Harry and Meghan

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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E30M3ZONE said:
Just now they kinda look (to some extent) Hollywood but soon Harry's going to look like Prince Edward! Don't want to get personal here but it's fact. I don't think he'll suit the shaved head look, some people do, most don't. Losing HRH and his hair could take him off any 'A' list even if they manage to be on it in the first place. It's a fickle world they are entering.
He'll have access to the best treatment. He'll be fine.

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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JagLover said:
El stovey said:
I naively thought that after brexit or the election they might cheer up, but apparently reactionaries will always be reactionaries looking for something new to be reactionary about.

The Harry and Meg story is prime ham and pineapple for them though, young (foreign looking) woman, benefits, celebrities, wokeness, anti royal, environmental causes, all funded by them the taxpayer! hehe
Rod Liddle put it best.
Liddle said:
If you were pro-Leave, you are likely to be anti-Meghan and Harry, for reasons which have something to do with those outdated concepts of discipline, reserve, dignity, tradition, continuity and duty.
Many of the remainers only care about if one of them can play a card, or if they spout some fashionable bks (which is contradicted by their own private actions). As long as they do that they can parasite off the public as much as they want.
Ha ha - quoting racist pregnant girlfriend puncher Rod Liddle.

Of course he's going to be peddling excuses as to why it isn't racism! And dress it up all respectable.

Why does he get a free pass by some? scratchchin

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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JagLover said:
Many of the remainers only care about if one of them can play a card, or if they spout some fashionable bks (which is contradicted by their own private actions). As long as they do that they can parasite off the public as much as they want.
You are illustrating that the leave/remain issue had very little to do with the EU and more.

Rod Liddle, ugh.

I have to say that the fairly liberal, progressive, non reactionary, non extreme, non Royalist types that I generally associate with are really not arsed about Harry or Meghan one way or the other.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
Ha ha - quoting racist pregnant girlfriend puncher Rod Liddle.

Of course he's going to be peddling excuses as to why it isn't racism! And dress it up all respectable.

Why does he get a free pass by some? scratchchin
Because they are members of the choir that he preaches to, of course.

The people who appear to be so worked up about Harry and Meghan appear to be comfortable with the Royals and monarchy in general. There appears to some sort of odd fixation on the Queen as some sort of crime family matriarch.

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 19th January 11:45

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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DeepEnd said:
You cannot help but notice something of a correlation between Climate apologists/Greta haters, Markle haters, EU haters, Owen Jones haters etc.
That's one of the things that fascinates me about many of these issues.

You can make a guess and you won't be right all the time but I suspect you'd be right more often than you'd be wrong.

You forgot the BBC by the way.

souper

2,433 posts

211 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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I wonder in 6 months’ time will we see Harry whizzing down Hollywood Boulevard in a red convertible Ferrari pulling up at a jaunty angle to a traffic stop with a gawdy Hawaiian shirt buttoned down to his navel with a 3" gold Medallion glistening off his golden ginger chest. Same when he hits Miami ala Don Johnston stylee...

JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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MC Bodge said:
The people who appear to be so worked up about Harry and Meghan appear to be comfortable with the Royals and monarchy in general. There appears to some sort of odd fixation on the Queen as some sort of crime family matriarch.
Crime family matriarch hehe

The queen has long enjoyed approval ratings most politicians can only dream of and has the support of two thirds to three quarters of the British public depending on the survey. Who appreciate her life of service and public duty rather than the empty virtue signalling of the woke crowd.

One of the few to ever rival her popularity was Diana and the legacy of that time is the sizeable numbers who want the crown to pass straight to William, who is Diana's son as well as being the Queen's grandson.

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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bhstewie said:
That's one of the things that fascinates me about many of these issues.

You can make a guess and you won't be right all the time but I suspect you'd be right more often than you'd be wrong.

You forgot the BBC by the way.
Indeed, yes BBC, Trump, etc.

What is the link? Generally being unhappy with your lot? Given the tone of many posts that seems possible.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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bhstewie said:
DeepEnd said:
You cannot help but notice something of a correlation between Climate apologists/Greta haters, Markle haters, EU haters, Owen Jones haters etc.
That's one of the things that fascinates me about many of these issues.

