45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)

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Tartan Pixie

1,295 posts

94 months

Monday 24th June
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The white house 'Peace to Prosperity' page (middle east peace plan): https://www.whitehouse.gov/peacetoprosperity/unlea...
Narrative Document (pdf): https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019...
Detailed Programs (pdf): https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019...

Before even opening these documents I was struck by the filename, MEP-narrative-document_FINAL.pdf. Narrative document on its own is fairly crass because it shouts marketing exercise but then to have_FINAL in capital letters tells us there was several versions of the master document after it was completed, presumably as mistakes were corrected until someone in frustration wrote the word FINAL, I'm almost surprised they didn't use an exclamation mark.

Anyone who's worked on a complex document will be familiar with that naming system but it does not take a huge amount of time or professionalism to rename the document before release, especially on a document that has taken years to produce and is a major release that will be read by governments, journalists and interested parties worldwide.

Another hallmark of unprofessional work is that it has a lot of waffle and very little detail. There's some absolute crackers in here:

article said:
Just as the Japanese, South Korean, and Singaporean governments rose to meet the daunting challenges their societies faced at critical times in their respective histories, so too can the Palestinian leadership chart a new course for its people.
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Drawing from models used by Germany and Sweden, this program lays out a strategy for training, developing, and employing the next generation of Palestinian men and women business and civic leaders.
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Unique and exciting characteristics give the West Bank and Gaza the potential to transform into a successful global tourism destination. Very few places in the world are home to such remarkable historical and religious sites. In addition, over forty kilometers of coastline in Gaza along the Mediterranean Sea could develop into a modern metropolitan city overlooking the beach, drawing from examples like Beirut, Hong Kong, Lisbon, Rio de Janeiro, Singapore, and Tel Aviv.
All sounds lovely. As much as I can't wait to take a beach holiday in Gaza it does seem to be a touch optimistic to combine the export abilities of Japan, the education and training of Germany plus Portuguese levels of tourism in to one shining glorious future for the West Bank and Gaza.

All this is going to be achieved from a starting point of minimal tertiary industry, unreliable electricity supplies, internecine violence, military occupation and borders that are either restricted or closed completely. It will be done in ten years for a total cost of $50Bn, so $5Bn per year to bring a territory of several million people up to the standards of prosperity seen in Hong Kong and Tel Aviv. (Hong Kong annual government budget approx $65Bn, source)

Here's some more comedy for you:


I have no idea whatsoever how they came up with those graphs. There is no working shown and nothing to connect the contents of the document to reality.

Here's the best bit though, the $50Bn that's going to pay for all this doesn't exist. No one's actually agreed to stump up the cash, a fact that the report conveniently doesn't mention. As far as I can tell Kushner's plan is for everybody to be so impressed that the EU, Saudi, Japan and everyone else will jump to fund this wonderful opportunity.

A few problems being that the Palestinians won't even talk to Kushner and the Israelis don't want a prosperous Gaza linked to Egypt that could fund trouble on their southern border. When searching for responses I found nothing positive coming from the middle east and nothing at all so far released by the wealthier nations who would be expected to pay for all this.

I did however find that the group Parents Circle who had their funding cut by Trump were annoyed to find their photographs being used without permission in the report ( source). It's that professionalism thing again, Kushner seems unable to grasp what it is or why it's so important if you want to produce more than vapourware.

Halb

49,709 posts

130 months

Monday 24th June
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Lord.Vader said:
250 more pages smile
120 biggly ones!!

kowalski655

9,000 posts

90 months

Monday 24th June
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I'm amazed that Tom Clancy's ME peace plan from The Sum of All Fears hasn't been suggested by Trump (& claimed as his own of course!)

midenginedcoupe

4,502 posts

79 months

Monday 24th June
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Where's that "everything's fine" gif when you need it?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/oregon-statehouse-sh...

the article said:
Eleven of Oregon’s Senate Republicans fled the state this week to avoid a vote on a bill that would cap greenhouse emissions.
[...]
Republican Sen. Brian Boquist implied that police officers who pursued them should be ready to die. “Send bachelors and come heavily armed,” Boquist warned police in a televised interview shortly before his walkout.
[...]
Oregon State Police has recommended that the Capitol be closed tomorrow due to a possible militia threat.
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paramilitary members in Oregon and Idaho had “mobilized” in defense of the Republican lawmakers, and that they were willing to die for the legislators.
So now the GOP are openly siding with armed white supremacists, who are threatening coups and civil war.

