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chris watton said:
El stovey said:
Robertj21a said:
Blame David Cameron and all those within the M25 who never understood the mood of the country.
What’s the mood of the country? How can you possibly know why people (the country) voted the way they did.
There’s so many different factors at play in this election.
I’m not sure how anyone can say what the mood of the country is when so many factors are involved. People then just say the mood is whatever they want to suit their own narrative.
I’m not saying what the mood of the country is apart from it’s to vote the conservatives into government. There’s loads of reasons why it happened though.
apparently the lib dem constitution says that the leader must be a sitting MP, if that's correct then their talent pool to draw from is 11 people. I'm not sure who the full 11 winners and therefore leadership contenders are (other than the completely useless example of Sarah Olney in my seat of Richmond Park) but not aware of any particularly well known and well liked ones. Think it will be hard for them to come back from this, it's possible that Jo Swinson has not just killed their 2019 election but killed them forever. As a parliamentary party anyway, it's possible that this will knock them back to being just a local governent party I suppose.
Edited by kev1974 on Friday 13th December 09:47
chris watton said:
You must have listened to the same R4 programme I did early this morning. The new narrative is that this GE had nothing at all to do with Brexit, and all to do with Corbyn, according to all at the Beeb. So funny..
I noticed that too...there were at lot of faces looking like smarked arses at the BBC this morning, the mood was palpably gloomy and the presenters seemed unable to countenance any suggestion that the result might just have been about BrexitEl stovey said:
Robertj21a said:
Blame David Cameron and all those within the M25 who never understood the mood of the country.
What’s the mood of the country? How can you possibly know why people (the country) voted the way they did.
There’s so many different factors at play in this election.
Amateurish said:
blueg33 said:
Lib Dem’s came second here, but reduced the Tory majority in a safe seat, and took all of labours big losses.
Are you in Stratford? Our LD candidate did a good job here, given the national picture. Obviously there will a post mortem about why the Lib Dems did so poorly.
Many will say they were not credible, but take a look at the principal players in the Labour shadow cabinet and the Lib Dems would be more credible dragging in passers by off the street.
Revoke A50 seems to have been a mistake as was making it all about Swinson. Another contributing factor not mentioned has to be their stance on Trans rights when they refused to acknowledge that there was an issue balancing this with the rights of women. May not have gone down to well with exactly the sort of middle class women they were hoping to get vote for Swinson.
Many will say they were not credible, but take a look at the principal players in the Labour shadow cabinet and the Lib Dems would be more credible dragging in passers by off the street.
Revoke A50 seems to have been a mistake as was making it all about Swinson. Another contributing factor not mentioned has to be their stance on Trans rights when they refused to acknowledge that there was an issue balancing this with the rights of women. May not have gone down to well with exactly the sort of middle class women they were hoping to get vote for Swinson.
Lotobear said:
chris watton said:
You must have listened to the same R4 programme I did early this morning. The new narrative is that this GE had nothing at all to do with Brexit, and all to do with Corbyn, according to all at the Beeb. So funny..
I noticed that too...there were at lot of faces looking like smarked arses at the BBC this morning, the mood was palpably gloomy and the presenters seemed unable to countenance any suggestion that the result might just have been about BrexitJagLover said:
Obviously there will a post mortem about why the Lib Dems did so poorly.
Many will say they were not credible, but take a look at the principal players in the Labour shadow cabinet and the Lib Dems would be more credible dragging in passers by off the street.
Revoke A50 seems to have been a mistake as was making it all about Swinson. Another contributing factor not mentioned has to be their stance on Trans rights when they refused to acknowledge that there was an issue balancing this with the rights of women. May not have gone down to well with exactly the sort of middle class women they were hoping to get vote for Swinson.
Revoke was their mistake as even most people who voted remain accepted that we had to leave. Without revoke I am convinced that the Lib Dems would have had 20 or 30 seats more than the pitiful 11 they managed. Many will say they were not credible, but take a look at the principal players in the Labour shadow cabinet and the Lib Dems would be more credible dragging in passers by off the street.
Revoke A50 seems to have been a mistake as was making it all about Swinson. Another contributing factor not mentioned has to be their stance on Trans rights when they refused to acknowledge that there was an issue balancing this with the rights of women. May not have gone down to well with exactly the sort of middle class women they were hoping to get vote for Swinson.
She was toast and burned bridges
Soon as she effectively slagged her deputy Ed Davey off in some interview about the coalition I thought she will be a leader with an issue. That issue being the working relationship between her and her deputy
IMHO Best thing they could do is just give it to Ed Davey - not my cup of tea but has some reasonable interview experience.
Soon as she effectively slagged her deputy Ed Davey off in some interview about the coalition I thought she will be a leader with an issue. That issue being the working relationship between her and her deputy
IMHO Best thing they could do is just give it to Ed Davey - not my cup of tea but has some reasonable interview experience.
Amateurish said:
I thought that revoke was the right policy decision. How wrong I was.
If the objective was a career break it was the perfect policy decision. Fortunately it seems most people could see the issues with it.
Still, if Loose Women needs a new anchor there's a candidate now.
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