Jo Swinson

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WCZ

7,363 posts

142 months

Monday 18th November
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Robertj21a said:
Quite difficult to see why most thinking people would vote LibDem these days.
they are the only anti-brexit party, labour are wild and many are still annoyed at the incompetence of the conservatives over the last couple of years + the police and nhs have been st under them

Pan Pan Pan

5,262 posts

59 months

Monday 18th November
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WCZ said:
Robertj21a said:
Quite difficult to see why most thinking people would vote LibDem these days.
they are the only anti-brexit party, labour are wild and many are still annoyed at the incompetence of the conservatives over the last couple of years + the police and nhs have been st under them
When labour allowed the UK population to soar by over 3.3 million in just ten years from the EU alone, let alone the rest of the world, it can hardly be a surprise, if the NHS, (not forgetting the demand for housing, and congestion on the roads) has been struggling to cope since the tories got in.

chrispmartha

5,752 posts

77 months

Monday 18th November
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Pan Pan Pan said:
sugerbear said:
turbobloke said:
Bill said:
sugerbear said:
I think you are overplaying his achievements.
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I don't think that, even if true, it will make any difference to the election result biggrin

Did we ever get that long list of Swinson's commanding achievements?
We left the EU on the 31st of October didn't we? Johhson delivers again !!... Bridge over the Thames.. Water Cannons.. Undeclared relationship with JA and some dodgy Grants.. Russian report hidden away in case it comprises the parties donor or worse..

You can read more about his successes here https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bor...

I don't think Jo Swinson can hold a candle to those achievements.
Just like Johnson you could make promises, even a very simple one, like promising to cross the road outside your house, but if three hundred people who don't want yo to cross that road, stand in the way and stop you from doing so, who is to blame for the broken promise?
‘Come what may’ was the lie

Or are you now admitting that if you have promised something but it turns out to be a bad idea it’s good to change your mind?

kev1974

3,572 posts

77 months

Monday 18th November
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WCZ said:
Robertj21a said:
Quite difficult to see why most thinking people would vote LibDem these days.
they are the only anti-brexit party, labour are wild and many are still annoyed at the incompetence of the conservatives over the last couple of years + the police and nhs have been st under them
It's a General Election though, not a "single issue" Brexit Referendum II. You're stuck with who wins your seat for five years. So better vote for someone who's got workable policies going beyond just "Leave" or "Remain" and who's going to be able to fix things in your seat that aren't just "Stop Brexit!!!!!". Lib Dems were just clueless last time they were anywhere near power.

Pan Pan Pan

5,262 posts

59 months

Monday 18th November
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chrispmartha said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
sugerbear said:
turbobloke said:
Bill said:
sugerbear said:
I think you are overplaying his achievements.
biggrin
I don't think that, even if true, it will make any difference to the election result biggrin

Did we ever get that long list of Swinson's commanding achievements?
We left the EU on the 31st of October didn't we? Johhson delivers again !!... Bridge over the Thames.. Water Cannons.. Undeclared relationship with JA and some dodgy Grants.. Russian report hidden away in case it comprises the parties donor or worse..

You can read more about his successes here https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bor...

I don't think Jo Swinson can hold a candle to those achievements.
Just like Johnson you could make promises, even a very simple one, like promising to cross the road outside your house, but if three hundred people who don't want yo to cross that road, stand in the way and stop you from doing so, who is to blame for the broken promise?
‘Come what may’ was the lie

Or are you now admitting that if you have promised something but it turns out to be a bad idea it’s good to change your mind?
If it is proven to be a bad idea, then yes a change of course could be a good thing, No one has yet proven that it is a bad idea, Only those who don't like Brexit really think it is a bad idea, but that of course is to be expected.

Burwood

14,165 posts

194 months

Monday 18th November
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turbobloke said:
kev1974 said:
Good, the High Court has ruled that the ITV Leader's Debate tomorrow can go ahead without Swinson or the SNP.
Even if there's leave to appeal available it may not happen in time.
Big surprise, that result. What an arrogant waste of time and money.

turbobloke

87,434 posts

208 months

Monday 18th November
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Burwood said:
turbobloke said:
kev1974 said:
Good, the High Court has ruled that the ITV Leader's Debate tomorrow can go ahead without Swinson or the SNP.
Even if there's leave to appeal available it may not happen in time.
Big surprise, that result. What an arrogant waste of time and money.
JC has progressed beyond his first faltering steps in PMQs and is now reasonably pugilistic.

Boris had better prepare well and not under-estimate his foe on entering the arena.

There was no need of Swinson or Sturgeon. Bit part players would have ruined it.

Burwood

14,165 posts

194 months

Monday 18th November
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turbobloke said:
Burwood said:
turbobloke said:
kev1974 said:
Good, the High Court has ruled that the ITV Leader's Debate tomorrow can go ahead without Swinson or the SNP.
Even if there's leave to appeal available it may not happen in time.
Big surprise, that result. What an arrogant waste of time and money.
JC has progressed beyond his first faltering steps in PMQs and is now reasonably pugilistic.

Boris had better prepare well and not under-estimate his foe on entering the arena.

There was no need of Swinson or Sturgeon. Bit part players would have ruined it.
Richard Dawkins no longer debates theologians or youth earth creationists. It just gives them a platform to spout nonsense. Very similar reasoning at play. Cranky would just parrot independence and Swinson would just make stuff up which seems to be their modus operandi

bitchstewie

23,236 posts

158 months

Monday 18th November
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kev1974 said:
Good, the High Court has ruled that the ITV Leader's Debate tomorrow can go ahead without Swinson or the SNP.
Which is why we have courts.

