Harry and Meghan
Discussion
popeyewhite said:
Countdown said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Does 'The Firm' have shares in Oprah's production company? They seem to be doing everything possible to drive up interest and viewership - their activity is making it a hotter property every day.
indeed, and so is this thread. if it transpires that H&M negotiated a percentage of gross receipts I fear some Ph'ers will have cardiac arrests.... 
Reciprocating mass said:
Meghan will soon get bored, divorce will happen and Harry will realise what a grabber he hooked up with, and realise his very silly mistake
Yes that's been said a few times on here. i'm amazed on the insightfulness considering there isn't a lot known about her, but one thing is sure she has the potential to make the Royal Family look antiquated and moribund.Countdown said:
if it transpires that H&M negotiated a percentage of gross receipts...
That's my point - I'll be staggered if everybody isn't getting paid. And getting paid to put the boot into your own family, especially when that family's got a big house at the end of the Mall, is unlikely to look pretty. Obviously I know nothing about content of the interview at this stage but I'll be staggered if it doesn't backfire on the Sussex camp. He's got the academic prowess of Rodney Trotter and she may be misjudging "the great British public" (otherwise known as Daily Mail readers) and their rapidly shifting attitudes. The Only Way Is Sussex.
The Spruce Goose said:
Reciprocating mass said:
Meghan will soon get bored, divorce will happen and Harry will realise what a grabber he hooked up with, and realise his very silly mistake
Yes that's been said a few times on here. i'm amazed on the insightfulness considering there isn't a lot known about her, but one thing is sure she has the potential to make the Royal Family look antiquated and moribund.It's not as though she suddenly appeared from nowhere, fully formed as a fledgling princess.
Crikey, before they'd even got together she was "well known" enough for her fellatio skills to have been critiqued via the 'lads' WhatsApp...
rockin said:
Countdown said:
if it transpires that H&M negotiated a percentage of gross receipts...
That's my point - I'll be staggered if everybody isn't getting paid. And getting paid to put the boot into your own family, especially when that family's got a big house at the end of the Mall, is unlikely to look pretty. Obviously I know nothing about content of the interview at this stage but I'll be staggered if it doesn't backfire on the Sussex camp. He's got the academic prowess of Rodney Trotter and she may be misjudging "the great British public" (otherwise known as Daily Mail readers) and their rapidly shifting attitudes. The Only Way Is Sussex.
Harry and Megs won't get paid for the interview, and they won't ask to be paid for the interview. The money for them comes after the interview is a success and their public rating rises.
Harry And Megs do it for free, as CBS are spending the millions on promoting it for them, so they get large audience figures to put their story across.
hyphen said:
rockin said:
Countdown said:
if it transpires that H&M negotiated a percentage of gross receipts...
That's my point - I'll be staggered if everybody isn't getting paid. And getting paid to put the boot into your own family, especially when that family's got a big house at the end of the Mall, is unlikely to look pretty. Obviously I know nothing about content of the interview at this stage but I'll be staggered if it doesn't backfire on the Sussex camp. He's got the academic prowess of Rodney Trotter and she may be misjudging "the great British public" (otherwise known as Daily Mail readers) and their rapidly shifting attitudes. The Only Way Is Sussex.
Harry and Megs won't get paid for the interview, and they won't ask to be paid for the interview. The money for them comes after the interview is a success and their public rating rises.
Harry And Megs do it for free, as CBS are spending the millions on promoting it for them, so they get large audience figures to put their story across.
Potentially a charitable donation to the Trust...
However, on CBS and Oprah - they've gotta be pissed at Harry doing Corden and spoiling the exclusive? After all, Oprah was filmed ages ago, only for Corden to get in a week or two before with the first interview.
Sway said:
The Spruce Goose said:
Reciprocating mass said:
Meghan will soon get bored, divorce will happen and Harry will realise what a grabber he hooked up with, and realise his very silly mistake
Yes that's been said a few times on here. i'm amazed on the insightfulness considering there isn't a lot known about her, but one thing is sure she has the potential to make the Royal Family look antiquated and moribund.It's not as though she suddenly appeared from nowhere, fully formed as a fledgling princess.
Crikey, before they'd even got together she was "well known" enough for her fellatio skills to have been critiqued via the 'lads' WhatsApp...
smn159 said:
Fingers crossed that the whole institution is about to implode spectacularly.
They all sound like rather odious people.
Who the firm, yes. I wish the Royal family would FRO, all this charity work can't hide the fact there wealth was built of slavery, they mix with paedophiles and despots whilst preaching to us.They all sound like rather odious people.
The Spruce Goose said:
smn159 said:
Fingers crossed that the whole institution is about to implode spectacularly.
They all sound like rather odious people.
Who the firm, yes. I wish the Royal family would FRO, all this charity work can't hide the fact there wealth was built of slavery, they mix with paedophiles and despots whilst preaching to us.They all sound like rather odious people.
Ntv said:
I do find all the racism stuff incredibly thin skinned. The overwhelming reaction to Meghan in the UK was goodwill, and anything but racist. Doesn't mean whatever racism there was was defensible, but ffs see the bigger picture ...
