Harry and Meghan
Discussion
Sway said:
Randy Winkman said:
REDGTA said:
purplepenguin said:
I hope it gets disbanded
The trouble with this plan is there would need to be a replacement. I don't trust politicians to be able to resist the opportunity to appoint themselves as President...It's even better if that HoS is apolitical, and hugely well respected globally...
Countdown said:
Sway said:
Randy Winkman said:
REDGTA said:
purplepenguin said:
I hope it gets disbanded
The trouble with this plan is there would need to be a replacement. I don't trust politicians to be able to resist the opportunity to appoint themselves as President...It's even better if that HoS is apolitical, and hugely well respected globally...
What I said, is we need a HoS - and there are clear benefits from that person being apolitical, and incredibly highly respected globally.
Cold said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Randy Winkman said:
REDGTA said:
purplepenguin said:
I hope it gets disbanded
The trouble with this plan is there would need to be a replacement. I don't trust politicians to be able to resist the opportunity to appoint themselves as President...Sway said:
Countdown said:
Sway said:
Randy Winkman said:
REDGTA said:
purplepenguin said:
I hope it gets disbanded
The trouble with this plan is there would need to be a replacement. I don't trust politicians to be able to resist the opportunity to appoint themselves as President...It's even better if that HoS is apolitical, and hugely well respected globally...
What I said, is we need a HoS - and there are clear benefits from that person being apolitical, and incredibly highly respected globally.
Edited to add the question: if it's important, why is an unelected granny doing it?
Edited by Randy Winkman on Thursday 22 April 18:53
Countdown said:
The US, France, Germany, Russia, China (basically every Country that isn't a monarchy) has one single person in charge. We have Boris. why do we need a separate "HoS" ?
Germany has a chancellor which is Angela Merkel and a head of state which is Frank Walter Steinmeier. The Bundespräsident is appointed by a committee for 5 years and a maximum of 10 years. He has mostly a representative function and no real political power, but he has a few duties which can be important, in certain circumstances. He is supposed to be apolitical and does the occasional speeches, including on new years. Germany is the only parliamentary republic out of the bunch.
In Europe, Italy, Austria, among several others are parliamentary republics as well.
France is a semi presidential republic, as is Russia apparently, the US is a presidential republic and well china is obvious.
The UK, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway and Sweden are parliamentary monarchies. I guess naturally they would convert to republics.
Randy Winkman said:
Sway said:
Countdown said:
Sway said:
Randy Winkman said:
REDGTA said:
purplepenguin said:
I hope it gets disbanded
The trouble with this plan is there would need to be a replacement. I don't trust politicians to be able to resist the opportunity to appoint themselves as President...It's even better if that HoS is apolitical, and hugely well respected globally...
What I said, is we need a HoS - and there are clear benefits from that person being apolitical, and incredibly highly respected globally.
Edited to add the question: if it's important, why is an unelected granny doing it?
Edited by Randy Winkman on Thursday 22 April 18:53
What has the Queen achieved as HoS? Blimey.
Here's a clue. Have a look for the number of Google hits for "Queen Elizabeth 2" in comparison to any world leader you can name. There is no more respected and admired HoS on the planet. As such - she is the ultimate ambassador for this country.
Whereas Germany's HoS is so invisible I didn't even know their name, and Angela Merkel calls up the barest fraction of hits.
Even the most controversial, reported on POTUS, in a nation with several times out population barely musters half the hits or interest.
So google hits is the new yardstick? Can we expect to see Lewis Hamilton installed anytime soon. As for apolitical, British monarchs have been letting their views be known for all time, Liz favoured remain and let it be known in the most subtle of ways. The next in line may not be quite so subtle, where will that leave us?
Sway said:
Do I really have to explain how known political views might colour other's opinions of them?
What has the Queen achieved as HoS? Blimey.
Here's a clue. Have a look for the number of Google hits for "Queen Elizabeth 2" in comparison to any world leader you can name. There is no more respected and admired HoS on the planet. As such - she is the ultimate ambassador for this country.
Whereas Germany's HoS is so invisible I didn't even know their name, and Angela Merkel calls up the barest fraction of hits.
Even the most controversial, reported on POTUS, in a nation with several times out population barely musters half the hits or interest.
1) Surely everyone has political views? At least those that represent a political party are open about them and people can vote for them.What has the Queen achieved as HoS? Blimey.
Here's a clue. Have a look for the number of Google hits for "Queen Elizabeth 2" in comparison to any world leader you can name. There is no more respected and admired HoS on the planet. As such - she is the ultimate ambassador for this country.
Whereas Germany's HoS is so invisible I didn't even know their name, and Angela Merkel calls up the barest fraction of hits.
