45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)

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Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Byker28i said:
Interesting info on Jim Jordon. Only in cogress because they gerrymandered the district, (OH-4), the infamous "duck district." It's drawn to gobble up Republican votes by zagging around cities.



or instead of a duck could be a pram with a laser cannon mounted on it
If it's a pram, it looks like the wheels came off - which may be apt.

RedWhiteMonkey

6,850 posts

182 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Byker28i said:
Sondland is busy implicating everyone to save his skin

He just said "So we followed the Presidents orders"
I believe that is known as the Nuremberg defense.

_dobbo_

14,377 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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rednotdead said:
Christ - this testimony is nuclear. Where do the GOP go from here, there is no defence.
Talking heads on Twitter are saying the only remaining conceivable defense is "the law doesn't apply to the President"

_dobbo_

14,377 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Sondland claims he knew Trump and Giuliani were demanding investigations and he also knew they were withholding aid but that he didn't know they were connected.... *cough* bullst

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Byker28i said:
Sondland is busy implicating everyone to save his skin

He just said "So we followed the Presidents orders"
I'm not bothered about him. It's Trump and Giuliani who need to fall.

Byker28i

59,788 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Remember of Sondland that trump praised him as a "really good man" and "great American." He also said

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify, but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public....

....to see. Importantly, Ambassador Sondland’s tweet, which few report, stated, “I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind.” That says it ALL!

6:23 AM - 8 Oct 2019

Sondland today:
"Everyone's in the loop"
"It was no secret"
"They knew what we were doing and why"
"There was no secret regarding ... the discussion of the investigations."
“Was there a ‘quid pro quo? The answer is yes.”
"So we followed the Presidents orders"


I love his claim that it's not his fault he forgot, it was because his memory “has not been perfect,” and it's the fault of the State Department who have withheld his phone records and emails. He said the process would have been "more transparent" if the State Department would have provided the documents.

So thats throwing them under the bus for obstruction now...

Challo

10,129 posts

155 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Anyone watch Nunes opening statement?

Byker28i

59,788 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Congressman Jim Himes

Jim Himes
@jahimes

Ambassador Sondland, a man who gave $1 million to @realDonaldTrump political operation just demolished every defense the @gop has offered for the President’s behavior, flimsy as they were.

7:16 AM - 20 Nov 2019

_dobbo_

14,377 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Nunes clamed Sondland was going to get smeared. Given Sondland's opening statement I think he might be right, but not about who was going to be doing the smearing....

Challo

10,129 posts

155 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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_dobbo_ said:
Nunes clamed Sondland was going to get smeared. Given Sondland's opening statement I think he might be right, but not about who was going to be doing the smearing....
So Sondland outlined it was a Quid Pro Quo and everyone new, and Nunes just sat there and claimed it was all a hoax?

Who in the republicans thoughts this bright spark should be the minority ranking member? Thick as pig st springs to mind.

Byker28i

59,788 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Challo said:
_dobbo_ said:
Nunes clamed Sondland was going to get smeared. Given Sondland's opening statement I think he might be right, but not about who was going to be doing the smearing....
So Sondland outlined it was a Quid Pro Quo and everyone new, and Nunes just sat there and claimed it was all a hoax?

Who in the republicans thoughts this bright spark should be the minority ranking member? Thick as pig st springs to mind.
Sondlands already walked back his first testimony. Nunes is playing up to trump, who is still insisting there was no bribery, no quid pro quo, when every witness has said there was.

_dobbo_

14,377 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Challo said:
So Sondland outlined it was a Quid Pro Quo and everyone new, and Nunes just sat there and claimed it was all a hoax?

Who in the republicans thoughts this bright spark should be the minority ranking member? Thick as pig st springs to mind.
Nunes gave his opening statement before Sondland spoke. I think Nunes must not have had access to Sondland's opening statement.


Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Does Sondland have a touch of Parkinson's or is my monitor stand on the wobble?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Sondland looking to sacrifice Giuliani to save Trump?


Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Nunes' rambling MO appears to be to make a torrent of statements irrespective of whom he is talking to. I feel like I could be sitting there in Sondland's seat and 'answering' just as effectively. Just keep saying 'I was not aware'.

_dobbo_

14,377 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Nunes repeating conspiracy theories about Ukraine. Steele Dossier, black ledger, etc.

So the defense from Nunes seems to be, Trump was right to want to investigate Ukraine and it wasn't for personal gain. But it doesn't matter because the only quid pro quo was for a statement, which is nothing.

Nunes mentions Burisma, Sondland repeats it back to him and Nunes says "I'm glad you mentioned Burisma". He's a bellend.

Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Castor isn't much better.

Byker28i

59,788 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Fox News

"It doesn't look good for the president, substantively."

Ken Starr: "There will be articles of impeachment, I think we've known that ... It's over ... This is his position, we now know that the president, in fact, committed the crime of bribery ... Articles of impeachment are being drawn up if they haven't already been drawn up."

Byker28i

59,788 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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And here it comes..
@maggieNYT

President Trump - wait for it - hardly knows the guy (Sondland): “I don’t know him very well. I have not spoken to him much. This is not a man I know well. He seems like a nice guy though.”

Challo

10,129 posts

155 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Byker28i said:
And here it comes..
@maggieNYT

President Trump - wait for it - hardly knows the guy (Sondland): “I don’t know him very well. I have not spoken to him much. This is not a man I know well. He seems like a nice guy though.”
Standard approach. Never knew the guy, accept he gave $1m to Trump and flew on Air Force 1.
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