45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)
Discussion
walm said:
NRS said:
Will Trump help? Probably not, but it’s a different message.
Yeah - fk the guy trying to bring in healthcare for the uninsured, let's vote for the billionaire who refuses to show us his taxes.That'll "own the libs".
Perhaps I bought your argument in November 2016 when the "anti-establishment" vote had some sort of rationale.
But to remain a Trump supporter, while being on minimum wage and seeing:
- Tax breaks for the rich.
- Massive deficit escalation.
- Pay for play.
- Disastrous trade war making things more expensive for you (inflation is a hugely regressive tax).
- Corruption, corruption everywhere.
- Breakdown in basic democracy with precisely zero oversight.
Then either you are voting against your self-interest because you are a stubborn moron who can't accept you made a mistake...
OR you are one or more of all the other disgusting things Trump has proved himself to be:
- Racist.
- Misogynist.
- Liar.
- Narcissist.
- Nepotist.
- Swamp supporter.
- Corrupt.
- Selfish orange .
Ructions said:
He was clearly speaking 'kiddingly' in 2018...Byker28i said:
Seventy said:
It's ok, he tweeted kiddinglyDonald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
(Kiddingly) We’re building a Wall in Colorado”(then stated, “we’re not building a Wall in Kansas but they get the benefit of the Wall we’re building on the Border”) refered to people in the very packed auditorium, from Colorado & Kansas, getting the benefit of the Border Wall!
9:20 PM - 23 Oct 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187222...
Byker28i said:
It's ok, he tweeted kiddingly
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
(Kiddingly) We’re building a Wall in Colorado”(then stated, “we’re not building a Wall in Kansas but they get the benefit of the Wall we’re building on the Border”) refered to people in the very packed auditorium, from Colorado & Kansas, getting the benefit of the Border Wall!
9:20 PM - 23 Oct 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187222...
It's incredible isn't it, it literally is mentally impossible for him to ever just admit to making a mistake, irrespective of how small and trivial that mistake might be. It's why he's so terrible as a person and a president.......Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
(Kiddingly) We’re building a Wall in Colorado”(then stated, “we’re not building a Wall in Kansas but they get the benefit of the Wall we’re building on the Border”) refered to people in the very packed auditorium, from Colorado & Kansas, getting the benefit of the Border Wall!
9:20 PM - 23 Oct 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187222...
Max_Torque said:
It's incredible isn't it, it literally is mentally impossible for him to ever just admit to making a mistake, irrespective of how small and trivial that mistake might be. It's why he's so terrible as a person and a president.......
Another clear giveaway he is a sociopath.Swamp news
Even the trump administration admit they've broken the ethics pledge, but hidden away the report
A governmentwide review has acknowledged for the first time that at least several Trump political appointees violated the administration’s ethics pledge, which was put in place to try to “drain the swamp” by imposing lobbying restrictions and penalties.
The details are tucked away in the Office of Government Ethics’ latest annual report, which attracted little notice when it was released this summer.
While President Donald Trump’s ethics pledge was weaker than previous rules, the government ethics office still found violations in 2018 at three federal agencies: the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of the Interior and the National Labor Relations Board.
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-trump-admin...
“The White House Counsel’s office has taken the lead in making excuses for ethics violations,” said Kathleen Clark, a professor specializing in legal ethics at the Washington University in St. Louis School of Law. “There’s examples of the White House refusing to impose any sanction for officials found to have committed violations. They’re setting quite the example.”
Even the trump administration admit they've broken the ethics pledge, but hidden away the report
A governmentwide review has acknowledged for the first time that at least several Trump political appointees violated the administration’s ethics pledge, which was put in place to try to “drain the swamp” by imposing lobbying restrictions and penalties.
The details are tucked away in the Office of Government Ethics’ latest annual report, which attracted little notice when it was released this summer.
While President Donald Trump’s ethics pledge was weaker than previous rules, the government ethics office still found violations in 2018 at three federal agencies: the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of the Interior and the National Labor Relations Board.
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-trump-admin...
“The White House Counsel’s office has taken the lead in making excuses for ethics violations,” said Kathleen Clark, a professor specializing in legal ethics at the Washington University in St. Louis School of Law. “There’s examples of the White House refusing to impose any sanction for officials found to have committed violations. They’re setting quite the example.”
Trumps lost in court again
In what could prove a highly consequential ruling, a federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to start turning over documents regarding potentially improper White House influence on diplomacy in Ukraine.
The decision, part of a lawsuit filed under the Freedom of Information Act, represents the first judicial order mandating that the Trump administration comply with a request for communications between diplomats, White House officials and outside power brokers like Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was included in the original request, as were a number of his top deputies, indicating a widespread belief among Trump’s detractors that American foreign policy has been hijacked by political operatives — and political considerations.
The documents were being requested by American Oversight, a progressive watchdog group in Washington, D.C. The group filed a Freedom of Information Act request when it noticed news reports that the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, had been recalled. American Oversight filed a lawsuit in October, after the State Department failed to turn over the documents.
