45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 7)
Discussion
Seventy said:
Brooking10 said:
Astonishing performance at Davos.
He is, without doubt, the worst orator I have ever heard on a world stage.Surely they could get some decent speech writers to make it more credible? Or would he just get confused with the big words?
AshVX220 said:
It's actually amazing when you think about it. Surely these people have speech writers, so how come his are so poor compared to previous presidents? Do they write it in that way, because that's how he naturally speaks or tweets (God I hate twitter, to many people have tweeted absolute crap because they don't think before hitting the submit button).
Surely they could get some decent speech writers to make it more credible? Or would he just get confused with the big words?
It's because he surrounds himself with yes men. He believes he's a great orator and businessman simply because he's had people telling him this for years because he's been able to hold significant threats over them. Surely they could get some decent speech writers to make it more credible? Or would he just get confused with the big words?
Now he's having to deal with people he has no power over and is unable to treat them as equals. This creates a cognitive dissonance he is unable to reconcile, so he deludes himself that he is a the great statesman that he pretends to be... And refuses to listen to anyone who tells him otherwise.
It's only a matter of time before he goes completely senile and his backers do a Franco on him (let him believe he's in power but issue their own edicts in his name as Franco's staff did in the last year's of his reign).
AshVX220 said:
It's actually amazing when you think about it. Surely these people have speech writers, so how come his are so poor compared to previous presidents? Do they write it in that way, because that's how he naturally speaks or tweets (God I hate twitter, to many people have tweeted absolute crap because they don't think before hitting the submit button).
Surely they could get some decent speech writers to make it more credible? Or would he just get confused with the big words?
It's because he knows best. I have no doubt he has speeches written for him. I have no doubt he even thinks he's going to stick to them. I also think he probably does start off by sticking to them. Vaguely. But his personality and mental condition are such that he gets easily distracted by himself and his bullsSurely they could get some decent speech writers to make it more credible? Or would he just get confused with the big words?
t and once his brain gets on that train everyone is along for the ride.Wonder how effective his lying is going to be to get him re-elected: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51192999
La Liga said:
Wonder how effective his lying is going to be to get him re-elected: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51192999
I think there are a substantial amount of people who actually like to be lied to, and trump has really exploited this. As a sociopath, he lives in a world effectively of his own construction, and he has been able to drag a significant percentage of the electorate along with him.I think his biggest legacy, irrespective of whether or not he is elected again, will be the heading towards the post-truth world he has done so much to create. It will be a mighty challenge to get things on a more even keel once he is out of the picture.
paulguitar said:
I think there are a substantial amount of people who actually like to be lied to, and trump has really exploited this. As a sociopath, he lives in a world effectively of his own construction, and he has been able to drag a significant percentage of the electorate along with him.
I think his biggest legacy, irrespective of whether or not he is elected again, will be the heading towards the post-truth world he has done so much to create. It will be a mighty challenge to get things on a more even keel once he is out of the picture.
It would be extraordinarily childish and petty, but very funny and in keeping with the post truth approach Trump loves if his successor just made no reference to Trump, never mentioned his name, and if asked pretended that Obama had been the previous President. Just whitewash the Trump years out of existence. I think his biggest legacy, irrespective of whether or not he is elected again, will be the heading towards the post-truth world he has done so much to create. It will be a mighty challenge to get things on a more even keel once he is out of the picture.
Seventy said:
Brooking10 said:
Astonishing performance at Davos.
He is, without doubt, the worst orator I have ever heard on a world stage.Rumours are he loves adderel and could explain the sniffing. I wonder if he has had teeth done, as occasional he makes strange movements with his mouth, and slurs words like he is struggling to keep his teeth in his mouth.
GOP senators driven by McConnell have spent the first day of the impeachment trial blocking any attempt by the House to call additonal witnesses, voting down all amendments to McConnells rules strictly restricting any new evidence to protect trump.
The Senate has rejected the Schumer amendment to subpoena the White House for Ukraine documents in Trump's impeachment trial 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena documents from the State Department 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena documents from the Office of Budget and Management related to the charges against the president 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena Defense Department documents and records related to Trump's efforts to pressure Ukraine 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena testimony from Robert Blair and Michael Duffey, two White House Office of Management and Budget officials with direct knowledge of the Ukraine aid freeze, 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer proposed amendment, which had to do with rules on how evidence is handled during the trial. The amendment died on a party line 53-47 vote.
