Poll: Election 2019
Total Members Polled: 1601
Discussion
unbiased said:
There's something likeable about him.
I can understand that when you listen to him. He does an LBC show and as you say he's likeable enough at face value in 30-60 minute chunks.You don't have to push too far or look too hard though to realise there isn't any substance there or that his friends and associations aren't pleasant.
We saw it with Neil last night and on his show you see it when anyone pushes him for detail or on something he doesn't agree with.
turbobloke said:
Leithen said:
9xxNick said:
The evidence of recent elections suggests it's the left that tend to be more involved. The Peterborough by-election's the most recent example, and Tower Hamlets also comes to mind.
The evidence of recent elections, suggest the subject is nothing more than a useful canard.b
hstewie said:
hstewie said: I can understand that when you listen to him. He does an LBC show and as you say he's likeable enough at face value in 30-60 minute chunks.
You don't have to push too far or look too hard though to realise there isn't any substance there or that his friends and associations aren't pleasant.
We saw it with Neil last night and on his show you see it when anyone pushes him for detail or on something he doesn't agree with.
I'm sure I've read an almost identical opinion recently. It was on the Jo Swinson thread.You don't have to push too far or look too hard though to realise there isn't any substance there or that his friends and associations aren't pleasant.
We saw it with Neil last night and on his show you see it when anyone pushes him for detail or on something he doesn't agree with.
hutchst said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I can understand that when you listen to him. He does an LBC show and as you say he's likeable enough at face value in 30-60 minute chunks.
You don't have to push too far or look too hard though to realise there isn't any substance there or that his friends and associations aren't pleasant.
We saw it with Neil last night and on his show you see it when anyone pushes him for detail or on something he doesn't agree with.
I'm sure I've read an almost identical opinion recently. It was on the Jo Swinson thread.You don't have to push too far or look too hard though to realise there isn't any substance there or that his friends and associations aren't pleasant.
We saw it with Neil last night and on his show you see it when anyone pushes him for detail or on something he doesn't agree with.
I'm guessing at some point he'll have to dismount and lose the oxygen (required at altitude) to get through the door at the polling station.
One has to wonder who he'll (or is it a she?) vote for given he has condemned both Corbyn and Johnson, Farage would never ever have be an option and Swinson has done nothing to give him any confidence in her policies so what's left is the Greens/SNP or Stay in Bed Instead, which is the PurpleMoonlight approach to elections.
All each and anyone of us has to remember is that we each have one vote, and one vote only (unless of course we are a student! 
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The only input any of us will have is when we go to the polling booth, and put down our X in the preferred box.
All we can ask of people is that they use their one vote as wisely as they can.
) The only input any of us will have is when we go to the polling booth, and put down our X in the preferred box.
All we can ask of people is that they use their one vote as wisely as they can.
Corbyn still pushing the NHS for sale line
Also revealing “cold hard evidence” in the form of a confidential report about brexit and NI by holding up some photocopy of something that nobody else has access to.
Corby “it’s there on page 45 look”
Everyone else “wtf”
Corby “look at page 8”
Also revealing “cold hard evidence” in the form of a confidential report about brexit and NI by holding up some photocopy of something that nobody else has access to.
Corby “it’s there on page 45 look”
Everyone else “wtf”
Corby “look at page 8”
Leithen said:
The evidence of recent elections, suggest the subject is nothing more than a useful canard.
It has a potentially significant impact, so complacency isn't appropriate. Surely all sides can agree on that?Senior Conservative Source said:
The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.
From a political party.That's literally bonkers.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Senior Conservative Source said:
The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.
From a political party.That's literally bonkers.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Senior Conservative Source said:
The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.
From a political party.That's literally bonkers.
That’s classic trump. Undermining the media and getting the truth direct from the conservatives. When’s Boris going to start a twitter feed.
9xxNick said:
Leithen said:
The evidence of recent elections, suggest the subject is nothing more than a useful canard.
It has a potentially significant impact, so complacency isn't appropriate. Surely all sides can agree on that?However, is there any evidence of complacency? I'd argue not. The Electoral Commission appears to be suitably independent and its integrity and diligence not in question.
Will there be attempted fraud? Yes of course. Indeed, the Commissions pages lists such past occurrences in fine detail.
Is there any reason for this to become a significant issue in this election? Other than it being a used as a pretty cheap campaigning issue, I would say no. Put another way, does anyone believe that through fraudulent means, a result will be altered? I simply don't see any genuine evidence of that.
