Election 2019

[Sway]

Nickgnome said:

Except the number of Hi Res streaming services are growing and apparently quite profitable. Not everyone will tolerate lossy sounding music.

There is already a small demand for 8k TVs even though the media is not yet available. I would anticipate in 10 years time 8k will be seen as the same as 4K now.

I still run an old Pioneer plasma but the vast majority of my friends have already adopted 4K.

People's eyes aren't good enough to tell the difference in the vast majority of cases - we are now well into the point where our biological capabilities are the limitation.

HDR makes a huge difference, but there are very few cases where someone can actually tell the difference between 4k and 8k.

[crankedup]

Nickgnome said:

crankedup said:

any of these vacancies due to the very low wages and high stress levels in the job?
Agi’ will not fail, mechanisation and tech’ are making inroads into the sector. Human hands requirement within the industry is falling. For example strawberry picking by robot is in an advanced
stage and will soon be available for general use. Strawberries are one of the most difficult fruits to pick.
You may need to find an alternative industry for your ‘fun to watch’.

You’re not one of those farmers are you?

Maybe in time mechanisation may take up the slack or as some of those farmers are doing is diversifying into Europe to produce their product. So foodstuff we exported now stays in the Eu.

Probably a good thing food miles wise.

If you care to do a little research on farming tech’ you will be surprised perhaps at the level of mechanisation and technology that has been introduced and is in the immeadiate pipeline.
The day’s of people spending relentless hours picking produce from fields and under glass are numbered.

[Tankrizzo]

catweasle said:

lives on a beach, owns a yacht and property on the continent, traveled worldwide, financially secure and in rude health, yet looking forward to services failing for those not so fortunate as him because it is their own fault.

would not swap places with him for all the tea in china

He would also fire his staff for voting for Brexit and not employ a Brexiter

[crankedup]

Nickgnome said:

crankedup said:

vonuber said:

crankedup said:

Try living in Southern France !

Immigrant complaining about immigrants?

Wrong interpretation and assumptions.
The French people detest the English, they also absolutely detest the Arab population living nearby in their own ‘exclusive’ area. Racist in the extreme.
My friends emigrated to S.France 30+ years ago, their two sons and daughter have all married French partners. Very decent people all have their own off spring now. We spend a fair amount of our time with them all.

I disagree, some French may but the vast majority do not. We spend time there mainly along the coast but sometimes at various friends holiday and ski home's. We’ve not found the prejudice you seem to see.

Could it just be that those racist French are of exactly the same type as the similarly racist English, Welsh or Scottish.

Small minded insular, insecure and possibly of lower intelligence. The commonality is they all feel the need to see immigrants as ‘other’ and the cause of any issues they may have.

They will be found in every country and perfect for some far right wing political types.

Yes our friends are near to the coast, about thirty miles, in the region of VAR. Spend much time in and around St Tropaz, Monoco and much inbetween. Not much racism may in those parts because the immigrants do not tend to be in those spots. It’s in the small French towns and villages that racism is evident I have found, especially the Arab community.

[anonymous-user]

Tankrizzo said:

He would also fire his staff for voting for Brexit and not employ a Brexiter

he's making himself look an ar..hole all by himself so no need to make things up

[Tankrizzo]

catweasle said:

he's making himself look an ar..hole all by himself so no need to make things up

I'm not! He genuinely admitted this a few weeks ago!

I gave Nick the benefit of the doubt for a while but he's like some bizarre Harry Enfield sketch made flesh.

[jakesmith]

Nickgnome said:

Please explain exactly what you mean by areas being blighted by immigration then.

I’ve lived in London and have never considered Brixton or Clapham for instance as being blighted by anything.

We all make choices in life. You are not trapped anywhere.

What is my fortune in life. Having a very average and normal childhood I suppose and then being willing to go wherever I needed to progress.

And there you go again, completely unable to recognise you ability to look at anything apart than through the lens of your own opinions and experience

Clapham and Brixton are cosmopolitan areas with massive variance in wealth and culture, as well as fantastic communications into central London which is a global hub of culture and education.

For many people living in diabolical sink estates in places riddled with social problems and crime, Brixton may as well be Mayfair in terms of how attainable it is as a place to live.

People are not only constrained by economic circumstances, they also have family and health considerations, as well as the confidence and intelligence and educational opportunities to extracate themselves from the circumstances of their lives.

The culture and nature of some towns has been changed forever by immigration. People have found themselves surrounded by neighbours who don’t abide by norms of expected behaviour, don’t want to engage and interact, don’t even want to learn the language. I’m talking about Northern former mining and industrial towns, not some trendy part of London where you used to go to check out up and coming restaurants.

If Labour is going to allow a policy of an unlimited number of people from anywhere in the world to come and live here then they will be punished for it at the polls.

[Dont like rolls]

...I lived next door to Brixton (North Clapham) when it was burning after the riots......lets say it was not what you describe it is like today

[crankedup]

Tankrizzo said:

catweasle said:

he's making himself look an ar..hole all by himself so no need to make things up

I'm not! He genuinely admitted this a few weeks ago!

I gave Nick the benefit of the doubt for a while but he's like some bizarre Harry Enfield sketch made flesh.

That’s close!

