Poll: Election 2019
Total Members Polled: 1601
Discussion
From the feeling around wales it could be a possibility wales could turn blue the only thing stopping them is the valleys which has way to many seats for its tiny area. I don't know any body how is voting labour with most either reluctantly voting tory and going for plaid cymru.
Even my next door neighbour him and his wife are voting tory due to corbyns plans on housing and land which would loss them thousands.
There is a huge lack of trust with labour its failures in the assembly, wasting money on Cardiff airport, circuit of wales, m4 relief road plus other failures is causing a big shift in voting patterns. Also put in the huge leave vote especially in the valleys and with labour flip flopping on Brexit if things go good maybe some valley seats could switch sides but that is a huge if.
Even my next door neighbour him and his wife are voting tory due to corbyns plans on housing and land which would loss them thousands.
There is a huge lack of trust with labour its failures in the assembly, wasting money on Cardiff airport, circuit of wales, m4 relief road plus other failures is causing a big shift in voting patterns. Also put in the huge leave vote especially in the valleys and with labour flip flopping on Brexit if things go good maybe some valley seats could switch sides but that is a huge if.
WCZ said:
There’s been a lot of anti Tory stuff in the media recently, doesn’t surprise me
I think in the next couple of days there’s more to come too
Cons will have a small majority imo and brexit will continue to be deadlocked as a result then a second ref will happen
Could be a good shout.I think in the next couple of days there’s more to come too
Cons will have a small majority imo and brexit will continue to be deadlocked as a result then a second ref will happen
djc206 said:
That’s nowhere near “conclusive”. 326 needed for an overall majority, practically 320 due to the speaker/deputies and Sinn Fein. That’s a wafer thin majority given how inaccurate the polls have proven in the last few years.
Also then there's the Torys that are remainers...if any will exist in this brave new worldJohnnytheboy said:
People keep muttering about the weather affecting turnout, but my gut feeling is poor weather would favour the Tories, as their core vote seem to have a higher propensity for getting their arse in gear and going to vote.
I wonder if there is any data on this?
You could ask the people that postally voted? I wonder if there is any data on this?
All my staunch Tory relatives had their votes back in the post the day after they got them and have been telling every man, son, son-in-law and dogs and followers. My wife, whom isn't a Tory, hasn't sent her postal vote back yet and "might go and vote in person on the day if she doesn't get stuck in traffic........."!!!!!!
philv said:
confused_buyer said:
stongle said:
Well, no one really knows in advance, so its likely BS. What is correct, is that regardless of a polling lead of 10%; Boris coudld still lose / come in hung if the marginals don't go the right way. There are 90 of those, so it IS harder to tell than Boy Georges gender (back in the 80's anyway).
It's not entirely BS on the postals I think. Remember it was the postals which made some people reckon Leave were in with a chance of winning in 2016. It's just that the figures I've heard from a couple of places are out of line with what you might expect but they've been checked and seem right. So who knows.
Usual fake claims and BS.
uk66fastback said:
1983 and 2017 General Elections ... wonder how different the UK will look on Friday ...
Edited by uk66fastback on Wednesday 11th December 02:52
Bugger.
We will never hear the end of it.
FN2TypeR said:
Yep tight
Tories could be as low as 311 based on that poll.
If, say, the Tories get around 315 I am really curious why many remainers seem to think they will get a second referendum.
The path if the Tories get a decent majority seems clear. The WA already of the table will be passed and then FTA negotiations will start without parliament trying to hijack the proceedings.
In the event that the Tories can only form a government with the support of the DUP the path of least resistance is to simply wait until 31 January and then leave without a deal...…….
stongle said:
philv said:
confused_buyer said:
stongle said:
Well, no one really knows in advance, so its likely BS. What is correct, is that regardless of a polling lead of 10%; Boris coudld still lose / come in hung if the marginals don't go the right way. There are 90 of those, so it IS harder to tell than Boy Georges gender (back in the 80's anyway).
It's not entirely BS on the postals I think. Remember it was the postals which made some people reckon Leave were in with a chance of winning in 2016. It's just that the figures I've heard from a couple of places are out of line with what you might expect but they've been checked and seem right. So who knows.
Usual fake claims and BS.
The count is always interesting; all the parties will have members/tellers there to look over the shoulder of those counting/sampling the ballots, recording the results and importantly where the ballot box came from (box number/ward - the demographic of the area is obviously important). This information is collated, compared to previous results, and fed back to party managers; it’s important because you can get a fairly accurate indication of the result early on in the count.
I did something stupid last night, I entered into a debate with a labour supporter on social media.
Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
One of my closest friends has gone full anti-tory despite owning his own small company, degree educated ...blah blah. Just absolutely hates them and the language he will happily use in social media posts is appalling BUT when he does he gets the applause from the unwashed masses - so perhaps that's why.
Bergs said:
I did something stupid last night, I entered into a debate with a labour supporter on social media.
Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
The Mrs has a mate whose a teacher so I am now “Rob the racist” because I support the conservatives, she won’t ever allow me to counter her claims so I gave up and despite a wedding with not seen her since thankfully. Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
We were accosted outside our children's primary school at collection time by some Labour canvassers last week. They got quite aggressive with us when we failed to engage with them, telling us how awful the school is without the extra funding Labour would provide.
The school is fine and I just don't understand what people think they will achieve by doorstepping parents when they're going about their business.
The school is fine and I just don't understand what people think they will achieve by doorstepping parents when they're going about their business.
Edited by janesmith1950 on Wednesday 11th December 08:09
ecsrobin said:
Bergs said:
I did something stupid last night, I entered into a debate with a labour supporter on social media.
Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
The Mrs has a mate whose a teacher so I am now “Rob the racist” because I support the conservatives, she won’t ever allow me to counter her claims so I gave up and despite a wedding with not seen her since thankfully. Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
Bergs said:
I did something stupid last night, I entered into a debate with a labour supporter on social media.
Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
And some of the Brexit at all costs and anti Labour stuff is just as bad, I’ve been called a deluded marxist Labour fantasist on SM for questioning some clean Brexit none sense, I’ve never voted Labour.Want to guess how it went?
I got called a racist and cruel before we'd even got 2 sentences in.. and they've since deleted their comments.
Have people lost the ability to have a proper debate without resorting to stereotyping and name calling? I feel like the whole thing has become toxic and I blame the 2 main parties for that - they've hardly behaved.
Have a read of the comments on the conservative facebook group if you've not already, look at the language used and the levels of bitterness and anger pointed at Tory supporters.
I wonder how they have the time to spend trolling as much as they do - I wish I had that much spare time.
The whole thing is Toxic and in the gutter.
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