Police Officer killed on duty

[Red 4]

Grahamdub said:

steveT350C said:

Sky News Breaking
@SkyNewsBreak
Avon and Somerset Police says a police officer has suffered severe facial injuries while trying to detain a suspect in the Staple Hill area of Bristol

Just heard it on the local news. It was last night by the sound of it.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/po...

And we're referring to the job in Avon and Somerset because it's out of the ordinary ?

As grim as that job sounds it is not unusual for officers to be injured.

Eg. In the last week 4 officers have been hospitalised near to me.

2 last week (on the same night but at different jobs - both assaulted).

2 last night - (same job - both assaulted.

I hope the officer in Bristol is OK but this will be forgotten by tomorrow and things will go on as they are.

It needs to stop.

[anonymous-user]

Red 4 said:

Grahamdub said:

steveT350C said:

Sky News Breaking
@SkyNewsBreak
Avon and Somerset Police says a police officer has suffered severe facial injuries while trying to detain a suspect in the Staple Hill area of Bristol

Just heard it on the local news. It was last night by the sound of it.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/po...

And we're referring to the job in Avon and Somerset because it's out of the ordinary ?

As grim as that job sounds it is not unusual for officers to be injured.

Eg. In the last week 4 officers have been hospitalised near to me.

2 last week (on the same night but at different jobs - both assaulted).

2 last night - (same job - both assaulted.

I hope the officer in Bristol is OK but this will be forgotten by tomorrow and things will go on as they are.

It needs to stop.

It probably wouldn't have made the headlines today if it wasn't for the officer being killed. Sad state of affairs.

[NoNeed]

Grahamdub said:

Red 4 said:

Grahamdub said:

steveT350C said:

Sky News Breaking
@SkyNewsBreak
Avon and Somerset Police says a police officer has suffered severe facial injuries while trying to detain a suspect in the Staple Hill area of Bristol

Just heard it on the local news. It was last night by the sound of it.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/po...

And we're referring to the job in Avon and Somerset because it's out of the ordinary ?

As grim as that job sounds it is not unusual for officers to be injured.

Eg. In the last week 4 officers have been hospitalised near to me.

2 last week (on the same night but at different jobs - both assaulted).

2 last night - (same job - both assaulted.

I hope the officer in Bristol is OK but this will be forgotten by tomorrow and things will go on as they are.

It needs to stop.

It probably wouldn't have made the headlines today if it wasn't for the officer being killed. Sad state of affairs.

I would live all politicians to have to do a couple of shifts on the beat and on the landings in the local prison and see what officers face on a daily basis, it should be mandatory as well as a couple of days in an inner city comprehensive/academy

[Brads67]

NoNeed said:

I would live all politicians to have to do a couple of shifts on the beat and on the landings in the local prison and see what officers face on a daily basis, it should be mandatory as well as a couple of days in an inner city comprehensive/academy

Why ? You think they don't know ? And I'm sure every applicant knows what the role entails before accepting it.

We all pays cops wages, should we all have to do a shift to see what "life on the beat" is like.?

I'm pretty sure they would have had an inkling it was s before turning out to the job, so why they never went in mob handed is baffling.

[NoNeed]

Brads67 said:

Why ? You think they don't know ? And I'm sure every applicant knows what the role entails before accepting it.

We all pays cops wages, should we all have to do a shift to see what "life on the beat" is like.?

I'm pretty sure they would have had an inkling it was s before turning out to the job, so why they never went in mob handed is baffling.

so it could be funded correctly and not by people that have no idea

[Red 4]

Brads67 said:

NoNeed said:

I would live all politicians to have to do a couple of shifts on the beat and on the landings in the local prison and see what officers face on a daily basis, it should be mandatory as well as a couple of days in an inner city comprehensive/academy

Why ? You think they don't know ?

Many of the political elite (but not all, obviously) have absolutely no clue of what really goes on - and, tbh, I don't think they care.

Many of our "leaders" have spent their privileged lives at risk of suffering no more serious injury than a paper cut and have no idea how lots of people live their lives.

In fairness, most people don't know what really goes on - but politicians ? Don't make me laugh.

[anonymous-user]

Brads67 said:

I'm pretty sure they would have had an inkling it was s before turning out to the job, so why they never went in mob handed is baffling.

It totally depends on what information was reported.

'Mob-handed' more often than not means delays in the response.

Sometimes it's appropriate - like reports of 20 people fighting in a pub where multiple have called / corroborated it. A burglary in progress, as this appears to be, rarely needs that sort of thing.

[Digga]

Red 4 said:

Brads67 said:

NoNeed said:

I would live all politicians to have to do a couple of shifts on the beat and on the landings in the local prison and see what officers face on a daily basis, it should be mandatory as well as a couple of days in an inner city comprehensive/academy

Why ? You think they don't know ?

Many of the political elite (but not all, obviously) have absolutely no clue of what really goes on - and, tbh, I don't think they care.

Many of our "leaders" have spent their privileged lives at risk of suffering no more serious injury than a paper cut and have no idea how lots of people live their lives.

In fairness, most people don't know what really goes on - but politicians ? Don't make me laugh.

Agreed. Which is why it is a shame that Javid has been promoted out of his role in the Home Office, because through his brother, I believe he had a very realistic idea.

[Brads67]

Red 4 said:

Many of the political elite (but not all, obviously) have absolutely no clue of what really goes on - and, tbh, I don't think they care.

Many of our "leaders" have spent their privileged lives at risk of suffering no more serious injury than a paper cut and have no idea how lots of people live their lives.

In fairness, most people don't know what really goes on - but politicians ? Don't make me laugh.

