Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

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Crippo

1,186 posts

220 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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I stopped watching when Covid came along and stopped the Live audiences. Its now just like watching a Zoom meeting.

To be honest its been pretty crap for years as most of the guests just agree with one another or just aren't very intelligent, there are lots of very obvious platitudes spouted. The odd entertaining guest made it fun but unfortunately too few and far between.

When the live audiences come back I may choose to give it another go.

Bonefish Blues

26,674 posts

223 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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It showed what had been missing. The Panel also seemed to give a st, which was welcome, and hasn't always been the case over the last year or several.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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Nice to see General Brigadier Commander of the British fk Up Carter DCO and bar getting a drubbing. Useless .

jesusbuiltmycar

4,537 posts

254 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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Rory Stewart will be interesting as he has lived in Afghanistan

wikipedia said:
Born in British Hong Kong, Stewart was educated at the Dragon School and Eton College. After studying at Balliol College, Oxford Stewart worked for Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service as a diplomat in Indonesia and as British Representative to Montenegro. He left the diplomatic service to undertake a two-year walk across Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, India and Nepal. He later wrote a best-selling book, The Places in Between, about his experiences. He subsequently served as a Deputy Governor in Maysan and Dhi Qar for the Coalition Provisional Authority following the 2003 invasion of Iraq and wrote a second book covering this period, Occupational Hazards or The Prince of the Marshes. In 2005 he moved to Kabul to establish and run the Turquoise Mountain Foundation. He was the Ryan Family Professor of Human Rights and the Director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University from 2008 to 2010.

Bonefish Blues

26,674 posts

223 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
Rory Stewart will be interesting as he has lived in Afghanistan

wikipedia said:
Born in British Hong Kong, Stewart was educated at the Dragon School and Eton College. After studying at Balliol College, Oxford Stewart worked for Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service as a diplomat in Indonesia and as British Representative to Montenegro. He left the diplomatic service to undertake a two-year walk across Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, India and Nepal. He later wrote a best-selling book, The Places in Between, about his experiences. He subsequently served as a Deputy Governor in Maysan and Dhi Qar for the Coalition Provisional Authority following the 2003 invasion of Iraq and wrote a second book covering this period, Occupational Hazards or The Prince of the Marshes. In 2005 he moved to Kabul to establish and run the Turquoise Mountain Foundation. He was the Ryan Family Professor of Human Rights and the Director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University from 2008 to 2010.
iPlayer is already your friend:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000z84j/que...

greygoose

8,258 posts

195 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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Bonefish Blues said:
Cleverley is quietly effective in a ststorm, to be fair to the bloke.

I caught the last 40 or so minutes and thought that was a worthwhile session.
I’m not convinced that droning on about something other than the question asked is being effective.

Bonefish Blues

26,674 posts

223 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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greygoose said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Cleverley is quietly effective in a ststorm, to be fair to the bloke.

I caught the last 40 or so minutes and thought that was a worthwhile session.
I’m not convinced that droning on about something other than the question asked is being effective.
He's there so people can be cross with him and he can be calm and earnest under fire. He's not being fielded to answer questions - indeed he's got naff all authority to make any promises or provide any insight into things outside his remit as, er, well the Government's Whipping Boy-In-Chief

anonymoususer

5,807 posts

48 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Crippo said:
I stopped watching when Covid came along and stopped the Live audiences. Its now just like watching a Zoom meeting.

To be honest its been pretty crap for years as most of the guests just agree with one another or just aren't very intelligent, there are lots of very obvious platitudes spouted. The odd entertaining guest made it fun but unfortunately too few and far between.

When the live audiences come back I may choose to give it another go.
This one had a live audience.
One of the panellists was a remote live screen thing.
What was also a bit different was you didn't have the celebrity panellist with a tenuous link to whatever on
The live audience did make a difference but perhaps just as crucially it was clearly a rush job and the audience didn't look (from what I saw - I wasn't studying it in detail) to have been far from capacity. There were a fair few empty chairs.

For those interested it's getting a quick repeat tonight on BBC 1 at 11.35pm and then again on BBC 2 1.50 AM (this is then followed by a documentary about the riots 10 years ago)

The programme normal returns on 16th September (4 weeks tonight)

abzmike

8,363 posts

106 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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anonymoususer said:
This one had a live audience.
One of the panellists was a remote live screen thing.
What was also a bit different was you didn't have the celebrity panellist with a tenuous link to whatever on
The live audience did make a difference but perhaps just as crucially it was clearly a rush job and the audience didn't look (from what I saw - I wasn't studying it in detail) to have been far from capacity. There were a fair few empty chairs.

For those interested it's getting a quick repeat tonight on BBC 1 at 11.35pm and then again on BBC 2 1.50 AM (this is then followed by a documentary about the riots 10 years ago)

The programme normal returns on 16th September (4 weeks tonight)
The view of the audience at the start showed them not in the usual tiered seating, but rather in separate socially distanced chairs. There were probably about 25 of them, so not a full audience like the old days. Still screens between the panelist’s too.