The racism stuff is the really damaging part, I think - because it influences our reputation internationally.Lamentably, there will be many with little prior opinion of the UK who will consider us a racist country after Sunday night's viewing.
Meghan and Harry are now in a position where it benefits them to portray 'The Firm'; our whole media - and indeed our society as a whole - as racist since to do so justifies their actions of leaving the 'unsurvivable' situation they found themselves in.
I have no doubt that Meghan has experienced some racist attitudes in the UK as sadly any BAME in a high profile situation will have done. It's completely unacceptable but should not be seen as reflective of the country as a whole - but unfortunately that is the narrative Meghan and Harry have to push in order to justify their need to retreat to California.
Randy Winkman said:
Sway said:
The Spruce Goose said:
Reciprocating mass said:
Meghan will soon get bored, divorce will happen and Harry will realise what a grabber he hooked up with, and realise his very silly mistake
Yes that's been said a few times on here. i'm amazed on the insightfulness considering there isn't a lot known about her, but one thing is sure she has the potential to make the Royal Family look antiquated and moribund.It's not as though she suddenly appeared from nowhere, fully formed as a fledgling princess.
Crikey, before they'd even got together she was "well known" enough for her fellatio skills to have been critiqued via the 'lads' WhatsApp...
It's not as though the narrative has changed though, is it?
Since she originally entered my consciousness, she's been known as being exceptionally difficult to be around and has a well documented history of clinging onto people the "next rung" up for a leg up before dumping them once established.
hyphen said:
Harry And Megs do it for free, as CBS are spending the millions on promoting it for them, so they get large audience figures to put their story across.
The idea that CBS are doing it as some kind of favour is plum daft. Serious money all round and people will know it. CBS make money, Oprah makes money, H&M think they're being clever/making money but their reputation goes down the toilet and .... nobody cares. CBS have made their money and move on. Oprah has made her money and moves on. H&M? A hint of short term exposure and then it's down, down down. "Freddie Starr ate my hamster". Well, either that or they return to the UK as heroes, oust Chuckie & Wills and set about redecorating Windsor Castle - themed for Meghan's new hit series.
SpeckledJim said:
It's a dramatic escalation. They can't say anything to Oprah that they can't say on Twitter. But the audience is going to be enormous, with a visual to go with the text, providing a lot more subtext and information to whatever they say, and the consequences, good, bad, or both, are hugely magnified.
The very memorable shot of Meghan calling the family 'The Firm' and calling them out as liars, which reminds me of nothing as much as Gene Hackman as mafia lawyer, and Tom Cruise as a brave and principled princess (something like that), will never go away.
Whatever happens next, that video is indelible.
Very much this. As of yet I don't think that reconciliation of some kind is impossible, but what happens on Oprah could well affect Harry for the rest of his life. Meghan has a career of her own. I also think there seems to be an element of M not recognising media involvement. It wasn't The Firm that released details of M's bullying, it was the press looking for dirt. If anything The firm seem to have kept it slightly under wraps, or maybe they genuinely didn't know. The very memorable shot of Meghan calling the family 'The Firm' and calling them out as liars, which reminds me of nothing as much as Gene Hackman as mafia lawyer, and Tom Cruise as a brave and principled princess (something like that), will never go away.
Whatever happens next, that video is indelible.
SpeckledJim said:
It's a dramatic escalation. They can't say anything to Oprah that they can't say on Twitter. But the audience is going to be enormous, with a visual to go with the text, providing a lot more subtext and information to whatever they say, and the consequences, good, bad, or both, are hugely magnified.
The very memorable shot of Meghan calling the family 'The Firm' and calling them out as liars, which reminds me of nothing as much as Gene Hackman as mafia lawyer, and Tom Cruise as a brave and principled princess (something like that), will never go away.
Whatever happens next, that video is indelible.
Meghan is new money, the daughter in law who just turned up. What she says is tomorrows chip paper.The very memorable shot of Meghan calling the family 'The Firm' and calling them out as liars, which reminds me of nothing as much as Gene Hackman as mafia lawyer, and Tom Cruise as a brave and principled princess (something like that), will never go away.
Whatever happens next, that video is indelible.
Royals are huge in the states, diana was huge in the states, as was her death. They have seen Harry grow up, they have seen him party in Las Vegas. His army duty. What he says will be more significant.
Sway said:
Randy Winkman said:
Sway said:
The Spruce Goose said:
Reciprocating mass said:
Meghan will soon get bored, divorce will happen and Harry will realise what a grabber he hooked up with, and realise his very silly mistake
Yes that's been said a few times on here. i'm amazed on the insightfulness considering there isn't a lot known about her, but one thing is sure she has the potential to make the Royal Family look antiquated and moribund.It's not as though she suddenly appeared from nowhere, fully formed as a fledgling princess.
Crikey, before they'd even got together she was "well known" enough for her fellatio skills to have been critiqued via the 'lads' WhatsApp...
It's not as though the narrative has changed though, is it?
Since she originally entered my consciousness, she's been known as being exceptionally difficult to be around and has a well documented history of clinging onto people the "next rung" up for a leg up before dumping them once established.
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