesday 21st January 17:26

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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jonby said:
Those on the left preach tolerance and equality, but are only tolerant of those with views they agree with and certainly don't give equality of anything to those they disagree with

It's hypocrisy of the highest order and as with Brexit, it would appear that those with the greatest media presence (journalists, actors, singers,etc) are out of step with the majority of the public.

Fox simply expressed the views of the silent majority which is to say get out of your backside and get into the real world

The question on a female leader for the labour party was for me the most telling - shami chakrabarti was made to look like a complete tit
Firstly it isn’t a tolerance issue. Pointing out deep seated misogyny doesn’t make someone intolerant, it makes them observant. That it might upset those with who are patent misogynists is not their problem.

Lastly, Shami’s point on “what about a women” was a cheap pointless shot but his reaction - oh my days the mask was on the floor. He should have calmly said he thought Kier was still the best candidate for all the right reasons, but oh no he was uber triggered. I wonder if she knew......