But then genuine evidence of anything is in short supply at the moment...
Mort7 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Senior Conservative Source said:
The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.
From a political party.That's literally bonkers.
El stovey said:
Yeah having accountability in politics is tired. Nobody wants to see interviews where politicians are scrutinised.
That’s classic trump. Undermining the media and getting the truth direct from the conservatives. When’s Boris going to start a twitter feed.
Daft conclusion and analogy.That’s classic trump. Undermining the media and getting the truth direct from the conservatives. When’s Boris going to start a twitter feed.
He has swerved one interview ffs, his choice (Corbyn is the fool here)
Mort7 said:
I agree that that form of interview is pointless. The Andrew Marr interview being a shining example. Wise move by Boris. He has everything to lose and nothing to gain other than not being called "chicken". The car crash interview of Corbyn by Neil being all the proof you need.
How is it pointless?It exposes things such as Corbyn's repeated failure to apologise for anti-semitism in his party.
That seems the kind of thing that highlights exactly why they're a good thing.
They shine a light on the character of those who wish to be our leaders.
JagLover said:
Mort7 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Senior Conservative Source said:
The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.
From a political party.That's literally bonkers.
Each interview should be about giving the interviewee time to answer the questions their way (the public know what's going on with flimflam), talk for more than 2 seconds and thereby have the time to set out their policies and views. It's now about how smartass the interviewer and their research team are with inventing new 'have you stopped beating your wife' questions, how often the interviewer can interrupt to look like they're being tough, and how little time the interviewee gets to respond. Basically there's far too much focus on the interviewer hence the frequent mentions of Andrew Neil. He's far less important than the senior politicians he interviews, however good he may be.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Senior Conservative Source said:
The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.
From a political party.That's literally bonkers.
Marr was appalling, mainly because all he did was ask a question and within seconds was interrupting Johnson's response.
Neil has done much the same on all the four interviews he's done to date, he did it with Sturgeon, he did it with Corbyn, then Swinson and last night's grilling of Farage was no different to the previous three, the only difference is that Neil doesn't interrupt as often as Marr does.
You can sympathise with Johnson to a degree, he's witnessed 4 other interviewees get mullered.mauled (verbally) and left wondering whether they have any credibility left at all, and he's (Johnson) asked whether he'd like some of the same, why the hell would he?
If you get a choice as to whether you can escape a firing squad, most people when asked would likely say...
"thanks I will give at a swerve now you've asked".
don'tbesilly said:
The senior Conservative source was quite right though, just watch the Marr show from last Sunday.
Marr was appalling, mainly because all he did was ask a question and within seconds was interrupting Johnson's response.
Neil has done much the same on all the four interviews he's done to date, he did it with Sturgeon, he did it with Corbyn, then Swinson and last night's grilling of Farage was no different to the previous three, the only difference is that Neil doesn't interrupt as often as Marr does.
You can sympathise with Johnson to a degree, he's witnessed 4 other interviewees get mullered.mauled (verbally) and left wondering whether they have any credibility left at all, and he's (Johnson) asked whether he'd like some of the same, why the hell would he?
If you get a choice as to whether you can escape a firing squad, most people when asked would likely say...
"thanks I will give at a swerve now you've asked".
The Marr interview was a bad interview and I don't think Marr conducted himself well or came out of it looking good.Marr was appalling, mainly because all he did was ask a question and within seconds was interrupting Johnson's response.
Neil has done much the same on all the four interviews he's done to date, he did it with Sturgeon, he did it with Corbyn, then Swinson and last night's grilling of Farage was no different to the previous three, the only difference is that Neil doesn't interrupt as often as Marr does.
You can sympathise with Johnson to a degree, he's witnessed 4 other interviewees get mullered.mauled (verbally) and left wondering whether they have any credibility left at all, and he's (Johnson) asked whether he'd like some of the same, why the hell would he?
If you get a choice as to whether you can escape a firing squad, most people when asked would likely say...
"thanks I will give at a swerve now you've asked".
That is not the same as suggesting that the public are "fed up" of interviews.
Andrew Neil is tough but fair.
Of course I can sympathise with Johnson for not wanting to be made to look like an untrustworthy liar with no credibility on national television.
But I can also call him a coward for knowing that is exactly what he would look like and choosing to duck the interview.
The inside story of the back ground feed for Boris in the Marr interview.
https://twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/1201488...
https://twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/1201488...
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