You can make a guess and you won't be right all the time but I suspect you'd be right more often than you'd be wrong.

You forgot the BBC by the way.
Yes.

There seems to be a thread of general anger amongst some people.

I can only assume that it happens to some at a certain point in life when changes in the world around begin to confuse and frustrate them. They wish to turn back the clock to a time that may not have existed, but they realise that they are not in any position to resist the changes.


MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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JagLover said:
Crime family matriarch hehe

The queen has long enjoyed approval ratings most politicians can only dream of and has the support of two thirds to three quarters of the British public depending on the survey. Who appreciate her life of service and public duty rather than the empty virtue signalling of the woke crowd.

One of the few to ever rival her popularity was Diana and the legacy of that time is the sizeable numbers who want the crown to pass straight to William, who is Diana's son as well as being the Queen's grandson.
What mawkish sentimentality.

Why is it that only people of a particularly non-progressive viewpoint ever use the word "Woke"?

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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psi310398 said:
In what way exactly is RL part of the problem?

He earns his living, rather than sponging off us, he pays his taxes and is perfectly entitled to his opinions.
ROD LIDDLE, former editor of Radio 4’s Today programme, was arrested on election night after allegedly punching his pregnant girlfriend.

Not sure he's someone I'd listen to for opinions on how to a live a life based on "concepts of discipline, reserve, dignity, tradition, continuity and duty".

Bit judgmental of me I know.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Liddle, yes awful piece of work.

Netflix said today they’d be delighted to work with Megry today, in a similar way they did with the ex First Lady.

Hello money smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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MC Bodge said:
bhstewie said:
DeepEnd said:
You cannot help but notice something of a correlation between Climate apologists/Greta haters, Markle haters, EU haters, Owen Jones haters etc.
That's one of the things that fascinates me about many of these issues.

You can make a guess and you won't be right all the time but I suspect you'd be right more often than you'd be wrong.

You forgot the BBC by the way.
Yes.

There seems to be a thread of general anger amongst some people.

I can only assume that it happens to some at a certain point in life when changes in the world around begin to confuse and frustrate them. They wish to turn back the clock to a time that may not have existed, but they realise that they are not in any position to resist the changes.
I’ve heard this talked about a few times on the radio and elsewhere recently. The correlation between a certain type of person and their dislike of The EU/Meghan/Immigration/Greta Thunberg/the BBC/Attempts to curb emissions/The Guardian etc

There were two theories given for their outlook on life:

One was as you say, that the world is rapidly changing around them and instead of moving with the times, adapting, or taking it in their stride, they are lashing out and resisting.

Their own life hasn’t turned out as magical and prosperous as they hoped, so they look to blame others for it. Blame the EU, blame Immigrants, blame minorities, etc and then also lash out at those that seem to be doing well or enjoying a nice lifestyle.

It’s all quite interesting.

JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
I’ve heard this talked about a few times on the radio and elsewhere recently. The correlation between a certain type of person and their dislike of The EU/Meghan/Immigration/Greta Thunberg/the BBC/Attempts to curb emissions/The Guardian etc

There were two theories given for their outlook on life:

One was as you say, that the world is rapidly changing around them and instead of moving with the times, adapting, or taking it in their stride, they are lashing out and resisting.

Their own life hasn’t turned out as magical and prosperous as they hoped, so they look to blame others for it. Blame the EU, blame Immigrants, blame minorities, etc and then also lash out at those that seem to be doing well or enjoying a nice lifestyle.

It’s all quite interesting.
Or perhaps reacting against a bunch of self satisfied Tw*ts who regard a truanting schoolgirl as a prophet and that Meghan is amazing just for what she is rather than anything she actually does. Let alone her having to do anything so tiresome as doing any royal duties to justify her support from the taxpayer.