The Trump administration will now have 30 days to start turning over records and documents relating to the Ukraine affair, and though it could find legal pretext for refusing to do so, Wednesday’s ruling did appear to be a vindication of months-long efforts for American Oversight.
https://news.yahoo.com/state-department-ordered-to...
In what could prove a highly consequential ruling, a federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to start turning over documents regarding potentially improper White House influence on diplomacy in Ukraine.
The decision, part of a lawsuit filed under the Freedom of Information Act, represents the first judicial order mandating that the Trump administration comply with a request for communications between diplomats, White House officials and outside power brokers like Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was included in the original request, as were a number of his top deputies, indicating a widespread belief among Trump’s detractors that American foreign policy has been hijacked by political operatives — and political considerations.
The documents were being requested by American Oversight, a progressive watchdog group in Washington, D.C. The group filed a Freedom of Information Act request when it noticed news reports that the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, had been recalled. American Oversight filed a lawsuit in October, after the State Department failed to turn over the documents.
The Trump administration will now have 30 days to start turning over records and documents relating to the Ukraine affair, and though it could find legal pretext for refusing to do so, Wednesday’s ruling did appear to be a vindication of months-long efforts for American Oversight.
https://news.yahoo.com/state-department-ordered-to...
Seventy said:
Massive pisstaking going on here. Everyone is hoping that Boulder gets put on the other side.walm said:
NRS said:
Will Trump help? Probably not, but it’s a different message.
Yeah - fk the guy trying to bring in healthcare for the uninsured, let's vote for the billionaire who refuses to show us his taxes.That'll "own the libs".
Perhaps I bought your argument in November 2016 when the "anti-establishment" vote had some sort of rationale.
But to remain a Trump supporter, while being on minimum wage and seeing:
- Tax breaks for the rich.
- Massive deficit escalation.
- Pay for play.
- Disastrous trade war making things more expensive for you (inflation is a hugely regressive tax).
- Corruption, corruption everywhere.
- Breakdown in basic democracy with precisely zero oversight.
Then either you are voting against your self-interest because you are a stubborn moron who can't accept you made a mistake...
OR you are one or more of all the other disgusting things Trump has proved himself to be:
- Racist.
- Misogynist.
- Liar.
- Narcissist.
- Nepotist.
- Swamp supporter.
- Corrupt.
- Selfish orange .
Davos123 said:
fail to see how that tweet is an example of him shooting himself in his foot. It's perfectly in keeping with the angry, divisive "us and them" mentality that has worked so successfully for him to date.
You've managed to point out exactly how he's shooting himself in the foot.By trying to polarised the country, he's forcing the swing voters to vote against him. His actual voter base, his trur believers are miniscule in number and he's alienating the people who don't want to, but are willing to vote against him.
It's no longer a matter of if he can get a second term, but which Democrat is going to replace and jail him. I mean he nearly lost Texas in the midterms, Texas the poster child of red states.
Davos123 said:
fail to see how that tweet is an example of him shooting himself in his foot. It's perfectly in keeping with the angry, divisive "us and them" mentality that has worked so successfully for him to date.
Pandering to "da base" is an example of the law of diminishing returns. Yes - keep them happy by all means- but aggravate everybody else - including many who voted for you last time. Trump keeps boasting that he is not a politician. Well, his idiotic approach to self promotion demonstrates that every day.Eric Mc said:
Pandering to "da base" is an example of the law of diminishing returns. Yes - keep them happy by all means- but aggravate everybody else - including many who voted for you last time. Trump keeps boasting that he is not a politician. Well, his idiotic approach to self promotion demonstrates that every day.
Well, right now his only political objective is to achieve a second-term. I don't really see how continuing with the tactics that worked so well for him before is really an example of the law of diminishing returns. It's going to be a tough job for him to do regardless of what he does, but his first objective has to be to run as the Republican candidate unopposed, or to beat anyone who runs against him. Attacking those in the party who don't back him is how he plans to achieve that - attacking the party worked pretty well for him last time...Criticisms of Trump as a human, as a policy-maker etc are fair enough, but this dumb idea that everything he does is idiotic and that he has achieved nothing is reductive and stupid. He has defied the odds to become President, he has employed effective tactics to do so, along with other factors beyond his control. This tweet is just an example of those. Is it blunt, repugnant and the work of an egomaniac who shouldn't be in office? Yes. Is it uncalculated, dumb and without any efficacy? No.
In 2016 he was an unknown. People were prepared to give him a chance - even people who had doubts about his suitability for office.
Now he is very much "known". His UNSUITABILITY for office is now pretty much obvious to even the most mentally challenged individual.
Just because something worked once does not mean it will work again. After all, once upon a time being an expert in using a quill was a much sought after attribute. Nowadays, not so much.
Now he is very much "known". His UNSUITABILITY for office is now pretty much obvious to even the most mentally challenged individual.
Just because something worked once does not mean it will work again. After all, once upon a time being an expert in using a quill was a much sought after attribute. Nowadays, not so much.
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