[jakesmith]

Dont like rolls said:

...I lived next door to Brixton (North Clapham) when it was burning after the riots......lets say it was not what you describe it is like today

I used to go clubbing there in the mid 90’s and it was a cool place to go and had fashionable bars and restaurants opening

There are parts of it that are still grim today but I’d rather be there than a thousand other parts of the U.K. that aren’t attached to the best city in the world

[Welshbeef]

(Tory voter here).

Why are Libs so poor in the polls they seem to be utterly stagnated /if not falling.
Labour seem to be doing utterly nothing they cannot even get to represent 1/3rd of the aural population whereas Tory with a similar % increase as labour would need to get to 1/3rd would be at representing 50% of the U.K. population.
What do labour say when challenged about this? They talk about funding shortfalls but polls are clearly stating the public either don’t mind or accept it or would rather that than the prospect of a Tory govt

[768]

FPTP.

A vote for anything other than an established top two party is seen as wasted. People tell the polls who they'd want to vote for when further out from an election and as it gets closer they tend to narrow their choices.

[anonymous-user]

More free stuff from Corbyn - scrap NHS dental check up fees!

Hurrah!

[Jaaws]

digimeistter said:

More free stuff from Corbyn - scrap NHS dental check up fees!

Hurrah!

If this ever happened they'd just shift the loss of NHS Patient Charge Revenue onto the other two 'treatment band' charges, so no overall loss to the Exchequer. Free check ups but treatment cost rises.

Edited by Jaaws on Sunday 17th November 08:06

[borcy]

Jaaws said:

If this ever happened they'd just shift the loss o NHS Patient Charge Revenue onto the other two 'treatment band' charges, so no overall loss to the Exchequer. Free check ups but treatment cost rises.

From what I've read and how i interpret it they'd provide new money so it would be the same cost for more expensive treatments.

[turbobloke]

borcy said:

Jaaws said:

If this ever happened they'd just shift the loss o NHS Patient Charge Revenue onto the other two 'treatment band' charges, so no overall loss to the Exchequer. Free check ups but treatment cost rises.

From what I've read and how i interpret it they'd provide new money so it would be the same cost for more expensive treatments.

New money, does that translate as today's students paying for it with higher taxes when they get to earn a decent salary, in order to fund it while servicing the loan interest?

[Earthdweller]

Some leaks this morning on the Marxist manifesto :

A Right to Food Act that could be used to control some food prices;

A windfall tax on oil companies that risks pushing up petrol prices;

A widespread nationalisation programme of trains, energy firms and broadband providers;

The effective abolition of academies and free schools, with all educational institutions bought back under local council control;

A milkshake tax, with a massive expansion of the sugar levy;

Abolition of local NHS Clinical Commissioning Groups;

A new Cabinet Minister for Women and new laws to make misogyny a hate crime, which one critic claimed would amount to outlawing wolf-whistling.

[turbobloke]

AIUI dental check-ups and treatment are free if you're:

-under 18, or under 19 and in full-time education
-pregnant or have had a baby in the previous 12 months
-being treated in an NHS hospital and your treatment is carried out by the hospital dentist
-receiving low income benefits
-you're under 20 and a dependant of someone receiving low income benefits
-if you or your spouse (including civil partner) receive:
Income Support
Income-related Employment and Support Allowance
Income-based Jobseeker's Allowance
Pension Credit
Universal Credit (depending)

Students and low-income families already qualify, this looks like a stunt for the middle ground voter to chew on: pay for dental check-ups indirectly and get free marxism.

Gordon Brown managed to levy over 100 stealth taxes for the people who voted Labour, unfortunately others had to pay them as well. Still, Brown's socialism looks better than marxism.

[Tyre Smoke]

Earthdweller said:

Some leaks this morning on the Marxist manifesto :

A Right to Food Act that could be used to control some food prices;

A windfall tax on oil companies that risks pushing up petrol prices;

A widespread nationalisation programme of trains, energy firms and broadband providers;

The effective abolition of academies and free schools, with all educational institutions bought back under local council control;

A milkshake tax, with a massive expansion of the sugar levy;

Abolition of local NHS Clinical Commissioning Groups;

A new Cabinet Minister for Women and new laws to make misogyny a hate crime, which one critic claimed would amount to outlawing wolf-whistling.

Considering I saw a tweet yesterday proclaiming that their 2017 manifesto gave them a huge poll boost, and that this one will deliver a Labour Government, I seriously doubt they will get any support from anyone with an IQ of more than 90. Clearly their plan is to control the masses and head for a 1970s Socialist 'utopia'. Mass emigration will surely follow?

[turbobloke]

Tyre Smoke said:

Considering I saw a tweet yesterday proclaiming that their 2017 manifesto gave them a huge poll boost, and that this one will deliver a Labour Government, I seriously doubt they will get any support from anyone with an IQ of more than 90. Clearly their plan is to control the masses and head for a 1970s Socialist 'utopia'. Mass emigration will surely follow?

It's a steeper hill to climb this time but IQ<90 is a lot of voters.

In 2019 there's this brexit thing, and according to polls (yes, I know, polls) brexit is by far the single most important factor in deciding how to vote (scoring 66%) almost twice the next closest priority (health). From the same type of source, only 8% see their 'usual' Party voting pattern as decisive. I posted Lord Ashcroft and YouGov details and links earlier but don't have access atm.