Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3
Discussion
Thorodin said:
I've said before, now I mean it. I cannot take any more Fiona. Can only suppose her lack of competence will eventually see her collect her cards and stick to the usual mindless platitudes to elderly people on antiques shows. How not to run a debate show or what.
Unlikely. It is the BBC, and as she is female I suspect she is beyond criticism.
Thorodin said:
I've said before, now I mean it. I cannot take any more Fiona. Can only suppose her lack of competence will eventually see her collect her cards and stick to the usual mindless platitudes to elderly people on antiques shows. How not to run a debate show or what.
I don't think she's as bad as some are making out - apart from - whenever someone from the government is on, she can't help but interupt and over pressurise them during their first opening answer. Sometimes it appears to be done just for the sake of it.Marr does it too every Sunday morning. Must be a BBC thing.
Cobnapint said:
I don't think she's as bad as some are making out - apart from - whenever someone from the government is on, she can't help but interupt and over pressurise them during their first opening answer. Sometimes it appears to be done just for the sake of it.
Marr does it too every Sunday morning. Must be a BBC thing.
Two examples of it, both from the BBC.Marr does it too every Sunday morning. Must be a BBC thing.
MUST be
Watched a bit of it. So glad that the Conservative guy said they are having weekly COBRA meetings about the virus and we will be prepared across government, because you know, we're having weekly COBRA meetings. Other than having weekly COBRA meetings, I didn't hear him suggest anything about those COBRA meetings actually coming up with any useful ideas or actions.
How many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
How many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
biggles330d said:
Watched a bit of it. So glad that the Conservative guy said they are having weekly COBRA meetings about the virus and we will be prepared across government, because you know, we're having weekly COBRA meetings. Other than having weekly COBRA meetings, I didn't hear him suggest anything about those COBRA meetings actually coming up with any useful ideas or actions.
How many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
I think he meant he was watching COBRA weeklyHow many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
biggles330d said:
Watched a bit of it. So glad that the Conservative guy said they are having weekly COBRA meetings about the virus and we will be prepared across government, because you know, we're having weekly COBRA meetings. Other than having weekly COBRA meetings, I didn't hear him suggest anything about those COBRA meetings actually coming up with any useful ideas or actions.
How many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
Typical govt response.How many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
"we are doing some work, and we will continue to do some work"
Probably because telling people what will happen if things go south is that the Civil Contingencies Act will be used to commandeer stuff and people to deal with things summarily, such as using big pits, lime and diggers when bodies start piling up, tends to play badly regardless of it being realistic.
hidetheelephants said:
Probably because telling people what will happen if things go south is that the Civil Contingencies Act will be used to commandeer stuff and people to deal with things summarily, such as using big pits, lime and diggers when bodies start piling up, tends to play badly regardless of it being realistic.
Yup ... we live in a time when "managing" expectations is far more important to govt than actually meeting them.biggles330d said:
Watched a bit of it. So glad that the Conservative guy said they are having weekly COBRA meetings about the virus and we will be prepared across government, because you know, we're having weekly COBRA meetings. Other than having weekly COBRA meetings, I didn't hear him suggest anything about those COBRA meetings actually coming up with any useful ideas or actions.
How many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.How many times was he asked where the medical staff would come from? Rest assured, we're having weekly COBRA meetings and all will be ok. FFS. Confidence inspiring stuff.
Listening to 'Any Questions' on R4 the other week, the braying that was going on that Boris had not turned up to the Floods in his wellies........ because the public wants to see him / them in action.
Someone must be responsible for the floods. Surely.
I would argue that a PM / politician would hopefully be more useful in a Whitehall / Cobra meeting than in a puddle in weelies, but no - the public want a wet MP / PM in wellies.
Cupramax said:
Everyone seems to forget that the monumental f
k up caused by the banks and abetted by Gordons disaster area of a government is what kicked off all this nasty austerity. Yet it’s all down to those nasty tories.
Well, indeed. And yet, according to some bloke who sells the Big Issue, what we should have done is borrow even more, to spend our way out of our problems. Yes folks, when your overdraft and credit card is maxed out, what you should do is get a payday loan to allow even more spending.........k up caused by the banks and abetted by Gordons disaster area of a government is what kicked off all this nasty austerity. Yet it’s all down to those nasty tories. I despair of the narrative espoused by people like Birt and Ashworth; they just can't see that austerity (mild as it's been) was the fault of crazy overspending by the Loony Left. "More crazy overspending" would have been their answer, and heaven knows where we'd be now if they had had their way.
Brave Fart said:
I despair of the narrative espoused by people like Birt and Ashworth; they just can't see that austerity (mild as it's been) was the fault of crazy overspending by the Loony Left. "More crazy overspending" would have been their answer, and heaven knows where we'd be now if they had had their way.
While "only spend what you earned" and "credit costs money" are fine sayings for household budgets,there is a line of economic thought (Keynes ?) that governments can always raise taxes in the
future and so can spend their way out of recession, in the way that a household can't.
In my view, putting up future tax bills for my children and grand children is a dreadful thing to do.
Criminally reckless, some say.
Yes austerity was painful for a few folks relying on the Government for their daily bread,
but putting up future tax bills for us all, our children and our grandchildren is a bigger sin.
The sooner the Labour Party recognise that not every problem can be solved by
chucking my hard earned money at it the more likely they will be viewed as economically
rational.
Until then, we have the intellectual colossi that are John Ashworth, Richard Burgon
and Dianne Abbott offering us advice on economic matters.
dcb said:
While "only spend what you earned" and "credit costs money" are fine sayings for household budgets,
there is a line of economic thought (Keynes ?) that governments can always raise taxes in the
future and so can spend their way out of recession, in the way that a household can't.
In my view, putting up future tax bills for my children and grand children is a dreadful thing to do.
Criminally reckless, some say.
Yes austerity was painful for a few folks relying on the Government for their daily bread,
but putting up future tax bills for us all, our children and our grandchildren is a bigger sin.
The sooner the Labour Party recognise that not every problem can be solved by
chucking my hard earned money at it the more likely they will be viewed as economically
rational.
Until then, we have the intellectual colossi that are John Ashworth, Richard Burgon
and Dianne Abbott offering us advice on economic matters.
And even Keynes's view was that you build up a surplus in the good times to balance out the deficit in the bad. So not relevant to a situation where expenditure massively exceeded revenue even in the good times.there is a line of economic thought (Keynes ?) that governments can always raise taxes in the
future and so can spend their way out of recession, in the way that a household can't.
In my view, putting up future tax bills for my children and grand children is a dreadful thing to do.
Criminally reckless, some say.
Yes austerity was painful for a few folks relying on the Government for their daily bread,
but putting up future tax bills for us all, our children and our grandchildren is a bigger sin.
The sooner the Labour Party recognise that not every problem can be solved by
chucking my hard earned money at it the more likely they will be viewed as economically
rational.
Until then, we have the intellectual colossi that are John Ashworth, Richard Burgon
and Dianne Abbott offering us advice on economic matters.
anonymous said:
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Added to which was the spread of smoking to women. The BBC somehow forgot to mention the below statistics when it was talking of falling female life expectancy in deprived areas. https://ash.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ASH-...
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