But Trump's enabling of the far right is just a good laugh, right?

Lazermilk

2,753 posts

28 months

Monday 24th June
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midenginedcoupe said:
Where's that "everything's fine" gif when you need it?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/oregon-statehouse-sh...

the article said:
Eleven of Oregon’s Senate Republicans fled the state this week to avoid a vote on a bill that would cap greenhouse emissions.
[...]
Republican Sen. Brian Boquist implied that police officers who pursued them should be ready to die. “Send bachelors and come heavily armed,” Boquist warned police in a televised interview shortly before his walkout.
[...]
Oregon State Police has recommended that the Capitol be closed tomorrow due to a possible militia threat.
[...]
paramilitary members in Oregon and Idaho had “mobilized” in defense of the Republican lawmakers, and that they were willing to die for the legislators.
So now the GOP are openly siding with armed white supremacists, who are threatening coups and civil war.

But Trump's enabling of the far right is just a good laugh, right?


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In all seriousness though that is pretty insane, trump really is ruining the USA, I used to want to visit there but now not so much...

Ructions

3,717 posts

68 months

Monday 24th June
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Trump says he's sanctioning the Ayatollah Khomeini, who has been dead since 1989.

B'stard Child

18,946 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Ructions said:
Trump says he's sanctioning the Ayatollah Khomeini, who has been dead since 1989.
Does that matter biggrin

B'stard Child

18,946 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Lazermilk said:
In all seriousness though that is pretty insane, trump really is ruining the USA, I used to want to visit there but now not so much...
Been there more than a dozen times - the USA is the USA - makes no difference who is the president

It's a very diverse country from deliverance to wall street

Byker28i

20,361 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Tartan Pixie said:
The white house 'Peace to Prosperity' page (middle east peace plan):...
As said previously, it's just Kushners business plan to get others to invest in the area, allowing them to grow their business for property opportunities. It's wrapped up with some flowery language of 'economic opportunities' but you know somewhere in there is a trump hotel and golf course on the beach smile

Byker28i

20,361 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June
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trump wanted Pirro on his team, because she said nice things about him on Fox, wanted to give her a position under Jeff Sessions, which she was pushing to get, but Sessions blocked the appointment, after which Pirro attacked Sessions on her show for recusing himself from the Russia investigation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/polit...

Byker28i

20,361 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Gameface said:
Signed Iranian sanctions.
Mitch McConnell yesterday shut down the possibility of a vote on an amendment that would require congressional approval for the use of military funds in Iran. Still doing the same blocking they did under Obama. Nothing will get done in this administration.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/24/iran-deb...

Byker28i

20,361 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June
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The White House will block counselor Kellyanne Conway from testifying before a House panel about allegations by a government watchdog that she violated the Hatch Act, increasing the likelihood of another subpoena battle between the two branches of government.

White House lawyers on Monday rejected the House Oversight Committee’s request for Conway to appear at a hearing Wednesday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kellyanne-...


Conway had already refused to attend
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/24/kellyann...

Byker28i

20,361 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June
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There's still people tryign to cover up stories about trump

The New York Post's former top editor, a supporter of President Trump and an old lieutenant of Rupert Murdoch who returned to the conservative tabloid as an adviser in early 2019, ordered the removal of a story about writer Jean Carroll's sexual assault allegations against President Trump, two people familiar with the matter told CNN Business.

The Post's story about Carroll's sexual assault allegations was mysteriously scrubbed from the tabloid's website on Friday afternoon. The link to the story, which had been written by reporter Joe Tacopino, directed readers to a dead or 404 page.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/24/media/new-york-...


