Electric Scooters
Discussion
Protest to make them legal to ride on UK roads.....
https://news.sky.com/story/protesters-want-change-...
Is this a good idea or not?
https://news.sky.com/story/protesters-want-change-...
Is this a good idea or not?
Saleen836 said:
Protest to make them legal to ride on UK roads.....
https://news.sky.com/story/protesters-want-change-...
Is this a good idea or not?
No, it’s a terrible idea.https://news.sky.com/story/protesters-want-change-...
Is this a good idea or not?
I had a fantastic break in Lisbon recently, but the city is overrun with them both on the roads and abandoned on the pavements.
Saleen836 said:
Protest to make them legal to ride on UK roads.....
https://news.sky.com/story/protesters-want-change-...
Is this a good idea or not?
I think so, they are no more dangerous than a bike and easy to stow on a train or at work.https://news.sky.com/story/protesters-want-change-...
Is this a good idea or not?
valiant said:
98elise said:
I think so, they are no more dangerous than a bike and easy to stow on a train or at work.
Except that anyone over 25 riding one looks like a complete twonk, even more so if they sport a beard as well. For this reason alone they should be banned.
98elise said:
valiant said:
98elise said:
I think so, they are no more dangerous than a bike and easy to stow on a train or at work.
Except that anyone over 25 riding one looks like a complete twonk, even more so if they sport a beard as well. For this reason alone they should be banned.
I see dozens of them every day. They are a good idea for commuters but they appear to travel significantly faster than an electric bike, and without wanting to start a whole new argument, the attention to road manners is often a very long way below even the most inconsiderate cyclist. I've had to take avoiding action from an electric scooter on the road multiple times.
98elise said:
valiant said:
98elise said:
I think so, they are no more dangerous than a bike and easy to stow on a train or at work.
Except that anyone over 25 riding one looks like a complete twonk, even more so if they sport a beard as well. For this reason alone they should be banned.
It's ever so slightly hypocritical of the government to force EV's on us and carbon reduce this and recycle that but then when people are trying to consciously make an effort to reduce congestion and emissions that they can expect to face 6 points and £300 fine.
Sad the bird died but could have just as easily been a push bike.
valiant said:
Except that anyone over 25 riding one looks like a complete twonk, even more so if they sport a beard as well.
For this reason alone they should be banned.
Agreed of course. For this reason alone they should be banned.
However the main reason for not allowing them will be twonks will be modding them, and they will be driven at 20-30mph on the pavements.
A more realistic speed limit of 20mph for normal electric bikes with mandatory cycle helmets seems a sensible compromise..
Keep bikes off pavements, which are for pedestrians, and on the roads and cycle paths.
I think we need to press on with personal electric transport as quickly as possible, if we want to ease road congestion, reduce vehicle emissions, stop people using cars as much, and generally help people get around as quickly and as cheaply as possible.
Banning stuff like electric scooters is not helping.
Two wheeled electric transport is massively more efficient from a range/purchase cost/charge time perspective than four wheeled vehicles.
These 'mini scooters' are actually a really clever idea. They are relatively cheap, they fold up to nothing and can be carried in your hand, stowed under your desk, taken on the train/tube and so on. They also have a range of 20-30 miles which is more than enough for commuting around a city all week for most people.
Moving up the price range, there are a surprising amount of electric 'Mopeds' or full size motorcycles available now from only £1600 or so upwards, and with top speeds of 30mph (mopeds) and 150mph (Bikes) and ranges of 100miles upwards, these should really be something for more people to consider as well.
Personally, I would allow electric bicycles and electric scooters licence free, and I would also allow anyone who holds a car licence to ride a 30mph electric moped without any form of additional test such as the CBT.
Banning stuff like electric scooters is not helping.
Two wheeled electric transport is massively more efficient from a range/purchase cost/charge time perspective than four wheeled vehicles.
These 'mini scooters' are actually a really clever idea. They are relatively cheap, they fold up to nothing and can be carried in your hand, stowed under your desk, taken on the train/tube and so on. They also have a range of 20-30 miles which is more than enough for commuting around a city all week for most people.
Moving up the price range, there are a surprising amount of electric 'Mopeds' or full size motorcycles available now from only £1600 or so upwards, and with top speeds of 30mph (mopeds) and 150mph (Bikes) and ranges of 100miles upwards, these should really be something for more people to consider as well.
Personally, I would allow electric bicycles and electric scooters licence free, and I would also allow anyone who holds a car licence to ride a 30mph electric moped without any form of additional test such as the CBT.
Legalisation and standardisation are key. They need to ensure they are:
- Limited to top speed the same as ebikes (14.5mph)
- Fitted with appropriate lights and pedestrian warning (I know every cyclist removes the bell)
- And have suitable braking systems
But the same can be said of everything from electric unicycles, electric roller skates or anything.
- Limited to top speed the same as ebikes (14.5mph)
- Fitted with appropriate lights and pedestrian warning (I know every cyclist removes the bell)
- And have suitable braking systems
But the same can be said of everything from electric unicycles, electric roller skates or anything.