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Bonefish Blues said:
Cleverley is quietly effective in a ststorm, to be fair to the bloke.

I caught the last 40 or so minutes and thought that was a worthwhile session.
Unfortunately the format has steadily moved to "Tory apologist of the day" and "Labour attack line of the day"... none of the MPs who come on provide any more information than the current party lines on whatever's being discussed. Not sure if that's the fault of social media for spreading the news first, or the parties for fielding "safe hands" to toe the party line.

Often , MPs will give some soundbite that we know is BS, particularly with the intense news coverage we get these days - yet the opposing MP will go for the "Media studies 101" response, accept the soundbite unconditionally and try to counter with an equally daft soundbite.

Or: Nandy and Cleverly go through the motions, it remains dull.

anonymoususer

5,807 posts

48 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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I'm starting to actively dislike Ms Nandy. I used to regard her as one of the more moderate Labour types with good intentions.
Unfortunately one thing I notice in her more and more is her ability to portray herself as some kind of angel of the north.


Bonefish Blues

26,674 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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anonymoususer said:
I'm starting to actively dislike Ms Nandy. I used to regard her as one of the more moderate Labour types with good intentions.
Unfortunately one thing I notice in her more and more is her ability to portray herself as some kind of angel of the north.
I agree. I'd rather have Jess Phillips please, who seems very impressive and sensible every time I hear her, but seems not to be progressing within Labour ranks, for reasons unknown to me.

anonymoususer

5,807 posts

48 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Bonefish Blues said:
anonymoususer said:
I'm starting to actively dislike Ms Nandy. I used to regard her as one of the more moderate Labour types with good intentions.
Unfortunately one thing I notice in her more and more is her ability to portray herself as some kind of angel of the north.
I agree. I'd rather have Jess Phillips please, who seems very impressive and sensible every time I hear her, but seems not to be progressing within Labour ranks, for reasons unknown to me.
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Not for me thanks
I admit I was at one point actively promoting her but that was before I was cured of that sort of stuff.
each to their own and all that but I think she is a bit fake and her position isnt as secure as she would like to think it is.

Legacywr

12,120 posts

188 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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anonymoususer said:
I'm starting to actively dislike Ms Nandy. I used to regard her as one of the more moderate Labour types with good intentions.
Unfortunately one thing I notice in her more and more is her ability to portray herself as some kind of angel of the north.
She just talks over people. I had liked her too, until her previous appearance on QT, where she did exactly the same. She also can’t see why Labour lost the last elections, as she thinks the policies where good…

DukeDickson

4,721 posts

213 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Legacywr said:
anonymoususer said:
I'm starting to actively dislike Ms Nandy. I used to regard her as one of the more moderate Labour types with good intentions.
Unfortunately one thing I notice in her more and more is her ability to portray herself as some kind of angel of the north.
She just talks over people. I had liked her too, until her previous appearance on QT, where she did exactly the same. She also can’t see why Labour lost the last elections, as she thinks the policies where good…
She's dumb, as they all are (opposition wise). Try being a reasonable, or indeed any kind of opposition and it might just work.

Not remotely for me personally, but The Opposition wouldn't be upset if Wurzel was given a few bloody noses, or more of.

I'd at least like them to try.

Digger

14,663 posts

191 months

Thursday 16th September 2021
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Tonight . . . . coming Live from the centre of the universe . . . & apart from Mr A Neil, who are these people? Any clues?

Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon to dull the experience . . .

Biggus thingus

1,358 posts

44 months

Thursday 16th September 2021
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Blimey, BBC allowing a right pile on on A Neil!

Thought it 8 out 10 cats for a minute when that black writers society fella dragged out his light box! Pathetic!

That MP, jeez rabbit in the headlights and looks like he can't wait for it to finish

Ridgemont

6,565 posts

131 months

Thursday 16th September 2021
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Biggus thingus said:
Blimey, BBC allowing a right pile on on A Neil!

Thought it 8 out 10 cats for a minute when that black writers society fella dragged out his light box! Pathetic!

That MP, jeez rabbit in the headlights and looks like he can't wait for it to finish
Watched for 10 mins. The audience did my head in. Gave up.

hidetheelephants

24,289 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th September 2021
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Digger said:
Tonight . . . . coming Live from the centre of the universe . . . & apart from Mr A Neil, who are these people? Any clues?

Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon to dull the experience . . .
Kate Green, spokesperson against any govt policy but for nothing in particular lest someone be upset by it.
Brillo being quite reticent but talking sense.
Tory bloke toeing party line.
Non-politician; who he? Superficial points scoring.
Care industry rep a bit waffly.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Thursday 16th September 2021
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Non-politician on the left firing and missing on almost every point.

ETA Christ that was even more painful.