I can see why they'd bring the case, and having read some of the judgement I can see why the court rejected it.

REALIST123

12,356 posts

101 months

Monday 18th November
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WCZ said:
Robertj21a said:
Quite difficult to see why most thinking people would vote LibDem these days.
they are the only anti-brexit party, labour are wild and many are still annoyed at the incompetence of the conservatives over the last couple of years + the police and nhs have been st under them
I think many are still annoyed about the utter incompetence of each and every party over the last couple of years.

Lotusgone

155 posts

75 months

Monday 18th November
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kev1974 said:
Good, the High Court has ruled that the ITV Leader's Debate tomorrow can go ahead without Swinson or the SNP.
What a ludicrous decision. Clearly the judges were mislead and did not know what they were doing.

A Winner Is You

20,998 posts

175 months

Monday 18th November
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Lotusgone said:
kev1974 said:
Good, the High Court has ruled that the ITV Leader's Debate tomorrow can go ahead without Swinson or the SNP.
What a ludicrous decision. Clearly the judges were mislead and did not know what they were doing.
I think we need a People's Judgement to check that this is the direction they want to proceed. After all, what's wrong with extra judiciary?

gifdy

1,864 posts

189 months

Monday 18th November
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dandarez said:
oyster said:
TheRealNoNeedy said:
Bill said:
Randy Winkman said:
Roughly the same in both respects as BJ and Corbyn.
yes But for some reason the thread has mostly focussed on her looks with a side serving of name calling.
In what way has Swinson achieved anywhere near what Boris has?


To suggest that is just trolling
You’re not one of those shallow types who presumes success is only measured by whether you’ve run a business or whether you’ve climbed the greasy corporate pole are you?
I think you need to come out of your 'shell'biggrin

Thought I'd look back in here as I've just spoken with one of Swinson's 'foot soldiers'.

I'm working away up here in the study and I see light flash - boing! boing!.
Rush downstairs and open door - oh gawd no! A Lib-Dum canvasser. rolleyes

'Look before you say anything, I've had lots of election stuff so...'
Dum interrupts 'That's good, and have you made a decision yet?'
I tell him that to-date I've had nothing, only their Lib-'Dem' (being courteous wink ) paraphernalia - nothing from any other party, at all.
'You seem to spend a lot of money don't you?' I asked.
We had a pointless chat for a couple mins about their bottomless pit of money, then he asked about my 'bell'.

He said he wasn't sure if it was a bell or not, and asked how does it work?'
I told him he was not alone - it's why I'd stuck that scribbled sticker 'bell' above it biggrin and because we were getting fed up with people who bang on our nice new glass panel door frontage.
I'll put a proper sign up when I get a mo.

I tell him it's Wi-Fi.
He was half my age and I could see his brain trying to fathom it all out. He said, 'oh, ok.'
I waived him good luck on his journey.

I thought to myself, do people really want to vote for these people? Dum, eh?
Never mind all that. Tell me more about the bell. I need one

IanH755

1,240 posts

68 months

Monday 18th November
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A Winner Is You said:
Lotusgone said:
kev1974 said:
Good, the High Court has ruled that the ITV Leader's Debate tomorrow can go ahead without Swinson or the SNP.
What a ludicrous decision. Clearly the judges were mislead and did not know what they were doing.
I think we need a People's Judgement to check that this is the direction they want to proceed. After all, what's wrong with extra judiciary?
I'm surprised that the Lib Dems didn't stick to their current form by telling everyone to ignore that decision because the Lib Dem's didn't like it and if people vote for them they'll keep redoing that court case until those Judges finally make the "correct" decision biggrin

Bill

40,188 posts

203 months

Monday 18th November
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I'm confused. Does this mean the courts aren't full of establishment remainers?



Or are they just letting BoJo and Corbyn show themselves up as the clowns they are so the LDs can clean up??silly

gizlaroc

13,207 posts

172 months

Monday 18th November
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I just watched Jo Swinson give her speech at the CBI today, where she said the Lib Dems will not do a deal with Labour as speaking to the Jewish community realised just how scared they are and she can't support that.

However, I can't find anyone covering, what is, huge news.

kev1974

3,572 posts

77 months

Monday 18th November
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gizlaroc said:
I just watched Jo Swinson give her speech at the CBI today, where she said the Lib Dems will not do a deal with Labour as speaking to the Jewish community realised just how scared they are and she can't support that.

However, I can't find anyone covering, what is, huge news.
Probaby because even the journalists have stopped listening to her

Robertj21a

7,354 posts

53 months

Monday 18th November
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gizlaroc said:
I just watched Jo Swinson give her speech at the CBI today, where she said the Lib Dems will not do a deal with Labour as speaking to the Jewish community realised just how scared they are and she can't support that.

However, I can't find anyone covering, what is, huge news.
I don't think Lib Dems, and particularly Jo Swinson, will ever equate to 'huge news'.

gizlaroc

13,207 posts

172 months

Monday 18th November
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But she has now said that she would never help Corbyn get into Number 10.

Surely, that was his only chance?

Johnnytheboy

18,925 posts

134 months

Monday 18th November
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So who would she do a deal with???