Lord Marylebone said:
I think we need to press on with personal electric transport as quickly as possible, if we want to ease road congestion, reduce vehicle emissions, stop people using cars as much, and generally help people get around as quickly and as cheaply as possible.
Banning stuff like electric scooters is not helping.
Two wheeled electric transport is massively more efficient from a range/purchase cost/charge time perspective than four wheeled vehicles.
These 'mini scooters' are actually a really clever idea. They are relatively cheap, they fold up to nothing and can be carried in your hand, stowed under your desk, taken on the train/tube and so on. They also have a range of 20-30 miles which is more than enough for commuting around a city all week for most people.
Moving up the price range, there are a surprising amount of electric 'Mopeds' or full size motorcycles available now from only £1600 or so upwards, and with top speeds of 30mph (mopeds) and 150mph (Bikes) and ranges of 100miles upwards, these should really be something for more people to consider as well.
Personally, I would allow electric bicycles and electric scooters licence free, and I would also allow anyone who holds a car licence to ride a 30mph electric moped without any form of additional test such as the CBT.
First time I've ever agreed with you. Trouble is as soon as you introduce helmets it'll put a massive chunk off completely. ( Obviously not the mopeds).Banning stuff like electric scooters is not helping.
Two wheeled electric transport is massively more efficient from a range/purchase cost/charge time perspective than four wheeled vehicles.
These 'mini scooters' are actually a really clever idea. They are relatively cheap, they fold up to nothing and can be carried in your hand, stowed under your desk, taken on the train/tube and so on. They also have a range of 20-30 miles which is more than enough for commuting around a city all week for most people.
Moving up the price range, there are a surprising amount of electric 'Mopeds' or full size motorcycles available now from only £1600 or so upwards, and with top speeds of 30mph (mopeds) and 150mph (Bikes) and ranges of 100miles upwards, these should really be something for more people to consider as well.
Personally, I would allow electric bicycles and electric scooters licence free, and I would also allow anyone who holds a car licence to ride a 30mph electric moped without any form of additional test such as the CBT.
Down and out said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I think we need to press on with personal electric transport as quickly as possible, if we want to ease road congestion, reduce vehicle emissions, stop people using cars as much, and generally help people get around as quickly and as cheaply as possible.
Banning stuff like electric scooters is not helping.
Two wheeled electric transport is massively more efficient from a range/purchase cost/charge time perspective than four wheeled vehicles.
These 'mini scooters' are actually a really clever idea. They are relatively cheap, they fold up to nothing and can be carried in your hand, stowed under your desk, taken on the train/tube and so on. They also have a range of 20-30 miles which is more than enough for commuting around a city all week for most people.
Moving up the price range, there are a surprising amount of electric 'Mopeds' or full size motorcycles available now from only £1600 or so upwards, and with top speeds of 30mph (mopeds) and 150mph (Bikes) and ranges of 100miles upwards, these should really be something for more people to consider as well.
Personally, I would allow electric bicycles and electric scooters licence free, and I would also allow anyone who holds a car licence to ride a 30mph electric moped without any form of additional test such as the CBT.
First time I've ever agreed with you. Trouble is as soon as you introduce helmets it'll put a massive chunk off completely. ( Obviously not the mopeds).Banning stuff like electric scooters is not helping.
Two wheeled electric transport is massively more efficient from a range/purchase cost/charge time perspective than four wheeled vehicles.
These 'mini scooters' are actually a really clever idea. They are relatively cheap, they fold up to nothing and can be carried in your hand, stowed under your desk, taken on the train/tube and so on. They also have a range of 20-30 miles which is more than enough for commuting around a city all week for most people.
Moving up the price range, there are a surprising amount of electric 'Mopeds' or full size motorcycles available now from only £1600 or so upwards, and with top speeds of 30mph (mopeds) and 150mph (Bikes) and ranges of 100miles upwards, these should really be something for more people to consider as well.
Personally, I would allow electric bicycles and electric scooters licence free, and I would also allow anyone who holds a car licence to ride a 30mph electric moped without any form of additional test such as the CBT.
If you force people to wear helmets for electric bicycles and electric scooters you will ruin the whole idea.
See the effect of Australia's bicycle helmet laws for proof.
Even the really big 'hop on hop off' cycle share schemes in places like Melbourne and Brisbane have totally flopped because no one wants to either carry a helmet around with them or wear one. The companies have even tried distributing 1000 free cycle helmets per month on the bikes out on the streets and people still don't bother with them.
I have no problem with them. IF you take some sort of test (even if it's a CBT type thing).
A bit like a cyclist they are highly dangerous around artics unless they have some training or common sense.
Both should have training to make them safer. Truck drivers should also having training (you can do safe urban driving in some areas which makes you understand cyclists more) - but both parties should protect themselves and each other.
A bit like a cyclist they are highly dangerous around artics unless they have some training or common sense.
Both should have training to make them safer. Truck drivers should also having training (you can do safe urban driving in some areas which makes you understand cyclists more) - but both parties should protect themselves and each other.
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