Still at least you will still have all your heroes on Twitter that you can pretend represent the real world. Lilly Allen, Owen Jones, et al.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
I’ve heard this talked about a few times on the radio and elsewhere recently. The correlation between a certain type of person and their dislike of The EU/Meghan/Immigration/Greta Thunberg/the BBC/Attempts to curb emissions/The Guardian etc

There were two theories given for their outlook on life:

One was as you say, that the world is rapidly changing around them and instead of moving with the times, adapting, or taking it in their stride, they are lashing out and resisting.

Their own life hasn’t turned out as magical and prosperous as they hoped, so they look to blame others for it. Blame the EU, blame Immigrants, blame minorities, etc and then also lash out at those that seem to be doing well or enjoying a nice lifestyle.

It’s all quite interesting.
Those are both true.

When you get to a certain age you realise that the world is changing and you’re not young anymore and some avenues are closed to you and you take stock of your lot a bit. It’s a bit like New Years for some.

You can either have a ‘mid life crisis’ or more accurately a renaissance where you try new stuff and rediscover what makes you happy and find new things to enjoy and become comfortable in your own skin OR become dominated by negative thought patterns and behaviour and as a result really miserable about it and blame everyone else for your dissatisfaction.

The older PHs reactionaries are obviously in the second group. Good news is they can possibly become nicer people if they take up some hobbies and do some exercise and change their outlook on the world and hopefully stop being so bloody miserable.

hutchst

3,701 posts

96 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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MC Bodge said:
What mawkish sentimentality.

Why is it that only people of a particularly non-progressive viewpoint ever use the word "Woke"?
Probably in the same way that only people of a particularly non-inclusive viewpoint ever use the word "Boomer".

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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JagLover said:
Still at least you will still have all your heroes on Twitter that you can pretend represent the real world. Lilly Allen, Owen Jones, et al.
I think you may be falling into that trap of thinking that people agree with someone because they disagree with people abusing them.

Lily Allen put out a social media post on the Lawrence Fox racism stuff moaning about "Luvvies forcing their opinions on everyone".

Nobody forces anyone to read Lily Allen's social media and I guess the Daily Mail chose to run the story about it but her posting that is beyond ironic.

Owen Jones says some stuff that I agree with but also talks a lot of absolute rubbish.

It doesn't mean people should be finding excuses for him being beaten up because of his politics and his sexuality.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Think Queen has also had enough and wants out for all of them.laugh Instead of keeping low key, she has brought Andrew

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7904475/P...

chow pan toon

12,387 posts

237 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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JagLover said:
Still at least you will still have all your heroes on Twitter that you can pretend represent the real world. Lilly Allen, Owen Jones, et al.
Do you honestly think this or are you ironically trying to squeeze as many NP&E shibboleths as you can into one sentence?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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bhstewie said:
JagLover said:
Still at least you will still have all your heroes on Twitter that you can pretend represent the real world. Lilly Allen, Owen Jones, et al.
I think you may be falling into that trap of thinking that people agree with someone because they disagree with people abusing them.

Lily Allen put out a social media post on the Lawrence Fox racism stuff moaning about "Luvvies forcing their opinions on everyone".

Nobody forces anyone to read Lily Allen's social media and I guess the Daily Mail chose to run the story about it but her posting that is beyond ironic.

Owen Jones says some stuff that I agree with but also talks a lot of absolute rubbish.

It doesn't mean people should be finding excuses for him being beaten up because of his politics and his sexuality.
Exactly.

I don’t get annoyed by Lilly Allen because I don’t read her opinions, either on twitter or wherever she makes them or in the daily mail where they’re repeated as click bait.

Same with Owen Jones, although you do see him now and then being interviewed on the news etc.

I suspect they’re both mouthy plonkers but they don’t annoy me because they’re quite easy to avoid.

Reactionaries hate them because they’re bombarded by them by actively reading their opinions to enforce their dislike of them.

It’s very negative behaviour. Decide you dislike Owen Jones (or whatever) then actively seek out his views to get even more upset and justify your dislike of him in the first place. That’s why the daily mail and that journalist mentioned before, Rod Liddle are popular, because they’re feeding the dislikes of the reactionary readers and making them even more angry and dissatisfied with the (modern) world.