HOW DID THE NEW YORK TIMES’S FIRST STORY about E. Jean Carroll’s sexual-assault allegations against Donald Trump end up in the Books section and not on the front page?
https://www.cjr.org/public_editor/e-jean-carroll-t...

NY Times editor - “we were overly cautious” in our handling of a prominent writer’s allegations against the president.
Basically if we didn't break the story of Trump being accused of rape, we bury it? Bad decision made worse by what seems like professional jealousy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/24/reader-center/e...



Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 25th June 06:29

Byker28i

20,361 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June
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More on the border detention centers
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/24/opinions/childr...

remember that most of the people separated from their children presented themselves legally at the border asking for asylum.

The situation we found is unacceptable. US Border Patrol is holding many children, including some who are much too young to take care of themselves, in jail-like border facilities for weeks at a time without contact with family members, regular access to showers, clean clothes, toothbrushes, or proper beds. Many are sick. Many, including children as young as 2 or 3, have been separated from adult caretakers without any provisions for their care besides the unrelated older children also being held in detention.


A second-grader we interviewed entered the room silently but burst into tears when we asked who she traveled with to the US. "My aunt," she said, with a keening cry. A bracelet on her wrist had the words "US parent" and a phone number written in permanent marker. We called the number on the spot and found out that no one had informed her desperate parents where she was being held. Some of the most emotional moments of our visit came witnessing children speak for the first time with their parents on an attorney's phone.

Byker28i

20,361 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Ructions said:
Trump says he's sanctioning the Ayatollah Khomeini, who has been dead since 1989.
Ayatollah Khomeini on his way to deliver a statement on his recent sanctions designation

andy_s

15,125 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th June
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It seems that the [some?] detention camps are being cleared and alternatives being used:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48755149

AOC made quite divisive comments comparing the situation to 'concentration camps', which, as you can imagine, didn't go down too well.

On the E. Jean Carroll affair, I saw a clip of her being interviewed on CNN and - no judgement on her allegation - she certainly didn't appear to be the full shilling.

Kushners plan fantasy roll-out conference has been boycotted by the Palestinians who haven't invited the Israelis. "dismissed as ‘a fantasy that is completely divorced from reality’".

desolate

19,292 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Did he actually say "she's not my type" about the woman accessing him of attacking her?


Slaav

3,493 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th June
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desolate said:
Did he actually say "she's not my type" about the woman accessing him of attacking her?
That wouldn't surprise me to be honest.... the ego and arrogance of the prick is raising the bar beyond any level we could ever have spoofed!

You really could not make an American 'The thick of it' as satire now in the US and the admin of Trump is impossible IMO.

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midenginedcoupe

4,502 posts

79 months

Tuesday 25th June
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andy_s said:
It seems that the [some?] detention camps are being cleared and alternatives being used:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48755149

AOC made quite divisive comments comparing the situation to 'concentration camps', which, as you can imagine, didn't go down too well.

On the E. Jean Carroll affair, I saw a clip of her being interviewed on CNN and - no judgement on her allegation - she certainly didn't appear to be the full shilling.

Kushners plan fantasy roll-out conference has been boycotted by the Palestinians who haven't invited the Israelis. "dismissed as ‘a fantasy that is completely divorced from reality’".
It's not the label that's divisive. They're called concentration camps because that's exactly what they are. That's what they're called.

People getting their knickers in a twist about them being accurately named should perhaps look to getting upset about having concentration camps on US soil instead.

andy_s

15,125 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th June
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midenginedcoupe said:
It's not the label that's divisive. They're called concentration camps because that's exactly what they are. That's what they're called.

People getting their knickers in a twist about them being accurately named should perhaps look to getting upset about having concentration camps on US soil instead.
It was divisive amongst the more Jewish persuasion, no one was getting thrown into gas chambers or worked to death so it was felt it was inappropriate to use the term as it dilutes its meaning.