Not sure I believe that. I suspect that anyone that has watched the plethora of cop documentaries has had it drummed into them how hard life on the beat is.

[David A]

Brads67 said:

Red 4 said:

Many of the political elite (but not all, obviously) have absolutely no clue of what really goes on - and, tbh, I don't think they care.

Many of our "leaders" have spent their privileged lives at risk of suffering no more serious injury than a paper cut and have no idea how lots of people live their lives.

In fairness, most people don't know what really goes on - but politicians ? Don't make me laugh.

Not sure I believe that. I suspect that anyone that has watched the plethora of cop documentaries has had it drummed into them how hard life on the beat is.

I would disagree by way of saying the cop docus in no way show the impact on the personal or family life. They only touch on the odd gritty case not some of risks undertaken on a regular basis, the various things they have to take care of and some of the downright frustrating and stty nature of some parts of the job. They are entertainment. They are not there to show the bad stuff. Granted the odd extreme event is shown but I don’t think they are wholly representative coverage of the role.

[NoNeed]

David A said:

Brads67 said:

Red 4 said:

Many of the political elite (but not all, obviously) have absolutely no clue of what really goes on - and, tbh, I don't think they care.

Many of our "leaders" have spent their privileged lives at risk of suffering no more serious injury than a paper cut and have no idea how lots of people live their lives.

In fairness, most people don't know what really goes on - but politicians ? Don't make me laugh.

Not sure I believe that. I suspect that anyone that has watched the plethora of cop documentaries has had it drummed into them how hard life on the beat is.

I would disagree by way of saying the cop docus in no way show the impact on the personal or family life. They only touch on the odd gritty case not some of risks undertaken on a regular basis, the various things they have to take care of and some of the downright frustrating and stty nature of some parts of the job. They are entertainment. They are not there to show the bad stuff. Granted the odd extreme event is shown but I don’t think they are wholly representative coverage of the role.

cops do things you just don't see on the telly,some homes for instance are that bad the RSPCA would not let you house rats in them, but you have to go in to get some crappy mother or father and seeing how their kids have to live all this while struggling for breath due to the stench and your feet sticking to mouldy carpet, that is just one example of something most coppers have done but you don't see that. It is the same with prison docs,the worst stuff doesn't make it past the editing suite.

[Salmonofdoubt]

NoNeed said:

cops do things you just don't see on the telly,some homes for instance are that bad the RSPCA would not let you house rats in them, but you have to go in to get some crappy mother or father and seeing how their kids have to live all this while struggling for breath due to the stench and your feet sticking to mouldy carpet, that is just one example of something most coppers have done but you don't see that. It is the same with prison docs,the worst stuff doesn't make it past the editing suite.

It isn't just cops that have to put up with that kind of ste. There's a plethora of public workers who are exposed to the worst of society but get battered by the media and politicians.

The things that long serving prison officers have to deal with would haunt me.

[wiliferus]

Brads67 said:

I'm pretty sure they would have had an inkling it was s before turning out to the job, so why they never went in mob handed is baffling.

The irony of you saying this means you have no idea what being a copper is like...

They could have gone in as mob handed as they like, it doesn’t stop a bobby getting run over.

Mob handed helps in disorder situations like pub fights, it doesn’t necessarily help in all situations.
You could have sent 100 cops to that burglary, but if one of the perpetrators was hell bent on getting away, he’d have run over as many cops as you put in front of him.

[Brads67]

wiliferus said:

The irony of you saying this means you have no idea what being a copper is like...

They could have gone in as mob handed as they like, it doesn’t stop a bobby getting run over.

Mob handed helps in disorder situations like pub fights, it doesn’t necessarily help in all situations.
You could have sent 100 cops to that burglary, but if one of the perpetrators was hell bent on getting away, he’d have run over as many cops as you put in front of him.

Why would I have an idea of what it's like?. I can imagine 10 s would take their chances or running from one copper more than they would have had ten turned up.? But hey ho, it's speculation both ways.

[visitinglondon]

Red 4 said:

Do the math.

It’s maths, not math.

[Red 4]

visitinglondon said:

Red 4 said:

Do the math.

It’s maths, not math.

Thank you for your input.

I am sure there are many more threads that would benefit from your valuable contribution.

Now, off you go, there's a good plank.

[Pothole]

Brads67 said:

Why would I have an idea of what it's like?. I can imagine 10 s would take their chances or running from one copper more than they would have had ten turned up.? But hey ho, it's speculation both ways.

With no idea, why would you speculate? Unless you know for a fact that more resources were available to attend this incident at the specific time the call came in, the content of the call and the detail of the incident passed on that call and/or while the first response vehicle was en route your speculation is utterly pointless. It also smacks of blaming someone other than the murderer for the murder of this officer. Why would you want to do that?

[Brads67]

Pothole said:

With no idea, why would you speculate? Unless you know for a fact that more resources were available to attend this incident at the specific time the call came in, the content of the call and the detail of the incident passed on that call and/or while the first response vehicle was en route your speculation is utterly pointless. It also smacks of blaming someone other than the murderer for the murder of this officer. Why would you want to do that?

Stop talking ste.

Speculation is just that, it's what people do when they are discussing a subject. Grow up, or move over to mumsnet.

[NoNeed]

Brads67 said:

Stop talking ste.

Speculation is just that, it's what people do when they are discussing a subject. Grow up, or move over to mumsnet.

Given the subject matter and the fact freinds,family or colleagues may well visit this popular site, a little more sensitivity is required, telling people to mive to another site when it is you that is the problem won't help.

[Brads67]

But it's not me that's the problem though is it?.

I don't appreciate the insinuation that I would somehow hope the s got off with it.