Even the most controversial, reported on POTUS, in a nation with several times out population barely musters half the hits or interest.
2) What has she done in her role affecting politics? Nothing, I'd hope. Surely our politcal set-up works without needing her? What has she saved us from that the government was about to do?
3) I dont think we should have such an ambassador.
4) It sounds like Germany is heading the right way with and almost invisible head of state. Next step .... actually invisible.
Randy Winkman said:
Sway said:
Do I really have to explain how known political views might colour other's opinions of them?
What has the Queen achieved as HoS? Blimey.
Here's a clue. Have a look for the number of Google hits for "Queen Elizabeth 2" in comparison to any world leader you can name. There is no more respected and admired HoS on the planet. As such - she is the ultimate ambassador for this country.
Whereas Germany's HoS is so invisible I didn't even know their name, and Angela Merkel calls up the barest fraction of hits.
Even the most controversial, reported on POTUS, in a nation with several times out population barely musters half the hits or interest.
1) Surely everyone has political views? At least those that represent a political party are open about them and people can vote for them. you're being deliberately obtuse. I'm not talking about Brits, I'm talking about other HoS/leaders, who often are political - and this colours other's views of them. See the protests regarding Trump coming here. What has the Queen achieved as HoS? Blimey.
Here's a clue. Have a look for the number of Google hits for "Queen Elizabeth 2" in comparison to any world leader you can name. There is no more respected and admired HoS on the planet. As such - she is the ultimate ambassador for this country.
Whereas Germany's HoS is so invisible I didn't even know their name, and Angela Merkel calls up the barest fraction of hits.
Even the most controversial, reported on POTUS, in a nation with several times out population barely musters half the hits or interest.
2) What has she done in her role affecting politics? Nothing, I'd hope. Surely our politcal set-up works without needing her? What has she saved us from that the government was about to do? Again, being deliberately dense here. Where have I begun to say she's intervened in politics?
3) I dont think we should have such an ambassador.
Your opinion, with nothing to support that would be a benefit to the UK, and plenty to show it'd be negative. 4) It sounds like Germany is heading the right way with and almost invisible head of state. Next step .... actually invisible.
Good for you comrade, next step, the revolution! With all pigs being equal, eh?
Blue62 said:
So google hits is the new yardstick? Can we expect to see Lewis Hamilton installed anytime soon. As for apolitical, British monarchs have been letting their views be known for all time, Liz favoured remain and let it be known in the most subtle of ways. The next in line may not be quite so subtle, where will that leave us?
Yes indeed.I've said exactly that - that whoever has the most Google hits should be the British head of state...
Jesus wept.
Sway said:
Randy Winkman said:
Sway said:
Do I really have to explain how known political views might colour other's opinions of them?
What has the Queen achieved as HoS? Blimey.
Here's a clue. Have a look for the number of Google hits for "Queen Elizabeth 2" in comparison to any world leader you can name. There is no more respected and admired HoS on the planet. As such - she is the ultimate ambassador for this country.
Whereas Germany's HoS is so invisible I didn't even know their name, and Angela Merkel calls up the barest fraction of hits.
Even the most controversial, reported on POTUS, in a nation with several times out population barely musters half the hits or interest.
1) Surely everyone has political views? At least those that represent a political party are open about them and people can vote for them. you're being deliberately obtuse. I'm not talking about Brits, I'm talking about other HoS/leaders, who often are political - and this colours other's views of them. See the protests regarding Trump coming here. What has the Queen achieved as HoS? Blimey.
Here's a clue. Have a look for the number of Google hits for "Queen Elizabeth 2" in comparison to any world leader you can name. There is no more respected and admired HoS on the planet. As such - she is the ultimate ambassador for this country.
Whereas Germany's HoS is so invisible I didn't even know their name, and Angela Merkel calls up the barest fraction of hits.
Even the most controversial, reported on POTUS, in a nation with several times out population barely musters half the hits or interest.
2) What has she done in her role affecting politics? Nothing, I'd hope. Surely our politcal set-up works without needing her? What has she saved us from that the government was about to do? Again, being deliberately dense here. Where have I begun to say she's intervened in politics?
3) I dont think we should have such an ambassador.
Your opinion, with nothing to support that would be a benefit to the UK, and plenty to show it'd be negative. 4) It sounds like Germany is heading the right way with and almost invisible head of state. Next step .... actually invisible.
Good for you comrade, next step, the revolution! With all pigs being equal, eh?
techguyone said:
CaptainSlow said:
Blue62 said:
Liz favoured remain and let it be known in the most subtle of ways. The next in line may not be quite so subtle, where will that leave us?
did she?
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