The Senate has rejected the Schumer amendment to subpoena the White House for Ukraine documents in Trump's impeachment trial 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena documents from the State Department 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena documents from the Office of Budget and Management related to the charges against the president 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena Defense Department documents and records related to Trump's efforts to pressure Ukraine 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer amendment to subpoena testimony from Robert Blair and Michael Duffey, two White House Office of Management and Budget officials with direct knowledge of the Ukraine aid freeze, 53-47.
They voted to reject the Schumer proposed amendment, which had to do with rules on how evidence is handled during the trial. The amendment died on a party line 53-47 vote.
A new batch of documents from the Records from the Office of Management and Budget were released last night, obtained in response to American Oversight’s request for directives and communications that may relate to any effort to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate one of President Trump’s political opponents as part of an effort to give the president an electoral advantage.
https://www.americanoversight.org/document/omb-rec...
They show why Schumer has repeated tried to call additional witnesses from the White House and why they are blocked by team trump
https://www.americanoversight.org/document/omb-rec...
They show why Schumer has repeated tried to call additional witnesses from the White House and why they are blocked by team trump
Saudi's crown prince and Kushner/trumps best mate is implicated in a hack of Jeff Bezos phone, who trump is very critical of.
A United Nations investigation to be released Wednesday will report that Amazon founder Jeff Bezos’s cellphone was hacked in 2018 after he got a WhatsApp message that came from an account purportedly belonging to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, according to a person with direct knowledge of the report.
The report is expected to detail a forensic investigation into long-standing allegations by Bezos, the world’s richest man, that the Saudi regime launched a cyberattack on him as part of a complex series of conflicts among Bezos, the Saudis, President Trump and the National Enquirer tabloid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-crow...
A U.N. official, special rapporteur David Kaye, says in a new documentary film that Bezos’s phone was infected with malware that was delivered via a message from Mohammed. Soon after the message was sent, investigators concluded, a massive amount of data was extracted from Bezos’s phone.
A United Nations investigation to be released Wednesday will report that Amazon founder Jeff Bezos’s cellphone was hacked in 2018 after he got a WhatsApp message that came from an account purportedly belonging to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, according to a person with direct knowledge of the report.
The report is expected to detail a forensic investigation into long-standing allegations by Bezos, the world’s richest man, that the Saudi regime launched a cyberattack on him as part of a complex series of conflicts among Bezos, the Saudis, President Trump and the National Enquirer tabloid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-crow...
A U.N. official, special rapporteur David Kaye, says in a new documentary film that Bezos’s phone was infected with malware that was delivered via a message from Mohammed. Soon after the message was sent, investigators concluded, a massive amount of data was extracted from Bezos’s phone.
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 22 January 06:24
Senators are allowed to speak with the media during breaks in the trial. But Justin Goodman, Communications Director for the Senate Democrats, appeared to catch Republican Senator Marsha Blackburn giving an interview on Fox News when she was supposed to be in the Senate chamber for the trial.
MSNBC’s Nick Ramsey also confirmed that Blackburn was indeed on Fox News while trial proceedings were in sessions.
https://twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/12198273364...
Senators aren’t even allowed to have their phones with them during the trial, cannot speak to the media whilst the trial is in session, which it was.
So GOP are desperate to promote their version on Fox, breaking senate rules whilst doing it...
MSNBC’s Nick Ramsey also confirmed that Blackburn was indeed on Fox News while trial proceedings were in sessions.
https://twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/12198273364...
Senators aren’t even allowed to have their phones with them during the trial, cannot speak to the media whilst the trial is in session, which it was.
So GOP are desperate to promote their version on Fox, breaking senate rules whilst doing it...
I think the problem is that there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to Senate Impeachment Hearings - only conventions. How the hearings are conducted is down to the leader of the Senate - which is of course, Mitch McConnell.
It was always going to be like this and it does beg the question as to why the Democrats bothered to go down this path.
It was always going to be like this and it does beg the question as to why the Democrats bothered to go down this path.
Today's news seems to imply the Republicans (trump) have blocked any attempt for the Democrats to call witnesses.
Were the witnesses they are wanting to call named in earlier proceedings before it went to this house?
If the Republicans didnt name their witnesses in the earlier stage of the impeachment then I can understand the Republicans blocking them. This based on if you have a case against someone youd expect your witnesses to be reliable.
I've looked at a few articles but cant seem to see the answer.
Were the witnesses they are wanting to call named in earlier proceedings before it went to this house?
If the Republicans didnt name their witnesses in the earlier stage of the impeachment then I can understand the Republicans blocking them. This based on if you have a case against someone youd expect your witnesses to be reliable.
I've looked at a few articles but cant seem to see the answer.
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff